Capra76

Out of interest what were the 8 cruisers your clan used and what were other clans bringing, were they regular cruisers doing regular CA stuff or was it all Stalingrad/PR to get round the 3 BB cap?

I don't think we've ever had a proper unbiased poll on this subject, certainly not since the rework has been finalized, so just a simple yes/no poll, who wants to keep CV in the game? I'm not offering any other options because the ships are as balanced as WG can make them so it's either CV as they are or nothing. And yes, there is zero chance of WG removing them, but I think it would be interesting to know how we all feel about them. Let's keep the comments constructive and hopefully the mods will be happy to let this run for a while.

Remember those numbers for Tirpitz go back to 2015 and include results from before the (pretty big) secondaries buff.

Sadly the poll didn't really work, because many seem to feel that CV should be in the game, just not this CV, and the yes/no split is thus unclear. What are everyone's thoughts (moderators especially) on a new poll with expanded options?

Is "average Bob" no longer allowed either?

Classic contrarian trolling behaviour, take a position counter to accepted opinion then defend it with thinly veiled insults and provocations, witness: [edited] All of it low level stuff designed to slip below the moderators radar but at the same time intended to annoy other posters ("unicums") and hopefully provoke a reaction.

I hate to point this out but the average damage has actually ticked up slightly since yesterday. The ship is nicknamed the Flying Conqueror for a reason, they're both good at letting poor players farm low value fire damage on BB to give them the impression that they're contributing to the game, it's not surprising that they both have higher than normal damage if the damage is mainly 100% repairable. Difference is that Conq can be played well by good players, whether 'Dom can is a different question.

220k damage, zero kills, minimal game impact. Ideal CV for noobs, no skill required to farm fire damage on BB and print XP and credits so you can convince yourself that you're good whilst having no real effect on the game.

Couple of vids here: 200k of low skill, low impact damage farming on BB in each game, a grand total of zero kills across both games. Basically it's the ideal ship for noob CV players, print yourself lots of damage, credits and XP and convince yourself you're good at the game whilst having next to no influence on the outcome of the battle. I can see why some players like it. Edit: On close inspection it's actually the same video posted on 2 different channels, not totally sure what's going on there but I'll leave it is as is.

Looks to me like a very noob friendly CV, send in one strike, set a fire then F-spam out of there and repeat; no real skill involved but you can get decent fire damage scores and credits/XP without having any signifficant effect on the outcome of the game. which if you're a CV player may well be a good thing.

That would imply that he has skills to transfer in the first place.

She seems to be very good at setting fires and the plane speed allows her to return quickly if the target DCP's, so perhaps that bumps up the average damage whilst explaining why even the top of leaderboard players are getting relatively poor WR% out of it.

Are you sure? Looking through the ST-EU clan quite a few of them have games in it so it looks plausible at first glance. Perhaps one of the supertesters could provide insight.

Maybe? @CLyDeThaMonKeY, one of your clans deputy commanders is on the list, could you/he shed any light on this.

Strange, there's one player out there with 250 games in it and another with over 140, all in damn near half the games in the ship are accounted for by the 7 players on the leaderboard. To have that many games they must have got hold of it early, how so I don't know, and is that screwing with the stats?

Sounds like a reasonable description of the reeeeeeeeeeework as a whole.

If you have a moment look up "Contrarian Troll" and all becomes clear. Best bet is to just laugh at them.

yeah, maybe T10 aren't meant to be played in co-op.

Hence April 1st

65% of 20 is 13 games, far too small a sample to make a judgement.

Well, T7 isn't lower tier, and the only ships that are decent all-rounders with longish range torps are going to be at T7. Gadjah Mada probably still the best by a long way, then take your pick of the rest of T7. Edit: Fushun at T6 with a 12 point captain is very strong as well.

In lower tier?

A bit less than one ship per battle? Am I missing something?