Shirakami_Kon

Just how many destroyers is that?

Yes, I can understand that even not playing them. I know RN cruisers will be (surprise) nerfed with a hammer. But that's something that should have been thought BEFORE even releasing the RN cruisers, and it was pointed out back then. WG wants his stupid gimmicks, with RN cruisers it was "we want cruisers without HE". And here in the forums there was immediatly a cry of "they will underperform and be crap". Then came the idea of the magic AP and the ability of those cruisers of buying time for dealing damage with the smoke. Then it was said it would be OP, that it could be a problem, I even remember a few comments predicting the actual smoke meta between RN cruisers and DDs. And WG as usual, didn't give a flying f*** even if all these problems we have now were telegraphed by their decisions. So instead of thinking something back then when they should have (as always, next is RN BBs with radar, magic heals and ridiculous concealment rates, what could go wrong with that too?) they have to "fix" that now. As they fix everything: breaking it more.

I said I don't play RN cruisers (besides Belfast) so no, I don't play Neptune or Minotaur as they are RN cruisers.

I'm actually completely in favor to applying those changes for cruisers (and that's coming from someone who you could blame of not playing RN CLs but that owns both Belfast and Kutuzov). However I'm completely against this changes affecting DDs. DDs are the ships that are actually supposed to have the smoke in this game. It's their thing. They're nerfed enough in other aspects (specially if the happen to be IJN ones). The problem is not the smoke. The problem is who has that smoke and the total of ships with smoke available. All this "smokalipse" we have now is caused mostly by RN CLs. You have DDs, with their smoke, ok, that's fine. Then you add a line of cruisers with smoke. And that's what started to cause this 5-10 minutes periods most of the battles that you only see smoke, and that's it. This "smoke meta" started the moment RN CLs were released, if it only was DDs with smoke it would have been bearable as it always was until that point. So yeah, IMO that new smoke mechanic should totally be applied to cruisers, but not to DDs, they don't have to pay (again) for WGs genius idea of "let's add a line of cruisers with smoke, what could go wrong?".

That's not the problem. I know not to yolo Leroy Jenkings style (learned to do that the hard way though). My point is just that BBs are way too RNG with their shots, which to be honest, all classes are RNG in fact, but BBs are the ones that suffer from that the most since you have the longest reload of all classes with your guns. Besides that, it's true that BBs get buffs (or "pseudo-buffs" AKA "nerf everything else" which incidentally creates a more convenient situation for BBs) but I'm fed up with everyone selling BBs like "an OP class". BBs would BE an OP class if your aim actually meant something for each salvo, but playing a BB it's a game of knowing how to properly tank hits, how to manage the damage you can't mitigate by your armor and playing lottery every 30 seconds on average. That "playing the lottery" part it's where I call BS about BBs being considered by everyone OP, broken and such. That inconsistency in damage OP was talking about. It's just RNG, no one has anything to do with that, it's sheer plain luck. The only actual difference between a potato and someone conecting two brain cells in his brain while playing a BB, the only way you as a player can make a real difference in impact in a battle with your BB is that a potato will either yolo and just die or borderhug doing nothing while a good BB player will know how to get in a good position where just "start playing the lottery" and angle, tank and absorb damage if needed with which he will buy the time needed for a BB to get lucky with RNG to farm enough damage with enough time. And that's where I think "what part of that of that is so OP?" BBs are tanky, true, but that's how they buy themselves time enough to compensate for just having one RNG dice roll every 30 seconds.

Completely agree. But will you waste your time making a video about how it usually looks in a BB battle instead of the awesome one like that even if you'll surely won't spend so many tries like to get a battle like this one. The battles that no one sees about BBs that's "impossible" for them to have since they're so freaking OP? Or are you going to defend that all of your battles in BB are like that one?

BBs are the most RNG ships of the game (and punished quite hard for that in bad positions due to the long reloads). Even German ones, I for example unlocked Bismarck recently and already have a 19 point captain put on the ship thanks to my Tirpitz with the secondary build I love to use on both of them so I try to get at 8-9 km or less to make use of them. At that distance it's very easy to aim for citadel shots but I see the same inconsistency in damage OP says even at that range. Sometimes you get citadels and just obliterate something, sometimes you have another cruiser in the same situation you obliterated the previous one and you just get overpens and can almost hear the cruiser laugh at you... I don't really see what I as a player can bring to the result of each salvo except aiming well so you get the chance for the citadel roll. But it's been long since I just resigned that BBs are pure RNG, which lately makes it quite frustrating to be honest... But I guess it's one of the last remaining "balancing" factors BBs still have.

It would be nice that not until WG completely abandon the idea of BBs with radar and BS heals. (And from what it seems from leaks defensive AA).

It's sad that DDs have to pay that all those RN CLs with smoke created together with DDs all this smoke meta we have now when as said earlier, smoke was ok before everyone and his mother having smoke. Only DDs with smoke was perfectly ok. However considering the current situation I'll be honest. I can't feel sorry (for the cruisers specially) and I'd like to see those new mechanics implemented. But it's true that I don't think that DDs should pay for this, they're nerfed enough. It would be nice if this new mechanic could only be applied to cruiser smokes and leave DD smokes as always.

I think it's just that WG takes into account how muchs CVs are played. I haven't looked at server stats myself but I'll take the word of quite a few that said that CVs are the less played class in this game. Which for example leads to: there's missions excluding CVs, you're the only one to complain about it here in the forums. Guess what would happen if there was a mission that forced you to play CV with the amount of players that don't even bother with them? My bet is that we'd have another of those pitchfork parties we have from time to time. Not fair as you say but that's how it is I guess.

Ok about the camouflage. In next patch they're ending the credits rewards in SCs because people is tired of more free credits and doesn't seem them as a nice free reward anymore instead of the free premium ship they rightfully deserve out of those. So giving modules that everyone isn't going to use and just sell for more free credits should make them put 2 and 2 together. I hope. Let me dream, ok? Just as an idea they might as well buff again the module so it brings something worth comparing to -10% detection range besides expanding your vision range farther out of the range you can shoot anyways (useful stuff) and a free Vigilance perk, because they haven't tweaked the detection range of the torps enough so we need to spot them from Mars instead of just from the Moon.

What I noticed is the reward for the fifth stage. That Target Aquisition mod or whatever it's called. "That thing no one ever uses" for me. I see that the rewards keep improving, since people complained about special modules no one wants now we get regular modules no one wants. Wonderful.

People playing in potato PCs are OP, please nerf. By the way, who needs foliage anyways? It could be removed again for all I personally care, it doesn't bring or mean anything to this game as said earlier (advantadge, lol) except longer loading times for those potato PCs that force people to remove it making them so OP of course.

If we're talking about bad things about Cleveland at least I expected some shell arcs rant, which is one of the few things arguably bad (since it's bad for some people only due to personal preference mostly), but it's not pointed out in OPs post. You dissapoint me OP.

Since we're talking in memes now I'll just say

I have a Yamato, played a few battles, got sick of the meta of high tiers and sold it. A few months later the permanent camos appeared and bought Yamato again and the camo forgetting I quitted by how the meta at high tiers is and I haven't sold her again because of paying the camo, but it's gathering dust in my port again. I'm not bothered with grinding anything past tier 7 anymore so I guess I won't have to sell another one.

Meh... I don't know why, but what I notice the most is that the ones that hate BBs to almost alarming levels are some DD players. A few days ago I was "testing" that fact so to say while playing a BB myself by taunting through chat an enemy DD. And even if before I had the intuition that they have a bit of hate it was surprising to see how doing that made a lot of them get so pissed off that they did a completely unnecesary yolo rush to try to sink me. Better for me I guess since I was playing Bismarck with the secondary build and just melted them, but yeah... pretty interesting to see those reactions and that little thought at such evident bait by me.

I have to admit that those are some damn hard anti-CV tactics joining all that AA. That'd would ruin any CVs day. I just don't see the planes.

Wrong. They'll be using Conquerors.

Since IMO is mostly personal preference I'd say that you wait until you get a T10, play a bit there and see if you like how's the game at tier 10 and if it's worth it for you. I have both Tirpitz and a Yamato with the permanent camo and even with that in my case I regret buying the permanent camo because even if it solves any credit problem you can have playing the T10 with which you have the camo I ended up barely playing Yamato because I can't stand the playstyle at T10 so I kinda regret the camo purchase and I'm more happy with Tirpitz.

Maybe it's Holydays™.

The same I expect from a player of any other class. Nothing, specially since I play solo. As for anyone else opinion, don't let it get to you, it's an online game, every match you get paired with a bunch of random people you don't even know or understand in what they are thinking while playing most of the time. You know what you want to do in each battle, you act acordingly, and that's it. You don't really need to give any explanation to anyone of why you do something or why not unless you try to get to cooperate with someone on your team for whatever reason. But someone ranting about you? Let it be. He'll get tired eventually. I tend to ignore everyone like that. It's just a random person, if he's not happy is not my problem, I'm just one of twelve in the team, I play my part as best as I can and that's it.