Shirakami_Kon

If something remotely similar to that happens my guess it's that the only thing they are going to allow it's that you can only have a limited amount of options for each ship (the rest of non premium ships of that class) and you can't choose your own names for the ships.

Kind of controversial with all the arguments that could be somewhat brought about balance with this, but yes... I understand that Tirpitz has torps and that 7 km secondary range like Bismarck would be too much, but I don't really think that Tirpitz with the usual 5 km range of secondarieswould be that broken. Sure, makes a secondary build more viable (as it should be) and you have torps (OMG, BROKEEEEEEEN RUN AWAAAY!), but to actually hit something with Tirpitz torps you have to get really close regardless, even if you launch your torps at the max 6 km range your opponent must be a special type of potato to get hit by that if it's not an ambush with an island and you're somehow undetected the whole time (good luck with that). I don't bother with the torps until I get at less than 4 or even 3 km, and even then if I get that close I rush any ship, Tirpitz could have 2 km torps for that matter and would still work exactly as now for me. So I don't see why having at least usable secondaries (in terms on range) would be that broken. I don't see why a secondary build equal to all other non german BBs in range would make Tirpitz that more OP. Maybe people think that if that happened Tirpitz with more secondary range will push more for the bit extra damage they could get from the secondaries and take advantadge of the thread of the torps, but yeah... BBs pushing, what joke, right?

If it's not T8+ if a CV alone wrecks you most of the time it's your own fault. And if it's the more rare scenario of a good CV player behind it, well props to that guy/girl. - There's people that can't even stand how the controls of squadron work and can't even handle a basic low tier CV and lose the interest in those ships even before actually start playing those ships. - Unless end game if you are one of the last ships alive it's your fauld if a CV can strike you. Just by staying close to other teammates you can destroy most of the planes and make CV lose a lot of damage potential of he strike or a cruiser can just use defensive AA and just make any CV attack and absurdly bad drop. - High tier CVs are powerful, sure. So is the AA, making that at those tiers CV have to worry not only of cruisers with defensive AA but even BBs that will smack down they're planes just by daring to fly near them for more that just the necessary time, so even if CVs can get to drop some torps/bombs at higher tiers you also should know how to deal with that most of the time too. But oh well, now that we have SI for free, for 4 points we can deny any sort of flanking we have to get rid the last reasons that force us to zoom out from tunnel vision when aiming, CVs instead of actually learning that being close to allied ships instead of actually doing whatever we want without any strategy whatsoever, learning about how mechanics and every class of ship works, or learn how to [edited] L2P in general. Keep the tears flowing guys.

And the -3 goes to...? I'll follow from here since it's the last "most valid" vote, but... Blyskawica: 31 - 3 = 27 (It's a really good DD, but it's the least "OP" ship of the three remaining, let's face it.) Belfast: 28 Scharnhorst: 33 + 1 = 34 (Very good "BB-CA", a lot of people will say that the guns lack the damage of other BBs, which is true, but the reload compensates for that. With interest. Bonus points for a BB that's fun to play.)

What? Adding something challenging? To this game? Keep dreaming, they are removing anything remotely similar to that.

I see that isolated islands with no one around are still better magnets for BBs than smokes for torpedos.

Hm... I use CE on my Scharnhorst on randoms "for trolling purposes" but I'm considering that thowing it out of the window when trying next ranked season and leaving adrenaline rush out too since Epicenter should make battles shorter and closer (for good or bad) maybe will leave enough points for 18/19 points captains for AFT and both manual secondaries and AA guns. I wonder how worth that is.

Epicenter?! Hm. I'm not that fan of ranked battles, I mostly play them for the flags, TBH. But tier 7 and Epicenter battles? I actually like the idea.

Well, even if I don't really like paper ships that much I understand that they're for filling holes in tech trees. I just don't see an excuse when those "holes" are a third of the total ships of a nation. Even if they use paper ships for that when it reaches 1/3 of the whole tech tree of a nation it's a bit too much, don't you think?

I certainly do.

As someone that just played a few CV battles, and in co-op, just to vaguely understand how they work so I know how to dodge their torp drops more effectively, simply because I don't like... whatever game they play. Certainly not the same as any other class. For me is boring as f***. Also, I'll say as others that apparently play these things and I'll guess by that that's the UI, but... Somethings wrong with that. When I tried planes were unresponsive, they did weird things every now and then... Certainly nothing remotely interesting or fun to play. I even don't hate them or claim they are OP, that requires a good CV player, which seems even more rare than a good BB one. We'll see if that CV remork they keep talking about changes something, but as for now I can't care less about if things called CVs are even in the game or they remove them or whatever.

That's the complicated way, if I know it's a RN cruiser and have not other important targets I just shoot in there with the main guns, the smoke is so small for those cruisers so if the cruiser stays there it's almost a guaranteed hit, even if blind, and they're so fragile that I really enjoy all those invisible citadels.

1/3 of russian ships are paper... Man, I really dislike those lines because I only like ships that actually existed, I even respect incompleted ships, like Ibuki and such, at least they get the info about that ship because even if it was not completed or changed to converted to another thing like Amagi at least there's that. But I can't stand completely paper ships, and before everyone jumps on me, yes, I know there are designs about those ships, that WG don't make those ships out of thin air regardless, but I'd really like if ships that never where even started to build, even if there's a design out there were not in the game. And reaching a third of the implemented ships of one nation of paper ships... I'd prefer thinks like the Japanese DD split, only to tier 8 if there's not enough ships to make a whole line. A third of paper ships is just awful.

The thing is that they gave RN cruisers smoke, but all of those cruisers have a extremely short time of smoke, so they only put two puff of smoke, so you can't just go full speed, use smoke and slow down like in a MK, or a DD, because you'll set up your smoke, and run out of it before your ship stopped, so as said eartlier you have to firts slow down and at around 1/4 speed finally use the smoke if you don't want to outrun your own smoke.

Next time maybe try to zoom out when aiming and look at your smoke circle when using the smoke. Maybe that solves your questions.

I haven't seen this game mode in the last month. Not joking. Did they change at what tiers it's played or something? Did they remove it? I think I'm one of the few here that liked that game mode, but I miss it.

My father had a book of 1063 pages of the whole 3 main books [edited] slammed together. I read that [edited] at [edited] 8 years. Of course I [edited] like The Lord of the Rings. I missed 2/3 [edited] parts of the books in the movies though.

While leaving Kutuzov as it whas with AFT, because obviouly some range the ship gained with a captain skill would have been a nerf to a premium ship and not an overall nerf to everything and thus unacceptable for mother Russia. F*** Mogami more though.

Yes... This game is getting more boring with every patch and the "quality" of the players is droping like a rock (I'm not the best player around but I can feel that with the matches you can get last months, specially since christmas it's been awful). Every patch makes it harder to keep any sort of interest in this game unless you play BBs which I thankfully do, but even for those ships it's getting pretty boring too, I like them but no one can argue that they are the lazyest playstyle by themself, last thing we need it's turning the game itself more lazy not having to care about anything.

Great, my reply got deleted when I edited it. As I said earlier good CV players seem to be a very rare sight, even counting with the average BB player, so that maybe make me overconfident against CVs. About my win rates with Scharnhorst and Tirpitz as I was trying to say, true, I very rarely do a division, I had a friend to play with but he dropped the game, so I play solo a lot so yeah, no matter how much I know how to brawl with those ships and how much damage I do that's not going to win battles, that's why my win rate it's that meh with those ships regardless of the damage. That's why I always laugh at people that use stats agains others but then only looks at damage done because certainly, the amount of damage you're able to deal doesn't have to mean anything.

Well, I mostly play BBs and I push close to any other ship that I see that knows how to go in the circles at least so I don't fear CVs that much. CV also can only attack a limited amount of ships at a time, and they mostly focus all their planes on the same ship, so it's not the end of the world if a CV attacks a ship, there's 11 more. I don't know why everyone s**ts their pants at the slightest glimpse of a CV.

Yes. That's what I remember, until this last month I used to get T7 matches in that map and I really enjoyed it since it's actually my favourite game mode, but since some point before christmas until now I haven't got Epicenter one single time. I play a lot T7 and T8 lately with an ocasional Yamato battle but I think it's strange that playing a lot of T7 I haven't seen any Epicenter battle at least in that tier.

As far as I know you can only ask for a refund for premium ships if you still haven't played any battle with them, the moment you hit the battle button with one of them you can forget about it.

Yes. I've used that for months now in all my BBs, I tend to push close to caps or even go in caps if there's not many BBs near my cap or able to pay attention to it at least specially with my Scharnhorst so I ended using smoke screens of DDs and spotted torps from inside the smoke with enough time to react thanks to Vigilance. (Be sure to know from where the torps are likely to come and angle that way so you just have to maneuver to fit between them because if not you're dead regardless and Vigilance won't save you from that). The thing is that as said before you have to trade something for that. In my BBs I have the unpopular decision of run Vigilance over Superintendent. But that's just my case where I either succesfullly push and kill everything or just tank everything by just angling or I mess up so hard that I just get wrecked so there's no use for me for SI since I don't life long enough to use all my heals regardless. Anyways I really like that skill and love it since they buffed it patches ago to the actual +25% torp detection range. I highly recommend it.

Wow, you angle, what a boss. I don't even know what to say to such an ultimate camper, your build looks almost a normal one to me (kinda). Way to go.