Gojuadorai

if you mean a person picking it just because warspites stock secondaries are good, has no brain youre right. picking something without puting thought into it is dumb. i kinda give you a quick reasoning. what you loose if you choose main guns mod over secondaries mod? yes only 15% range and acc! what you gain? better main guns! whats the strongest part of the warspite? yes soure right the main guns!!! what you loose not picking 5th row skill? 15% secondaries acc. what do you gain? 5 points into really strong skills you do not have yet ... all those sacrifices for a gain you can utilize every now and then and in most cases the stock secs would have done a similar job.... [edit] ofc you can play through ranks T6 with a secondaries warspite its just not the optimal build...

for some for others not, if you catch my drift no its not the seconaries are a nice bonus but never the main argument .... if you want to tryhard play the 100% best setup the main bat mod 1 will always beat the secondaries and below tier 7 the manual fire cap skill is also beaten by better skills

well the only ships im tempted to try it are the khab uda

none of them. play the FUSO (if you cant play either warspite or bayern but no shitty secondaries build)

you expect us to do that for a tiny reward? cant you fix it without having every one send in a screenshoot?

i finished rank 1 last season with about 58% if i remember correctly. thats huge if you consider that both teams are made up of pretty good players only in thge higher ranks. and thats pobably becaue you feel less impact siply because most other players are beter that the average randombattle joe after you reach a "high" rank (lets say 10+, and ofc there are some potatoes too but way less than in random games)

how about is was a line that like everybody and their parents and grandprarents waited for since release of the game?

yes so either youre lucky and make 12 fast... or youre unlucky and get to drop to 15 or you wait a week and start then...

just checked... if you made rank 1 youre gona start at 13 with 15 and 12 beeing irrevokeable... potentialy frustrating start incoming...

More enjoyable - lots of improvements esp interface and maps - more ships (that are worth playing aka fun) - the improvements outweigh the screwups atm

in certain limits yes youre right. i just made the case cause it was applying to the NCA thatw as discused here.

i understand your concern about the player base. but balancing for the average will lead to some ships beeing redicolusly OP in hands of above average (dont even need to be top) players. which game will attract more players? the one known for having ridicolus ships that just stomp others or the one known for having some ships that arent so great? (*please note this is simplified but i trust in everyone to get the point) [edit] to make it clear i count on the 2nd one to get more atention from everyone but those who look for a game where they can sealclub all the time.

well as harsh as it may sound average player shouldnt be involved in any balancing matters thats why i alwas talk about balancing for the top 20-15%. because this statement might spark some nasty coments, i want give a quick reasoning in for of a question, which game you know, that was balanced for the avreage player, ever had a untroubled and healthy meta?

and thats just cause of players that dont know how to play the game. NCA is the best (or one of the best depending on situation) T8 bbs in the game. like fnord said it is played in competetive evironement for a reason.

ofc but with a bit of experiance that can be keept minimal you want to angle against the closer ship anyway so doging wont differ much form your nartural path not saying it has no drawbacks but calling a ship bad because this situation can occur now is beyond exaggeration

seriously whats the big deal theres 1x more bb with torps and someone wants make me belive a colo cant brawl any more cause you couldnt doge those torps in a ship that has a sper small turning circle and realy good torp protection? to hit a colorad thats competent the gneisenau needs to get REALLY close.

ive posted no pictures? so youre arguning because of a two games experiance? also i am arguing the "teamplay scores" reflect poorly how you did help your team.

what a boatload of nonsense.... you cant measure teamplay like that. well i really awaited the economy change but yet ive to see my fears became reality WG implemented a system that reawrds what they deem optimal play and punish the rest. what a shame another chance to make the game even better gone horribly wrong

well while im a fan of balancing things for high skill players im not a fan of balancing for a tournament meta.

spend 155k prob runing 4x prem consumeables + 22k camo?

i dont like the new smoke at all! (while i was an avdocat of letting them keep a modified smoke) i think the new smoke still promotes a kind of gameplay thatsis boring or frustrating in the worst case. siting stationary in a smoke screen is not good for either the player siting there nor the playewr shooting at him. i would like to see the smoke to go into a diffrent direction spawning quicker so a ship can go 2/3rds speed in it without getting detected but a stay time thats realy short. this way it wouldnt be rewarding to slow down and sit to fire yout of it, but it would alow you to make a 180° turn without showing broadside to a BB. that would give british CLs the advantage to play agressively without the feat to get blasted out of the water when they have to switch to retreat.

the split may come before ranked or was there any word on that?

well i get your point, but whats the alternative? if every BB line was the same as it was historicaly then they would all play the same shooting at long ranges. i rather have the diverse lines with the jap "sniper" and the german "brawlers". i think WG is doing a reasonably good job at translating the historic designs into a role that not historical but most fitting for the design. (dont want to sound like a WG fanboy here cause they also screw up on things) as for the long surviving BB youre right they can be, my point just was to do that it needs a good player that knows when he can and when he cant. playing against such a player might seem "unfair" at times but that doesnt mean its a situation that is "default"/no player decision involved. well im really keen to see how the economy changes play out for the meta. guess when that is live for some weeks well see what to change next to get an active meta

either youre exagerating verry verry much or were playing diffrent games. il just state my experiance but i sense were not getting on the same page here. a good BB player will stay at range and try soften up a flank and charge when it is reaonable (in his favor due to succesful softening or othe reasons) ofc the BB is a force if the battle situation is in his favor and it should be. charging in a situation thats not in your favor will end up in your death verry verry quickly, thertes no magical imunity like youre sugesting. were somewhat on the same page here but your view seems to be quite heavly skewd by historic realities. i also dont like all the black and white painting latley used in the forums. the posting here has degenerated to posting absolute truths....

well i think youre a bit wrong there. if you want a german BB the bismack offers a better choice. secondaries+hydro are way more usefull in high tier ranked than the torps because you rarely get close to anything but a benson maybe (and this guy wont eat one of your torps i gurantee that) the reall intresting question is how many cvs yloull see if you see them often enough i think the NCA offers a even better package.