Shirakami_Kon

It's also called being an autist, which apparently in some rare cases of actual normal sentience out of your usual state of believing you actually win any arguments with the amount of irrelevant nonsense per second you're able to spout you seem to be able to recognize even yourself as seen here. Now, if you would, stop pestering and derailing every unfortunate topic in the forums you manage to get your hands on and just leave. You contribute nothing but utter nonsense. I have to see you make your first actually constructive comment that makes any shred of sense to what was being discussed before you get into the topic. You're just vomiting your delusion in every topic you get into and derail it until it gets closed like happened with two of them already because something is really so wrong with you that you can't even realize how insane you are, and then proceed to move on to the next topic to ruin with your nonsense. Just go away. How haven't you been banned for trolling and derailing nonstop as if you got paid for it is beyond me.

Facts are a wonderful thing, aren't they?

Was fun though. Everyone was so amused by the full cruiser match, not something you see everyday.

So... it just happened again just now. I've been playing since 2015, playing co-op quite often and never got to see a co-op team entirely of the same class of ships until I opened this thread days ago, but now in matter of days this has been the second time. You know? I was kinda joking with the topic title that maybe the current scenario of DDs outspotting you, CVs shitting on you since the rework made a lot of cruisers useless against them, even ships that were feared no-fly zones back in the day, BBs that just straight up overmatch you no matter what you do pretty much every single game, and now to add insult to injury you have submarines torturing you for tring to get a bit close to get to shoot at something, laughing at you and your puny airstrike range pinging you from twice the range (if you even get an airstrike to begin with to give you the placebo of having some sort tool against them) is the last straw that's making a lot of cruisers abandon randoms when you'll do better with literally anything else these days, also considering that the times I play randoms the number of cruisers in queue feels quite anemic to what I remember in normal times. And yes, dockyard is giving some spam fires missions, easy farmable in co-op and such, but so has always been the case every once in a while and this never happened before anyway, ever. Something really feels... fishy.

No. That's the optimal place for you to post.

Nah general is a no go, there's a perfect place for your type of content here actually. https://forum.worldofwarships.eu/forum/155-off-topic/ There you go, feel free to share with us anything there.

In your own.

My man on his way to get even these threads closed because somehow they refuse to ban him.

In my experience co-op is really harsh in credits, it's a complained topic for years, but they won't do anything about it. You can play without a credit loss if you play very well (or should I say outdamage hard the rest of your teammates) up to tier 8s (this is with no camo, no premium account, etc.) I personally don't run premium acount ever, except from the random premium days from rewards from missions, armory, etc. and in that scenario I find that for tiers 9 and 10 it's possible to break even (somewhere between 10-20k credits) with really good matches even with tiers 9 and 10, but you need the permacamo for that in co-op, if not forget about it completely. I understand that they seem really against people farming credits in co-op, but why they can't make it so you at least break even at all tiers, even if it's just that mere 10-20k, whatever, just that the game doesn't punish you for playing the game by losing credits without having to get a permacamo is beyond me.

Since you guys can't even fix bots running into every island they come across just make Ocean the only map in co-op mode. Gives the map some use since it's still a map that exists and it's still in the game and there's no islands to run into, so problem solved. Win-win.

Nvm. Actually if a mod can just delete this comment.

It is the second one... It's not even funny...

Since it's been a mere useless fireworks button for a long time already since the CV rework I keep finding myself asking why is the Defensive AA Fire consumable still a thing. People doesn't even run it anymore on ships like Atlanta and Flint, of which the infinite amount of uses of the consumable used to be their thing, but it's so useless that even those ships dropped it's use. All that not even mentioning how questionable it is anyway if you have to make the choice between either Def. AA or hydro, when the former is straight up useless too in non CV games while the later is always usable. So my suggestion is pretty simple. If Def. AA will keep being in the game, as useless as it is, add it to all cruisers in a separate slot from hydro so at least we all get to enjoy some fancy fireworks, not just those privileged USN cruisers while pretending to take down planes effectively or something. If not just straight up remove the consumable, what's the difference it gives nowadays anyway?

I hope you DD players are ready to deal with this next patch. Have fun.

To be honest, @ziratulbihac, this right here is the best answer you'll get about why this is happening and best advice you got here. I personally see no point in getting into how people chooses to spend their own money, that's everyone's affair, and it's stupid for anyone else to try in my opinion, but I second that buying your way into the game and rushing yourself into mid and high tiers right away will only lead to personal frustration. I've read your comments about you coming from WoT, but I also agree in what others have already covered. The only thing in common between WoT and WoWS is the publisher, WG. The two games are two complete different worlds and experience in one of the games doesn't exactly mean anything in the other one. Also, it's not your fault or anything, and sure, a lot of people can be really rough here, but a lot of the backlash given here it's not only because of WG baiting newcomer players like you into buying their way into hight tiers right of the bat, where the complete lack of experience in the game just makes you free fodder for the enemy team and a liability to yours, leading to a pretty rough and unfun experience for you as a player, who also just got stripped of some money (as willingly as that may be). To be honest, lots of us been there, done that. On one hand we'd like to help others avoid that, not only because of the "omg, I just got yet another noob who just started the game at tier 8+ who doesn't even know how to play yet", but because of that some of us know first hand how it will feel for you too. And it's not fun, trust me. On the other hand WG hasn't been doing it's greatest over here in WoWS, leading to a lot of tension and frustration with the community of this game. It's not been long this game has suffered a Community Contributor exodus because they were just wanted to generate sells and promote the game blindly, nothing else. A lot of the were people that truly love this game, but any suggestion and feedback of the balance of the game getting ruined was ignored until one day one of them was told that they shouod just shut up, that they don't know how the game works (spoilers: most of those players are the most passionate and experienced players you can find anywhere, so you can get the picture here). Add to all this WG jumping insanely into lootbox tendencies and some interesting game dramas here and there you can check yourself, like what happened with the first Puerto Rico dockyard event, CV rework, Missouri and such, and that will tell you why some people is not fond of seeing players give another cent to WG, that being of their concern or not of what you decide to do with your money. In any case, welcome to the game, hope you find your fun here. Maybe we'll see out there.

Considering the chances of ever brawling ever again at tier 8 and up? I still have to decide if I'll spend the minimum required doubloons to unlock her when I'm done with the dockyard missions considering her catch seems to be brawling. I used to have German BBs for brawling and lately I've resigned to reset their commanders for a pure tank build. Brawling is literally dead.

This is a new level of weekend moment for sure.

Please no... No more.

Indeed, I'm a quite long time player and I use to play co-op a lot (just check my clan tag ) and it's the first time I've seen this myself. Yes, hard to see blacked out like that but you can see by the enemy names that they are co-op bots.

Those are the final boss.

Come on, don't be so hasty. I mean, sure, I'd be surprised Shinano doesn't get it's place as the japanese super CV, but give it time, one day Eagle and US SUS will need to be powercrept too. Just be patient and wait for her proper time to shine.

Sadly it's not WG's style to give something above utter trash for absolutely free like that. The fact they do is actually a big red flag about the ship.

So, it's getting very near to 3 years of WG retracting on their word that submarines wouldn't be added to the game and throwing us in the current nightmare that is dealing with them, and even worse, waiting for WG to figure out what to do exactly with them yet, since there's been comments that WG hasn't even figured out what the intended role of a submarine in game is (why are they already in the game without even that basic concept solved to begin with? Guess only someone smarter than us at WG knows). Even so, in the middle of this hell we got some little breathing room from being unwilling (while quite some of us even paying in the process) lab test subjects, for WG to "rethink" how to improve submarines and make them less of an infuriating nightmare for the one playing against them, and something the average player that just got into the game last week an is now sailing a Balao in tier 10 because the game just slapped it on his face so "why the heck not?" can cope with. Which leads me to my question after weeks of submarines having returned to the game after such blatantly failed "rethinking", when do we get the next one so we can have a break of being lab rats and have what we came to the game for: some fun?

I'm just gonna leave this here... https://www.twitch.tv/searaptor00/v/1481422374?sr=a&t=13350s

Indeed. In fact I'd be happy to see this be the submarine gimmick instead and remove the stupid ping and homing torpedos completely. Just allow them to launch torpedos that turn in the direction needed. The capability of spamming torps while kiting or moving in a diferent direction as needed would be strong already. In fact it would fit the theme of submarines of being stealthy. Currently the ping gives away general position of the submarine and it's intent of the submarine to strike you. If they had no ping but these torpedos that turn only after launch and then act as normal torpedos you'd only spot the torpedos but you wouldn't know where the submarine is maintaining it's role of hidden menace that you don't know for sure where is it even if it torps you like this, because maybe it was sailing somewhere else in the meantime. And since for the rest they would be completely normal torpedos, no homing bs, if you pay attention you have counterplay against them as usual, if you were sailing in a straight like for too look, well, that wouod be fair and no one would complain as you mention.