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@Javicen I merged your topic with this one that is already discussing the Hololive colab.

Code is no longer valid and the thread is from 2018. Locked.

Locked. Necro.

Locking this one down folks. It was a mistake to leave it up as long as we did. Edit: The thread below discusses the matter and is the most active, if anyone feels this still needs to be debated (it probably doesn't). All others have been locked.

No, spamming the forum with rage threads would certainly not be allowed. And while it's not the same situation as with CVs and subs at all since this is about something people paid money for, you are right, we really don't need another thread here.

It's strange with contentious topics. Theoretically yeah, we don't want duplication on the forum but at the same time, for something like this, where some people feel like they were wronged in some way, it's a bit difficult to just close them down. The last thing anyone wants is for people to feel like they are being censored when they disagree with WG. I genuinely hope this will be the last time this is discussed as now I feel like there aren't that many people that care anymore. But you are right, from now on I'll try to merge/lock topics on the subject as it has really been discussed to death.

Absolutely any negative PR is bad. Although, like I said before, I am pretty sure that a lot of people are just super happy that they got a free perma camo worth 5k doubloons since they had the Moskva and nothing else. obviously these people won't be rushing to the forum to praise WG because that's how things work but my point is that, for some people, this was objectively amazing value.

It's also like super against the rules. Thread is locked.

See, I look at it in the sense of: - yesterday I had X number of t10 ships; today I have the exact same X number of t10 ships - yesterday I had Y number of perma camos at t10; today I have the exact same Y number of perma camos at t10. (I won't even go into the fact that the new t10 ships has lower servicing costs) I genuinely don't see a problem. And again, I am not arguing in bad faith here. I am not being facetious when I say I don't see the issue. I really don't.

Sorry but I am genuinely not trying to take a side here. I have read through a LOT of posts about this issue. Maybe I don't understand the problem but you will have to trust me it's not due to bad faith.

This has been discussed to death so I thought about outright locking the thread but I decided against it since as someone who has the Moskva and had the perma camo before this change, I feel like I can have a say as I have kept quiet until now (edit: I meant I didn't want people to feel like I am prohibiting them from talking about a problem). People asking for compensation do not speak for all of us. I had a Moskva with perma camo before, I now still have a Moskva with a perma camo. I am absolutely fine with that. I don't see what I would be compensated for. On top of that I now have a premium t5 ship as well! Not just a perma camo for it but an actual premium. What's more I am happy that everyone who had the Moskva now has the perma camo too. I know that a lot of people don't have the time/money/patience/skills to get one of the "fancy" t10 ships with a perma camo so the fact that so many people got a freebie makes me genuinely glad. I am willing to bet that there were a lot (A LOT) more people with the Moskva without the camo so overall, the way I see it, a bunch of people from the playerbase benefited from this change and nothing changed for others (myself included). I will go one further and say that, if WG wants to give out each and every perma camo I have, for free, to everyone, I would absolutely be fine with that. As long as I still have what I paid for WHEN I paid for it, I don't mind it if down the line, other people get stuff too as long as I have a reasonable amount of time between purchasing it and it becoming free (which absolutely was the case here). I dislike too many of WG's decisions to list here. Some going back 3 years. But the notion of being up in arms that some people got something for free that I had for a long time before that is really confusing to me.

I guess I am not gonna close this despite the 6 month+ necro but I will at least move it to the Destroyer sub-forum. PSA: SOME OF THE INFORMATION IN THIS THREAD IS NO LONGER VALID

I can only interpret this in two ways: - confused post made by someone with "interesting" opinions but with 10/10 photography skills - troll post made by someone who purposefully shot a team mate in order to make this thread that also has 10/10 photography skills I will go with former because as I always say, I really don't enjoy handing out penalties. Either way this thread is locked as the forum cannot help (more than what some of the more charitable players that have replied have already said).

I have often died early. Sometimes it was my own mistake, other times I couldn't avoid it. Nothing would make me angrier or make me want to quit the game more than if on top of going back to the port after doing nothing, I would also get some form of punishment. I really don't understand the logic.

@Furius_Marius I have moved this topic to the Cruiser sub-forum. Good luck!

What a great idea! I am sure that someone from WG will get right on it. /s Thread locked for being blatantly nonconstructive.

Oh 100 is absolutely a low number as far as statistics is concerned but anything lower and you simply cannot check for statistical significance. Basically in market research (and statistics) 100 is the lowest possible number for a sample size (ideally at least). This is a pretty good article on the subject. I always get losing streaks as well. It depends on how many games I lose though. I've had seasons where I lost like 8-10 games in a row and I've had seasons where my losing streak was like 4 games. As a general rule of thumb I try to aim for an overall win rate of over 60%. So I focus on that rather than loses in a row.

This might be an unpopular opinion but I think the blame lies with both CCs and the players. Look, CCs tend to be good players, they are addressing their tactic videos to people roughly at their level. As such they leave out a bunch of important details. That really is a failing on their part - it's like going to a bunch of first graders and trying to teach them trigonometry. It just doesn't work. I think that a solution for this is the address it the way car reviews have disclaimers like "don't buy this Lamborghini if you are not a seasoned driver because it will try to kill you in every corner if you don't know what you're doing". On the other hand, obviously any player should have some sense of self. To continue the above analogy, just because you see some test driver going around the Nurnburgring, you wouldn't dream of doing that even if they are explaining what they are doing. It is, to a lesser extent the same with any game. You build up to that by taking successively higher risks and determining where the performance edge is for you. For example I never go down the middle on Two Brothers because I don't consider myself good enough to be able to do that consistently with success. However, I often take central positions in BBs because I know how to abuse islands and positional advantage. So the tl;dr is the CCs are not qualifying the difficulty of their tactics and the player base grossly overestimates their own ability to follow said tactics. I do think that the people who make videos do an exceptional job though and without them the level of play would be lower so any issues I might have are vastly less important than the huge volume of good they do. And also we tend to only notice players that screw up rather than all the ones that learn valuable lessons from the CCs.

Absolutely. Overall though, I would expect the MM to be somewhat balanced. One thing is strange though, theoretically, I consider around 100 matches to be the point at which the numbers are statistically significant. However, a lot of good players don't play 100 matches above rank 5. I mean I experimented a lot this season with a bunch of different DDs and weird builds and I still barely had 140ish matches in total this past season. I had far fewer than 100 above rank 5 since I had to gain more ranks below ran 5 because didn't rank out during the last season. What I am trying to say with all of this is that yes, you are right, because of the low number of matches you might get super unlucky. For what it's worth, for me it's more a matter of frustration than of numbers. I find it harder at the start of the season but far less frustrating. If I win a match after seeing 2 of my teammates die due to detonations and a non-camo and non-SE DD sailing around the edge of the map, I will be so frustrated at the end of it that the victory doesn't wash away the sense of pure frustration.

I suspect you are both probably right. I think what happens is you can probably win more matches as a good player toward the end of the season but I also think that there are relatively more matches that you cannot carry whatsoever. So basically your WR goes up but, out of the matches that you don't win, there will be a higher percentage of absolutely unwinable matches. Like your team suicides in the first 2 minutes rushing into some random location kind of thing. So in a nut shell, at the end of the season you will win more matches but you will also see a lot more of the bizarre behavior I was referring to.

@invicta2012 I moved this topic in the destroyer subsection. Good luck!

@Lofhario Hi there! I am really sorry you ran into someone that salty. However the forum is not the right place to address it. This article here highlights how to report a player that is harassing you. I urge you to report the player in question otherwise we won't change people that behave this way. On a related note, I would suggest you also refrain from replying to these sort of things. If you reply to someone abusing you with your own abuse you will most likely both get punished.

While I absolutely agree that the CS representative didn't understand what the issue was there, it's still against the rules to share those conversations. Especially since I am sure they didn't give their consent. Locked.

The longer the season progresses the lower the standard play will be. I've ranked out like 15 times now and it's always the same. Once you get toward the end of the season you start seeing some truly bizzare behavior.

Not like we can read all posts being made here. We read topics just like any player (that is to say, not all of them) and we go through ALL reported posts. But I am glad you pointed that out. Now if you could stop being toxic for like one post, that would be great @wilkatis_LV Oh and btw, I am desperately trying to NOT issue any punishment to you so I would really appreciate it if you stop forcing my hand. I really dislike warning people or whatever. It's just that keeping the forum civil is more important.