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yes like i'm using them i stack 2squad and manual strike but it seems you loose 1 more plane too often when rangers strike 5/6 saipan i goes 4/6 torpedos i think the reason is survivability of tops of saipan it also can depend how i like to play not saying that saipan is bad bad it's different and maybe for me it's bad and some other can see it differently...

no no this ship is great imo just few things make this cv way harder than other cvs. like hangar capasity 48 i can deal with this just dont lose too many planes that's it but those squad size is what makes it bad imo and ammo capasity from fighters is horrible they dont perform not near as other tier 7 cvs atm i dont want saipan would be overpower i just want it would perform good as at other tier 7 cvs and really i have done 172k dmg done with saipan but at the same time my record 200k is ranger and when you get this kind of score at saipan you have done way more than ranger imo

hell yeah torpedos hit way easyer then... and if you think like this 2x 3torpedo you will lose like 1plane with both set of torpedo squad so you are 4/6 torpedos that can hit when normal setup against North caroline it's 5/6 torpedo so you lose alot dps and they also fload bad as jpns torpedos what happend?

point is if ranger can perform better against shokaku why we get so bad premium cv then it wasn't that cheap at all... it should be more balanced to other tier 7 cvs imo the air supremacy not make big different at all but when you use it with ranger it really does

Well if we think saipan got 2x 3torpedos = 6torpedo why they have to be seperate? then 2x 3or 4 with AS fighters is same as 6/8 so why they have to be so wierdo squad size? and for bomb 9bombs is great but it's not that great imo because you cant burn nobodoy like other cvs with 2 squad bombers

why saipan can't have 6plane squad like every other us cvs?

so that means Saipan really got 231dps with 3 plane and 308 with 4plane vs shokaku 308 with 4 and 385 with 5.. ETC.. ETC... so how many second takes to kill there all different fighter situations per 1 squad saipan vs shokaku 8.623 vs 7.441// 6.467vs 5.593 // 9.056 vs 7.814 // 6.792vs 6.251 lexi vs saipan 5.536 vs 7.359 // 4.715 vs 5.519 // 5.814 vs 7.727 // 4.983 vs 5.795 lexi vs shokaku 4.811vs 5.519 // 4.124 vs 4.415 //5.053 vs 5.795 // 4.331 vs 4.636 Ranger vs shokaku 6vs4 5.354 7vs4 4.589 // 6vs5 5.623 // 7vs5 4.820 so if this is correct that doesn't make any sense why you want less bad planes than more better? as you can see even with ranger performs better against shokaku and it have low tier planes. so can any1 explain me why saipans fighters are kinda shitty.. and they should be tier9 planes

what do you guys think? i think those saipan fighters need just a little buff or atleast bit more ammonations

4cvs ruins battle.. simple as that there is way too many planes... and now i'm talking about other than cv playing view.. let's think 4 lexington's with every 1 have bombers and torpedos only the game is ruined... only cause you can stack planes with your teamate cv or you can even spread all that damage between all over the map and nobody is happy and we allways have to read "op cv op cv" seriously the games where is only 1cv at side it's not that op anymore.. since there cant come battle without other cv. and other thing is when you play as cv is way more fun to see who better cv player and won the battle. if there is 4cvs even with all same loadout it's pretty mutch hope and hope you dont get some retard cv player with you and so many matches with 4cv goes like you have to play with 2cv by yourself cause your teamate cv feed all his planes like some retard.

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i agree that. my only problem is when i play with saipan and dont get me wrong i like saipan but the fighters just have too small ammo capasity if you kill first cv planes you dont have ammo's for 2nd cv planes and that's sad they get free plane kills

so you pretty mutch tell you dont play as CV

i can only say that. when tier 7 or bigger have 2cv per side it's almost allways "rushing to kill other side cv at the start" it's not strategy at all after you guys killed first cv the game is pretty mutch won because 1 cv cant do mutch against 2. other thing is when you play as Saipan if the game has 4 cvs you fighters are pretty useless cause their ammo's end too early you cant even fight against them. they really should add bit more ammonations for saipan fighters.... how bad is the battle after 2cvs have killed otherside 2 cv and then they can just kill every1 without even need care anything anymore... 1vs1 Cv games is way way more balanced

Figther barrage seriously? why it's ridiculous ability my record is 36plane kill with 1 squad of 7 figther lol :O and why we have this ridicouls and stupid ability? not realistic at all

uhm? if my record plane drops is 36planes with single 7plane squad barrage. it's not like i dont want to learn to use i'm using it in every game but still this thing ruins things... it's not like bombs and torpedo planes manual drop that's good thing in the game but that fighter barrage imo just loo ridiculous how you can kill that many planes so fast it's just big joke in the game and every match i lol'd only because this ridiculous ability lol. no body can say this thing is good thing in the game or he only want it because it's so freaking overpowered dps. this is not skill require i think it's even more chalenging to kill planes without it...

play usa tier tech tree ships or jpns saipan atm suck

you dont understand good cv player can play well at saipan but he will play even better with ranger for example so why he should use saipan if it's so bad.? saipan is only a big joke on game atm

what i can say about saipan is only i'm really disappointed and i just only can think why i waste my moneys to that shitty.. really ranger is best t7 atm saipan is not even scale you can kill multiple crapcv players cause you have more experience but this ship only sucks.

Are you serious why the better player dont just play better cv like ranger is atm best t7 cv....

this ship sucks... --.-- i can play so mutch better as ranger and do seriously more damage why we get so bad premium carrier.. those squads sizes is so wierd and not even make good enought damage at all this what pretty waste of money premium ship.. comparing hangar size 4x vs 72 and then you got only 2x 3torpedos that's not enought because you can try to strike even bb and you lost most of your Tb's and you dont have many of planes in hangar capasity what's the whole points is whole Saipan if it's way worse than normal tier cvs.. really prefer to get atleast 6plane squad torpedo like other us cvs. not like this crap3x 2squad lol...

in higher tiers i dont see that manual torpedo dropping is that easy 7-8-9-10 ppl have learn to avoid most of them and it require lots of luck and good skill what you have learned by playing hundreds and hundreds games.. it's pure luck that you get all your torpedos hit at same time higher tiers

well atm it doesn't look that good at all again we have to choose between "attack" or "defense" load outs.. Why? how hard is make same load out between both jpns and us carriers.. this ship look wierd imo eather 2x set of 3 torpedos so it's 6 torpedo... agains jpns 8 what's good is this ? next thing 2x set of 3 fighters uhm vs 4-7 fighters it doesnt matter you get t9 fighters if you cant win 1vs1 battle.. you have to have lead then you can win that click battle strafing/barrage is thing what should be removed from whole game it's not realistic that 1 squad can kill 36planes with 1 barrage it's horrible abilty an should make differently how you need skill.. imo at papers and numbers saipan looks atm really bad not even ship that i see my mind very good ... 1. 3set of 3 torpedos could be nice then it's against 2-2-2 or-3-1-1 setups 2. 2set of 4 fighters should be correct value.. 3. again i'm really disapointed to see why us carrier players have to choose between attack or defend.. why there cant be load out for us cvs that have both like jpns cvs like 2-2-2 /3-1-1 those setups you can allways do both when i look at 3-0-1 setup at saipan i only get disapointed because same story why jpns cv gets Way better load outs than us cvs what's your answer for this it's not fair that us got allways bad load outs they wasn't that bad at WW2 that game want show us. 4. make same load outs of any cvs only chance the numbers of planes and squads... it's not that hard really !

well imo it's bad balance because the game force you to attack to shokaku with attack setup lexi other wise shokaku kills your planes... and eather way remove fighters from shokaku's attack setup or give fighters for us attack setup aswell "that's balance" atm i just prefer nail shokaku fast as you can. it's still risky that shokaku comes with fighters and kill your planes.. really hope they dont fail saipan

indeed you skills looks almost same as my except i got "basics of survivability /situation awareness And expert rear gunner skills more tho this

exactly and with 2 squad of fighters you get double change to hit barrage and 1 can kill like 4-5 of lexi's planes then you use another and you cant avoid them because they can just fly behind you planes and use barrages easy hit planes they dont kill all planes like never in this situation but you end up with 2-3 planes each squads and you wont do good enought dmg anymore or might even miss everything