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They should also stop pumping out more and more OP BB's like there is no tomorrow as well.

The only thing i can see working with the fairly small playerbase we have, is some sort of "soft" skillbased MM. What i mean by that is that MM tries to put equal amount of semi equally skilled players pr team. I tried a thing that checked players stats in your games a while back, and most games (not all) there was me (purple 60%+ WR) and the rest of my team mates (red 45%+- WR). The enemy team though often had 3-4 players with similar stats to mine. With that info you can basically predict the outcome of that game. Its much harder for me to carry than the enemy with basically 3-4 of me. Basically what i'm trying to get at is that it should not be hard for MM to put 2-4 good players on each team and fill the rest with avg. players. We already have stat tracking so it can't be very hard. If there are no players with (60%+ WR) then MM would go on as normal. Kinda like a "soft" skillbased MM. Hopefully someone will understand where i'm trying to get at here

Ofc the ships are WIP, but i agree with you. Can't say WG is doing a good job keeping us interested in the line atm. I was really hyped about the split, but after seeing the stats so far, i'm afraid those ships are going to rust in port. WG releases ships that are stronger and stronger lately, but only if they are called BB's or premiums. Because they know people like their big battleships to be idiot proof so little Jimmy can do just as well, if not better than skilled players thanks to RNG, citadel removal, buffed AA etc. Even if the new USN CL's are fun to play and perform ok, this game have so many issues these days (mainly BB related) that its hard to stay interested. Lately ive started up the client, and just went "nah" and went on to doing something else instead. The game have become so RNG based and its not fun anymore. Left click, close your eyes and wait for the dice to give you a number. That is what it feels like. And to have another ship line dependent on the enemy BB's RNG for survival is just another nail in the coffin imo. Sadly. I'm hoping the split will spark some interest again though. Really hope.

Buff BBs. BUFF BBs? Are you really that bad of a player that you cant point and click? OP you are drunk. Go home.

That would be very interesting for the Cleveland actually. Having flat-ish arcs with the HE and the floaty arcs with AP. That would definitively give Cleveland an interesting different flavor. Not liking the copy paste Cleveland you have in T8 testing now though. Looks terrible with 14.6km range and super floaty shells against T10's. Comparing the Colombia(Cleveland at T8) to RN CL's, you lose so much just for that HE. RN CL's gets heal, smoke, great maneuverability, good AA, great torpedoes and hydro to help them out. For all that you trade HE but you get better autobounce angles for the AP. Infact the radar you get is not even worth it. As it looks now you are probably better just off playing RN CL's with radar and you will get a heal next to it. You can probably tell i'm not very impressed with the USN cruiser split so far. If they release them like that i think the USN CL line will very be nice to play against(easy dmg and kills), but i would probably sell every single one myself. Same goes for the CA's up to the Buffalo.

From what ive seen and read its more like: Salt Lake City (T6 Pensacola) Meh Pittsburgh (T8 Baltimore) Meh Columbia (T8 Cleveland) Meh Buffalo (new T9) Ok This and the fact that you will see way more T9 and T10 ships than T8 ships until WG does something about T8 MM. (Which at this point is close to unplayable)

Dude. Never ever quit that. In my 400+? battles in the Belfast(dont blame me, I was grinding free xp for the MO) you where the only one taking pop shots at me in the smoke. That is why complimented you ;). Gj and GG

You got nerfed aswel, Cro. Its not just me! :D

In my case it only takes. Hell. Even launch 10 torps perfectly on a GKF with the Gearing and ofc its one GIANT A$$ FEKKING perfect gap for the guy. Man. I swear @MrConway nerfed me.

Well. I had a Baltimore park FULL broadside 9km away from me that game. Full salvo into hes side at the waterline and 3 shells hit. All 3 over pens. Next salvo the idiot keep sitting there. Same deal but 2 overpens. Idk. Did not use to be like this. Whatever WG did i cant play BB's at all anymore. Which is not a bad thing i guess :)

lol

Funny. I get crap RNG with this ship after the patch. 144 shells fired and 22 hits. YEY! Most overpens aswell.. YEY. FDG have better hitratio at this point. Edit: Game after in FDG. 140 shells. 55 hits. I thought USN BB's where supposed to be more accurate than KM BB. Not the case apparently.

Again why would I have trouble? WTF are you talking about? I mostly play DD's and Cruisers. Spend most of my games in and around caps. That is a bit beside the point though. There is a big difference between PA DW torps and these. e.i speed and range. And yes, you should worry about the Asashio as a BB player. If you play BB's correctly that is. I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you do. If one team has an Asashio with them and the other don't, the team without the Asashio is going to lack BB support, and what happens to cruisers and DD's when there is no BB support? They die very quickly. This ship is going to be cancer no matter how you look at it. And i hate passive BB players, that is why i think this ship is VERY bad for gameplay.

What? why would i fear a DD shooting torps at my bow? Especially since i rarely play BB's anymore. But you seem to completely neglect the fact that this DD only punish BB player that try to be useful, not the "special" players that stay on the blueline. DW torps that shut down any BB push is never good. It completely stops any BB from moving forward, and we really don't need that these days. BB's do not need another reason to hang back.

Its because she is not fine. No matter how much i would like to make BB players cry, this ship will straight up punish the wrong BB players.

Next BS you will spit out will be that Asashio takes alot of skill to play right?

So if that is elitist lets ask the 10 battles DD experts what they think. Cuz they deserve to be called experienced aswell.

Oh yes! Game is rigged Life is rigged Everything is rigged man! On a more serious note though. Some games feel kinda rigged. When the team is doing everything they can to lose, and you solo carry them to almost victory, then the last DD on the team detonates and game over. Happens

I regard it as a counter since its very consistant and reliable. They can move in the smoke yes, still easy to hit if you know how to. Regardless. WG should really do something with ships like Saipan and Belfast.

Spotterplanes are not rare at all. Best counter to the Belfast. I was not saying Saipan should get nerfed to ruins. But tweeks to her (and Belfast) are very much needed.

Belfast also has her counters. Does not make her fine. Still OP. The no penalty strafing from Saipans is just cancer imo.

All fine and dandy, but its rewards we are talking about, not WR. Rewards for PTFO. Like you do when you wanna get better WR. Better WR is not a reward.

It does. But who cares about WR in this game anymore? Game is turning into RNG sim for casuals anyways. Which is fine btw, but tryhards like myself are playing less and less since skill is not rewarded.

But its NOTHING compared to dmg farming. When i play DD's for teamplay i usually end up at the middle of the leaderboard on the winning team with a loss in credits. If i however play like an Ahole and dmg farm all game, and don't care about winning or losing i earn loads of credits and top the scoreboard. Yes, you get some rewards for capping. And a tiny, tiny chunk XP for spotting, but its nothing compared to dmg farming. So why would "casual" players then play the objective when doing the wrong thing gives much greater rewards? Thats the problem.