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exactly this. 20k damage done on DD will net you a lot more then 20k damage done on BB since creds and xp are based on % of hp removed from target. also, kill gives you around 15% of full hp kill, something like that.

from what I know about Sander, cruisers are his main, so I fail to see how asking for games where there will be fewer dds and more cruisers leads to asking for more ships that you counter.or nowadays cruisers are counter for cuisers (man this was deep)

and then ofc, sometimes you just have to love this game, and WGs way of balancing the game (aka when rng flips you a middle finger.) 2 fights in the same round, 1 against Iowa, 1 against yorck. statistics say that yorck is tankier ship then Iowa, and that makes sense because of WG.

at least I can agree about the "stupid" part. and you have ships with things you mentioned allready in the game. try searching in "cruiser" section of tech tree.

no they don't, he was joking about that one. basicly what he was saying is, why would you bring 2 dds in a game, when you can go alone and kill everyone by yourself.

grow up kid.

just had to.

Oh no, you didn't

it still doesn't make sense that your t9 ship is more expensive then t10. few days ago I bought Izumo. when I saw the prices on modules, I wanted to cry honestly... b hull 4+ mil creds, c hull 5+ mil creds, range upg 2.5 mil creds, something like that. Fully upgraded Yamato = 20 mil...

had pretty good games today with it. 7 citadels in one game, too bad my team was complete potatoes and died in like 10 minutes. took out full hp D.Donskoi in a single salvo few games later, etc... had 6 games in it today, with 50% of WR, 113k avg damage and 1500 avg exp (which is quite nice if you count only 50% wr). Sadly, only survived 1 of them, because as noted, in most of them my team consisted of complete potatoes and cowards hiding away in their BBs for 15 mins... even when we had upper hand and could win easily.

thats why high tier cruisers / russian cruisers can still have a good time. I'm currently at Shchors (t7 in case I've missed the name), and there is bunch of fat, slow moving targets to burn down with your vodka infused HE shells that burn everything down (and the beautiful part is, you are doing it from 17km away, hidden behind the island in best case scenarion), or to use that railguns to nail every DD that shown his face in a 14km radius.

another prime example of excelent attitude and 1337 BB player. you don't want others oppinions, you don't want advices, you don't want to even discuss something. so why are you on the forum again? why even bother posting?

exactly. now b/c hulls only give you ~7k hp boost and better secondaries/AA. so spending 4mil for bit better then trash, then after that 5 more mil creds to finally get decent AA is imho pretty bad investment.

when was the last time you played it?there was few changes, so nowadays B hull doesn't give that much to it, C hull on the other hand gives you A LOT more AA.

from your attitude my guess would be that you were always the goalkeeper? lets take another aproach then. what if I said to you that you can kill DD with your BB, and DD doesn't win that fight 100% of time?

paper is fine, please nerf rock. sincerely your scissors.

eh, thats my biggest problem with it. you only have 1 possible way to play it, and sitting in reverse bow on just isn't my type of gameplay. on the other hand, if you charge in and have to back away, thats nearly impossible... huge ship, huge broadside exposing large citadel areas, and even if you survive all of that, they forgot to put armor on your stern, so every BB shooting at your @ss will deal you huge damage but well, guns aren't that bad, damage/penetration wise, so I'll give him that. and I currently have 26 games, with 80k avg damage and 1200 avg xp per battle...

quote me on anything I've asked you. for f*cks sake, find one topic I've said anything like that. you jumping to WRONG conclusions, and fighting windmills is none of my problems. and "if you say so" was directed (god damn it, I've even put a freaking number next to it, but somehow you still missed it) to the thing that "I don't base anything". now, you might find it "boring and dishonest", but you know what? I didn't even imply that fires are OP, let alone stated it directly. so, stop making stupid and "boring and dishonest" assumptions, and arguing me based on what you think I've might have been thinking while saying something else, and please, because I really hate it, stop "putting words into my mouth". If I mean something, and if I want to say something, I will, no need for you to assume what I might want to say.

#1: now kindly show me where I said that, or pretended that is the case #2: now again, show me where I said that #3: where and when did I mention that? #4: if you say so #5: but you can't. you said it yourself that you can't, don't you remember? #6: now once again, show me where I said that AP (especially BB AP) is not dominant, is not on top of the charts of damage dealing, or more effective in causing permanent damage. PLEASE show me that. you are barking on the wrong tree my mate. you are arguing with me about things I never stated, never said, or even never tought of, and calling me dumb. well, if it floats your boat, sure, continue to do so. you will probably find out that I've mentioned aliens and ISIS somewhere (ok, now I did) and start arguing about them too, but please don't since I don't really want to discuss them now.

No I don't. I never used damage control party, I never got burned by a HE spam, and I never burned down someone with it. And yes, I'm perfectly aware that the moment I press DCP, I'm immune to fires for some time, and added to that, teleported to a safe spot on the map, cause turning around your battleship and then outrunning a cruiser is piece of cake. And no, I don't think that I can get 20 fires on me, all done by a single ship (maybe in theory its possible) because I'm probably dead by that time. And yea, I'm so dumb that I actually DO THINK that 1 ship can get 2 fires on an enemy (heck, call me retarded, but I once had a dream about 3 fires on a ship) in an 80 seconds. Maybe you should try it, but remember to switch to HE shells, not AP, AP doesn't have a chance to put something on fire. But, since I'm obviously dumb, have no idea about game mechanics, DCP etc. pls do explain to me where are all the witherers, double witherers, 100+k fire damage etc games comming from? must be from a single fire.

jesus that video -.-' "game is great" "erm, game is great" "khm, "game is great" "whats your name?" "yea, game is great" while being dressed in traditional clothes that screams "im a muthafakin martial artist" and wearing 2 watches, 1 on each hand, because of reasons. btw, game is great

angling a cruiser works till what, tier 5-6 maybe? good luck bouncing off high tier (high caliber) BB shells.

simply put: Adapt. if you play high tier games same as low tier games, you will have a REALLY bad time... 1) wait for your fleet to move in, don't go solo (its a freaking campfest, as soon as enemy spots 1 ship going a bit in front, you become focused by 10 enemies) 2) rely on terrain and/or your concealment to stay undetected (sounds lame, but hey, if its working... as someone else said it allready, hide behind the island, and spam shells from there. they can't kill what they can't see) 3) try to find best targets for you (depending on ship you are sailing, but I'll give example of Des Moines since I have it. watch the map, when you see 1 cruiser going alone somewhere, sneak up to him into brawling range, and say hello with a 9 AP shells full of freedom in his citadel, repeat that every 6 seconds and soon after, your job to bring democracy into the lands far away is done. or find that sneaky little ninja DD that will make the smartes move of his life by flanking alone around some islands, pop radar and give him few salvos of burning HE freedom)

eh, not really a proper place to post it, but good luck with it...

well, to jump on the train most of the defensive skills that are shown nowadays, don't really work in real fights, against techniques that are made to be... well... basicly lethal... as aotearas said, having someones joint locked, or (as shown in the video), making him do a front flip, is no where near as effective as breaking someones leg/arm/neck, poking his eyes out, knocking him out etc, with a single move. and thats what most of the modern "offensive", aka military techniques are based on. (talking about russian systema, mossads krav maga bla bla bla) and as you allready noted, most of them are "ritualized" by now, meaning, they look nice on training, until you understand that its just another form of balet where 2 "fighters" are dancing around together, jumping and rolling around, faking things to make the moves more efficient than they actually are... its all fun until you actually think your muay thai, systema, krav maga etc. opponent will roll over as soon as you move your hand towards him, just to find out he broke your arm on 3 different spots... just my 2 cents ^^