Gojuadorai

well guess its not for everyone: Icon Name Tier Type Nation Battles ▼ WR Dmg XP K/D Sh☠ Pl☠ Srv MBH TH WTR Kirov 5 CA/CL USSR 53 62.26% 33,033 899 1.4 1.0 0.5 32% 31% 15% 1,236 i know opinions on the kirov are divided and i havnt played it with the current T5 matchmaking but i always had my fun with it

youre amazing me in every topic.... kirov and kberg are super strong ships on their tier.

well i just thought atlanta<->flint ... so it might get to be the "be rank 1 7x" ship

well i guess its nice to see soem fixes&buffs on the baguettes. i still think they wont be much fun their hull design is just not working without something radical how about soem consumeable that makes the gun reload faster for 2-3 cycles? or something else. atm the seem to be just a wiered crossover thats not working. T0byJug, on 05 April 2017 - 01:36 PM, said: Its worse than that.. Find a low health ship 1 or 2 shots will kill. Enemy Nor problem that little paski DD can still be seen from the moon after he has killed his target. youre welcome to voice your concerns in my topic about it! the more the better!

while i agree with you on some parts i feel like you overlook some parts. il try to illustrate it a bit on an example using the Zao. (using extremes is intended to just show the points most clearly not as an absolute) An Zao sitting at max range trying to stealthfire the whole game was ineffective. The zao makes an poor frontline DD supporter, because aof long relaod glacial turret traverse etc. It is and was best played in a 2nd line position making use of its verry high DMG potential. its exactly this forward position that is hurt the most by the change! not the longrange stealth capable position because at that range even if spoted youre not get hit much (and ofc you wont hit much as well) there lies the problem by not beeing able to claim the same forward position youre sorced to either go full YOLO, which is a bad choice, or hang back further playing the same as the stealthfiring scrubs (which is also a bad choice).

you again fail to graps the issue i dont know even where to stat and honestly i cant be bothered any more since you show no intest in even understanding why people dislike the change.

god damn i will try to explain it to you in the ,most simple words i can find so you maybe understand the problem: its not about stealth firing, most people here do not care about is SF is in the game or not (including me), its about the consequences of WG's "solution" to remove it that have various non trivial effects on gameplay that are mostly negativ.

and again a post about stealthfiring which tis topic is not about.... if you post here atleast take the time to read whats discussed here

ThinderChief, on 04 April 2017 - 12:48 PM, said: Man, it takes a lot to be like you and i'm making sure it doesn't affect me in any way any time soon. you mean several university degrees, money and a wife ?

it does mean NEVER as long as youre playing THIS game, practically as well as theoretically.

hes not talking about drag .... you should work on your reading comprehension skills. it just the fuze (which they made as low as they could) which is 0.001s face it youre using the wrong equations....

german DD's dont count they got an artificialy large bloom as a "temporary fix" till the changes are implemented.

wrong they will travel : 800 m/s *0.001s = 0.8m which is 80cm

point is HE cant ever overpenetrate so even if you lable it theoreticaly its still wrong in all cases

hehe o yeah ofc, havnt thought of that, its occuring not that rarely but well this situation got WORSE for the DD/CA's ? (dont have all the ships in my head which ship you had in mind now has less detectin in that situation than before?)

well i havnt come accros this, might be youre right but i think its probably a rare circumstance cause else i guess i would have noticed it by now (as opposed tho the negative effcts which i have come across often by now)

prove me there is no unicorn on the dark side of the moon.... if youre right go figure out akizukis HE fuse times and show me that thay actualy can overpen something? [edit] and then show that it wasnt possible without IFHE, that would also be needed to prove your statement

the only precise thing about it is that it is 100% wrong

i agree, and imho its not a good thing because this steals away smoke used by good players to soupport their team (because of timer and charges). This makes the game more egocentric and less team oriented, which isnt exactly what wows needs.

im gona edit into quot in color for the last point open water stealfiring could have simply been removed by implementing a check: - is the ship shooting at something inside its seathlth window? - if yes check line of sight (already doen by the terrain indicator so totaly possible) - if again yes forced detection by target if no old bloom ofc this goes agains verry simple game mechanics but it should not be a large issue since only experianced players will interact that way/care about it.

Zen71_sniper, on 04 April 2017 - 09:25 AM, said: I think you are wasting your time. There is a lots of guys who like "shooting at ships" without wanting to employ any tactics or any advanced gameplay.... Unfortunately, WG is trying to please them as majority of them are in BB population which is 40%. to be fair i dont like it that the balance changes are always reasoned with "whining BB's", i play alot of BB#s myseld (2nd most played after CA and closing) but i never asked for a buff etc.... i belive theres a great deal of BB captains that also did not complain, who have to suffer from this anti BB sentiment. Zen71_sniper, on 04 April 2017 - 09:25 AM, said: I think we are all fighting a loosing battle in order to keep the game anything but basic aim and shoot.... yes thats the same thing i fear too, i like this game because of its nt obvious strategic deeph, a part of it died with the patch.

ofc i got burned by them but most of the time they eitehr used smoke an island or i could see them, rest of the time it was mostly my fault for playing to passive instead of pushing. and you forget to ask how many games were won due those ships SF'ing? if your taget sits not back but were pushing, the SF'ing ship gets pushed to a position where hes useless for quite some time... people just forget to talk about the strategic drawbacks and stuff... but i reall dont want to talk any more(not more than needed) about SF because thats not the point why i feel the game has gotten worse and i love this game i dont want to see it get worse. yeah ofc it was a indirect buff to jap DD's, but its not the playstyle favored by lots of people and why force the alternatives (outside of SN DD's) to adopt a playstyle that is not liked by anyone but INJ pilots?

sry thats a myth in my nearly 7,5k games i have not seen a meaningfull ammount of games where SF was used at all and even more rarely to a good advantage SF was a non-issue blamed by bad players for their losses. i dont mind having it gone since i never used it. but not at the price of scrwing overall gameplay hard.

Nope, if you think that you havnt read it propperly. its about if you adapt the gameplay becomes more shallow and you need to be way more passive. (which means dull booring, long range camping instead of foraward positions, no dd knife fights if other ships are arround in some cases etc... all the things that mate the game thrillng and fun in some boats) ITs about the gamplay beeing worse due to the changes.....