MrWastee

... so, after getting le terrible from a crate last x-mas i tried it out... and hated it 1st off. but that's over now lol. after last patch this thing just became.... a thing ! awesome speed, awesome handling, awesome range (4 a dd), awesome ap..... that thing is so... thingie ! i just humbled over one question: with introduction of french dd's we gonna see more and faster speedboats afaik. so, after experiencing myself how powerful speedtanking can be on range, what u think about ships with like 50kts.+? i can remember when khaba's speed was a concern to quite some, but tbh, le terrible tops her imo in many regards. as for me, i really don't like this new style getting wide-spread* (as much as i love to execute it )... in my experience the only direct counter is a cv/rocketplanes (AA is kinda non existent)! *could be coz speed also ruined another pvp game i used to love the other note: le terrible, dang gud boot, getget'n fly

someones drunk?! sry, i don't get it lol... but if that goes in the direction: load fire, load fire to lose weight 'n go faster i only can say: bl**dy brilliant

...following up his suggestion, is there any way it could make sense anyway?! ah, if there' wasn't teamdamage. also op, it's a figure in regard to early capping engagements. thus, torp reload is relevant from matchstart on. all fine there in my book... edit: ...must resist... AAAAAH... well, they're not loaded coz one just croessed the border into the next match and the guns still reload from the last one

we def'o need double postratings.... *angry* *funny* hrrggghhnnnnn

E X A C T L Y !... so, we may can exclude now cv's from the discussion, as we're through with them in that regard? i mean, wouldn't it be nice to have a thread NOT about cv's?!?!

yee.... sure, all so dead, i just feel sooo tricked *sigh* could u now get off dat cv thing and start posting on topic plz? thx! (3 weeks of "dead" speedtanking in current "cv-heavy" meta...note, i use hydro on hiv...:) Henri IV X 10 80% Super Unicum 2 932 Super Unicum 145 584 2.6 4 Le Terrible VIII 13 76.92% Super Unicum 3 612 Super Unicum 70 758 1.54 0.31

well, if posttime=matchtime it must've been this morning?!... and i bet all those dd's q'ed up as dd's coz they were like "hey, it's morning, there're no cv's on yet"

i wouldn't hold my breath, nor would expect em for premiums. last time they said something about, afaik, been along the line "walk along, nothing to see, they're all fine, new gonna come when they come"... harugumo now already waits kinda quite some time?

talking to me there 'bout henri? can't recall actually, so if so plz point me on ;). as it stands atm henri for sure is far from being inferior to anything lol ... and that's coz of mixture of agility, range and speed? on top the guns and rof ofc... i'd might say so *smells pattern*

... will come back with game rework for release on vr .... aso, isa ja toitsch hier, upsies .... "kommt wieder mit überarbeitung des spiels für die veröffentlichung im virtuelle realität format" HODOR.... uff.

...not necessarily, as that dd is more flexible in regard to matchprogression? see, we won't solve this here and i really not want this to become another cv discussion (more than ngh of those around....). from my very personal experience over the last 3 weeks i can tell: it's not that much of a problem! hence this thread.

let's be honest.... against "good cv's", goin on big-E, kaga or woatnot, rolling slingshot after slingshot so to say, there's nothing atm which can go toetotoe with, aye?! on the other flank there's 2 german bb's close together, both sporting good AA and kinda "in the push". between those it might even be a fun match to play hehe. and if le terrible was taken out so easily, why i could sport such stats in it over the last 3 weeks in current cv heavy meta? i see the points and i kinda "know they're right", but i didn't feel em so to say.

that's the point so to say.... - that 1st pic could go as mispositioned? i mean: it's a le terrible at matchstart on a cappoint. ever tried that in a khaba?! woat could go wrong?!?! .... emphazation on "played out right"... i'd gone the other flank in a le terrible - nope, it not seems to me. there are already bait-boat stlye ships ingame. le terrible just tops them in any way, simply coz (on it's tier even more) it's thaaaat fast and a dd... a big-fat-belly dd maybe, but still. smoke not really saves a dd from cv's or radars, in the best case it just buys some time and leaves u even more vulnerable if u use the smoke for attacking (fighters to spot after fade, upclosing ships while dakkadakka from smoke and such). indeed i'd say speed and agility are the way better variant to deal with both. coz u know u gonna get seen, u fight on maxrange and most radar cruisers at least doesn't fit your maxrange with their radars (option to run 'n go dark) and/or have really bad arcs to hit u on ur maxrange... with a concealment of 6.6 also dd's won't get to close to you, simply coz u gonna spot em a sec later thx to speed or simply can outrun their concealment advantage the other way. in this sense, speed is a weapon so to say lol. keep in mind that not every single cv ingame is a kaga or a big-E, takes the time to chase a kiting terrible or is a unicum on dd bloodthirst (dmg is farmed elsewhere). neither are they encountered in every match. yes, they are the "hard counter" imo, but from my last 3 weeks and 12 matches in le terrible i just can't see that they "destroy the style" in any way. indeed nothing i crossed those 3 last weeks, xcept for my own mistakes, nade me feel this ship is weak in any sense. it rather is a monster that would be totally op imo if it got a heal f.e.. i think i'd called it balanced, but let's see how that gonna work out when people start to play new french line for its strenghts...

just 4 the record: i do agree, kinda the only real counter IS a cvs' rocketplanes if the french toast is played out right (goes for both ships in this sentence ofc). which leads to the thing with the kleber and the simple fact that, as much as i get drunk from le terribles speed, as much i do see a problem in releasing a whole line of such warp 9.+ ships. even more in light of recent buffs to le terrible (which it needed sadly). - good range for gunboat on t8 - workable torps, exceeding concealment - godlike speed - good agility - after buff really workable armor . really good firing archs after buff - killer AP below 10km on broads (ask "that henri" or edins and such ) ....downside: weak AA (up to non existent). which can be worked with (mostly). i tried it, i love it and it kinda scares me to soon tm have a full line of these lol.

well yeah, big-e might be a different thing. luckily it's not encountered too often, nor giftened with too many skilled captns ^^....guess i might take mine out shortly to drop the stats lol

well, as for me, i do not have real problems with cv's yet. mostly they pick other targets, i can get quick ngh back into AA cover or simply dodge most of their loads. with the speedboost and a bit of brain that's really not too hard to do. sure, if a cv wants u dead he's gonna get ya with time, but the options on this ship i like a lot better than hide/smoke recently. 4 sure hide'n smoke not really is that of a smart tactic ("stand-alone" like) with new cv's either. but for an AA-lowboat i really didnt feel the pain in the last weeks like on any other AA-lowboat. if it is like it sounds it most probably gonna get changed b4 release i guess. khaba-style is the word.... while it even has more options imo due to overall better edge-pts (xcept for the heal and the raw gun dmg).

BUFF

that's a wrong assumption afaik! chatbans might work that way, but for afk'ing there's an automated system in place as well, which (afaik!) simply notes if one loads out of the battle while avatar is still alive. there also must be kind of tolerance time implemented, as on a simple ctd one can load back into a match. i'm not sure though about when u ctd/dc and load back in after match finished. afaik in such a case one would get pink. in short: it's not about the reports only. also, i absolutely not want my gameclient to check my system for reasons of fails. simply because i'm dead sure that would require to transmit more information 'bout my system than imo a "simple" gameclient should get from me! on top, it would require a post-judgement by the server about my dc, as in case of a sudden dc the server would've have no clue 'bout the reason connection got cut and would have to wait for the client to come up again.... that's a lot of pending processes/logs.... yeee... guess not...

loltopic.... if u can't maintain integrity of ur hardware it's ur fault. on a sidenote: it not even has to be ur personal fault to be legit, simply because no matter how u try to screw it, with one booting out of match for whatever reason that team is in a disadvantage. and thus there are pneutral punishments for leaving battle, as there simply could be nothing else than simple measures in place. u leave battle early 'n alive u get punished. simple. also, how in hell wg should rknow if someone botted out, cut the cable, melted his pc or woatever? from a technical viewpoint, plz explain how that should work lol?!

did i post that or just dreamed i did?! ....or just go on. buff it. plzzzz rofl

that popcorn.... is spoiled

in dem für tarnung. von daher sollte man sich auf vermehrtes feuer in jeglichem sinne einstellen. aber um eben das aufzufangen is das modul ja auch da ;). full survival build ticken die so um die 28 sekunden >)... zao, moskva, yama, monti, henri, GK... alles, zumindest für mich, verifizierte "must have" upgrades die mir auf anhieb einfallen.

longest win streak: 21 matches on tirpitz.... so wut?! u lose on a ship just play another one and get back later. from my exp u gonna lose on and on if u go for a win tryhard.

from my experience, and i'm far from being a master in any sense with new cv's, it's bloody easy on bigger targets. make it like a few matches of practice and there u go. also, well..... look at the game, and the overall implementation of new cv's ingame and tell me with a straight face the introduction of immunities do good for the game lol. the simple fact itself is and will stay a big nono in any game not depending on buff/debuff system 4 me! and we not got such in here... and even in games with such a system, as for me, i see no place for such!

eeerm.... wer sagt denn überhaupt, dass es ein problem gibt, das in irgendeiner weise über den "normalen" grenzwerten liegt, bzw. wer kann das denn überhaupt erfassen?! egal wieviel wir hier auch schreiben, es lässt sich hier werder erfassen noch eingrenzen noch irgendwas. wer sagt denn hier schon wieder, dass das nich ausreicht bzw. dem anspruch gerecht wird? meines wissens nach is es nach wie vor realtiv einfach nen chatban zu bekommen, abhängig von reports und qualität der verstösse. oder eben weitergehende massnahmen nach beleg. und wenn es dich stört wie sich mancher verhält ist es wohl ganz genau das, deine aufgabe im gegebenem rahmen zu reporten! nein, ist es nicht. v.a. nicht auf grundlage einer wie hier gemachten völlig subjektiven behauptung (vermehrte reports, class-blaming, etc.). ich kenne das von vor dem rework, in bezug auf cv's und auf jeden auch dd's. bzw. sind HE spammer da auch recht beliebt.... wie willst du denn bitte zu einer verbesserung der situation, sprich des verhaltens der spielerschaft im allgemeinem (weitergehend: der menschheit im netz) beitragen bitte?! mein problem ist eher ein thread, der behauptet weil er jetz ma ne morddrohung von irgendnem choleriker-kind in nem onlinespiel bekommen hat (willkommen im club) und noch irgendnen zusammenhang zum rework versucht wird herzustellen (weil das ja jetz viel öfter passiert...), müssten irgendwelche maßnahmen ergriffen werden. in einer zeit der überbordenen anzahl von cv-irgendwas-threads, 80% nutz- und sinnlos..., und v.a. ohne irgendwas direkt zu dem thema beizutragen. und dann noch die absolut gerechtfertigte verschiebung auf die bühne zu hieven... nein danke. weder die te's, noch die ausführungen bringen mich auch nur im ansatz zum schluss irgendeiner dieser threads hätte irgendeinen konstruktiven sinn! wäre man da mit ner anderen perspektive, nem anderem titel und einer für mich nachvollziehbaren verknüpfenden logik rangegangen würd ich das vielleicht anders sehen, aber sorry: davon findet sich für mich nich viel... in kurz: mit nem anderem titel von anfang an, bzw. einem anderem fokus vielleicht. so wie hier im verlauf: neeeee.