Capra76

Perhaps more importantly CV can adjust their role to suit the tactical situation on an almost moment by moment basis, thus: Dmg - can focus on this; spot - unparalleled ability; tank - unusual but can be done; cap - can be done, especially late game; Decap - as you say, one of the strongest tools; and this is perhaps what makes CV uniquely powerful, they can be a DD, a cruiser or a BB all at the same time and depending upon what the situation requires.

The concern I have is that it's not really that complicated, once you get the idea of dodging flak all that's really left is lining up your attacks, even an average player with a bit of work should be getting towards this sort of level within 100 games or so.

Let's turn the question around, if you're any good why would you want to play higher tier DD these days? Radar everywhere, if that doesn't get you then the CV will, BB camping on line J whilst hurling abuse at you for not suiciding unsupported into the nearest cap. Fun and engaging my

I've said it before and I'll say it again, if you went to your doctor looking for a cure for cancer and he gave you smallpox you wouldn't be happy would you? #WorldOfSkypox

I often wonder if the developers understand their own game.

The PT session for 0.8.9 starts tomorrow and the developer notes are here: Developer Bulletin 0.8.9 - no mention of any changes to CV, AA or anything related as far as I can see. Rejoice - Skypox balancing is complete.

I trimmed a bit of fat for clarity but nothing that concerned the points that I raised. But if you wish, point at the parts that change the meaning: Again in a 3 ship division.

Lets be clear, that was one game that you played in a 3 ship division, totally representative of the experience for the average T4 I'm sure.

AFAIK there's no link between joining, downloading the TST client and actually being given access to the server, I think (except for the CC's) it's just luck of the draw. I joined on the day it was announced and haven't heard anything yet.

What happens when there are no CV in a game?

Do you understand that your post is adressed to god himself?

I'm sorry, for new please substitute "inexperienced".

Erm, why on earth would you let a red DD get close to you, and if you are that careless then the tier matters not the slightest, a T6 will take you down with ease.

Do you really think as a new player you should be telling players who've been around for 4 years or more how to play?

Too many CV?

And herein lies the problem, WG think that if you balance CV so that they do xyz damage to other ships then that's fine, but they've given no thought whatsoever to the actual in-game experience for other players.

"It doesn't work in the game".....................

Question for WG: are you prepared to drop the whole concept of submarines if it proves unworkable?

There's nothing that can be done, as a class they are broken by design, you either have something that ruins the game for everyone else or you have something that is so weak that it's virtually unplayable, there is no middle ground.

@Excavatus at all. Could we have a bit more leeway with these kind of topics now, the initial shock from the rework has worn off so you shouldn't get a flood of the same topics anymore and we'll get a more productive discussion of specific topics here (such as Hosho OP) than in the bloated mess that is the pinned thread.

Personally I think Hosho OP is overstated and a lot of the extra damage output comes from being the seal club of choice. T4 CV used to have 1 torpedo each wave then WG decided they were too weak so doubled that to 2, but Hosho was balanced around having the best torps as a national flavour, so such a crude buff to all t4 CV meant she got more than anyone else.

The words of a man who doesn't undertand the game and has played over half of his in CV.

Great, but what has this got to do with T4 CV seal-clubbing?