Gojuadorai

no you have a progression : jolly -> jolly2 (which is a token) -> ship x (jolly 2 gets taken) -> jolly 2 -> ship y (jolly 2 taken) and so on unclear is who it will be handeled if you skip a season in terms of which ship you get

quick reminder for all the people who havnt seen it pleas post your constructive feedback here : http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/53102-events-r-vs-gnb/#topmost

well i would rather see the gun choice be no progression issue but rather a preference issue. but handling of the mogami shows they do not like this choice.

that starts to get confusing hows th progression for players that did not do rank 1 every season? will the just lag behind the progression? or will the ships be only availible for 2x seasons and then exchanged for the new reward? or will you be able to choose?

it is pretty certain it will uncertain if it will have the gun upgrade to its planed setup but probable it will have the upgrade to 3x2 bismarck guns

ends 8th 15kk is only there so it runs till 8th and is not supposed to be reached

well about the lowest denominator. thats why i said the posibility to choose from rewards was a good thing about the event. (with multiple rewards you diminish the problem to a degree that is negelectable) but what would be diffrent with a "main prize" , either aditional in the "secret" as people assumed or just as a 800-1000 diamond prize? you just have more happy players, happy players who love the game will spend money more easily, therefore compensating for the "loss" wg makes giving away free stuff. (debateable size of effects but not a unreasonable assumption) the mistake i and a lot of people made to assume is that such a thing exsists. (i too assumed the flags might have some small propertys after seen the uber flag NA recived, which was another disapointment) i still dont think it was unreasonable to think so. i have to agree to that with the slight correction: The important thing is beeing able to identify which event is worth your time. if i could have known what i know now, i now would not be dissapointed.

well thats another thing you cant please everyone. but pleasing the most players possible is surely not that of a unreal target. as i see it the only player really happy right now are the collectors cause to them every ship "is worth the same" as they need every ship for a complete collection, and they got 3 of them! but there are ways to know what the majority wants. like asking them, or more subtle ways like payingt atention to what whings are desired in general by player base. (have you read a lot of posts where people dreamed if only the could have tha katori they would be so happy?) im pretty confident most of the players posting regularly on the forums could have come up with a realistic reward (or set of rewards to choose from cause that was actuallly one of the improvements) which would have pleased 80-90% of the players

i dont want to spawn a discussion here cause i have intended this topic purely for easy to acces feedback, but i have to coment this. i have had the same thought and as initially happy i was when i heard that were finaly getting something big first, as sad i am now we got it first.

ofc youre right and i know that but let them tell me "the value distributed was substantial" (when the things they distribute cost them nothing not even missed profits cause nearly no one would have paid for anything they gave away) is a slap in the face of all the players the subtext is "we decide what you have to like and what not" [edit] but then again giving the comunity stuff they want for free is costly because probability is high they would have paid for it and i guess this is the reason why they decided to not give us something we realy want like in the kamikaze event.

thats a bad joke like i pointed out earlier those "values" used to calculate the "worth" of the rewards are a bad measure for what the prizes are worth to the players a lot of players would have traded all the prizes for a ship they actually want. the value of something to a player is NOT the value of dubloons you decide to stick on that item. [edit] so if you argue with the values you asigned why not let me trade the tachibana+katori+smit+100gnb camos for a gremi you would make a profit.

i fixed that for you

shooting at cruiser yes battling with a colorado? good luck there. but the real problem why i see the new mexico in the last spot is that it is slow AND its dispersion at range is horrible you need to get close reallly close fo terms of t7 the colorado is only slow.

well as recent buffs have shown the sigma of dispersion(not shown in client, distribution probability over the impact elypsoid) is was more important for accuuracy than the max possible dispersion so the numbers shown in the client basically tell you nothing about how accurate a ship really is. for example if you had a ship with a 1000m max dispersion you would not really care when 9 of 10 shots land within 10m of the targeted point?

that now is so WRONG the NCA is not the most accurate BB its so accurate its laughable i get 2x-3x citadels at 12km+ on cruisers nearly every game.....

was thinking the same if you see a lot of cv's then i would actually prefer the colorado

well you need to make some assumptions to hold that. only if those are true you can make the statement and i guess for most of the players those arent true. - you need to want the prizes - you need to be willing to play for them - they need to be offered only for the said prices (not beeing availible at chaeper prices) - the prices need to be "fair/reasonable" (if you tag a 6000000 dubloones price at an item that is not availible for dublooons that item is not worth thousands of €) maybe some more i just now cant think of, your monetary comparison as you stated here(and in the other topic) is not as definite as you might see it

for all us landrats who do not carry around the complete naval history of the world in our heads .... ....what ship is this ? (maybe provide a link )

if you include the new mex and warspite you should have included the fuso. 12 guns is nothung to laugh at im trying the nagato but am unsure if to set her up allsecondaris (16p cap) or alll mainguns/survivability. depending on results ill will switch back to the fuso cause T7 cruisers still cant take the 12 shellls from a fuso.

they do not the kamikaze r was a model they already had, they just had to slap on as camo which a skilled employe will have ready in a day max. and everybody was fine with it. (i dare to say everyone was even pretty happy about the ship) for example: they just could have taken the regular t4 german bb slap prem status and a camo on it done nearly everbody would have been crazy happy about it. and it would even have sevred the purpose to hype the new tech tree which is in WG marketing intrest. [edit] as for the katori and smith only the smith is new. (katori was in game in alpha or beta ) and the problem why they are not regarded as propper rewards is the fact that nothing below tier 4-5 is worth playing other than just for the reason to do something else than usual....

well i dont want to raise a discussion here i just want to remark that is debateable. just imagine it yould have been like the kamikaze event "have x diamonds get reward y" or any other kind of reward tied to a msssion and or amout of diamonds collected there is a multitude of posibilllities that it is not simply for everyone (the global missions ounlocked sitll have to be done to get the "reward part") to the part why i get annoyed is not the message itself but the subtext. for example: yeah weve seen you get excited, but we have chosen to ignore it instead of informing you to not expect something huge, were REALLY SRY for that BELIVE US were SO SORRY.....

haha i dont mind im in an economics masters programm. and my argument was theoretical just to show that the extra time spend on grinding has some worth (and since im some kind of self employed it was less theoretical than you might think because i def. had the posibility to do so)

oh really we are gready because we know oure time is worth something ? had i spend the entire time working i invested to grind (extra time i would not have spend gaming normaly) i would have been able to buy most of the comercialy availible premium ships. (combined! not single if that is unclear) so i dont see why im greedy when i expect a nice mid tier prem ship for the effort.

actually i hope it will be a while, because im not able to do a grind feast again soon (i just cant stomach it) and if prizes are better related to effort i would be sad/angry i did it last time and cant bring me to do it this time....

here: Ph3lan, on 02 June 2016 - 12:13 PM, said: Hey guys! Let me start with a short explanation of our intentions behind the Grand Naval Battles. As you guys probably know this event is very similar to Project R, however for this event we wanted to incorporate all the feedback we received from you guys and basically tailor the event to the wishes of the EU region.Instead of focusing too much on the global goals we wanted to give you more freedom in how you could use your diamonds with your personal mission. The global milestones were still a great incentive for the whole EU community to work towards a common goal and the rewards were nothing to scoff at, but they were not the main focus this time around. Despite our best intentions we might have raised your hopes a bit too high with secret reward at the end without giving any indication of how big it actually was. You could say that the personal missions were the cake and the global goals were the icing. Maybe we could have emphasized this idea a bit more in our communications, this is a lesson learned for the future. Looking back I can see why you guys might have thought that there is a premium ship waiting there, however our intention was to give you an opportunity to get several exclusive premium ships in the personal missions (alongside some cool physical prizes and a lot smaller in-game rewards). Another thing we should have communicated clearer is the structure of the event. While we stated in the forums that one player can achieve a maximum of 1000 (except if they won on contributor activities) and that we will have 4 sets of weekly mission, this might be not as clear for players only browsing the website. This is another thing we have to work on for our next event. The event may not be perfect but I would like to believe that it is better than the last and that even despite the hiccups towards the end you guys are having a blast taking part and spending your diamonds. We will try to hammer out even more of the problems for the next event and while it may never be perfect we will always make an effort to make it better than the last one! [edit] read it several times! i get more annoyed every time i read it