MATREKUS

Its normal mate. Games are (at least for us, working adults) a place to vent. I never take any "insults" seriously. Most ppl saying those words would probably be the nicest guys around in RL, with whom I would drink a beer in a pub. Get over it its a game. I would mind if someone takes it serisouly and talk like that (for serious) in mano to mano conversations. its all good

I think Blyska has better concealment even without any perk crap on and better range of the guns plus I think more guns counts more than slightly less ROF...And those guns deal a great damage, wouldnt say less than Mahan.

177 votes for "I laready boycot" and nothing happnes. It seams more are buying those stupid overpriced bundles than posting here and voting hehe blah let them be....for time being....

Is there a reasonable answer? Anybody knows? Because of moneydrain bundles? Really??

I dont agree. Judging the DD on sole experience with torps is kinda off...Blyska is right there with best t7 ships...

The point I wanted to make (in my poor english) is (in short): Decision of selling just bundles doesnt have sense even if we look just for the profit. Less money they earned by selling bundles than they would selling solo ships. It would be a massive amount of players buying single ships, surelly more than how many purchased bundles. At least I think so. Also you need to count a massive No of players who just cant afford bundles and who would save for single ships and eventually would buy them...or would buy them via purchased doubloons. BUT. If they are getting more income via bundles then its simple. They just dont care about EU customers who cant or wont spend moer money but at the same time they offer RU market the possiblity to buy single ships. So they dont see all customers as equal which would ofcourse, in some other industry - be sanctioned.

Vice versa. With possibility of buying ships alone in the store or via doubloons, more cash would come in since MORE ppl WOULD BUY premium ships. See. Simple. The only reason might be that western EU customers are swimming in money (at least compared to CE, EE and RU customers) and buying bundles like they are popcorns, so here doesnt matter but on ru market they sell ships in store separately, with reason.

That doesnt make sense. I PAYED with REAL money for doubloons. The only reason would be they want to force ppl to spend MORE money for ships via bundles.

Thanks for teh explanation. So we have Kiev which is excellent and very fast hunboat with good and fast guns and Blyskawica which is multirole destroyer with decent speed, concealment and solid guns. Well it seam I will get Blyska one day. Hope there wont be a stupid bundle.

Kiev has 12.3 km max range, with range skill its 14.7....9km detection range and with camo its 8.5..firing guns conc is 12.1km..so its definitely not 1.59 of room...its 2.6km! And the Kiev is almost 4 kts faster and more maneuverable. 1.1

Giving up for what exactly? Im just giving my opinion. I get it. You spend a littel fortune on it. Its a great ship but overall Kiev is better. Only and only area where Blyskawica si better is concealment. That alone is not enough for me to be my fav between the two. Firechance is about the same for both with or without the demolition expert. The only big difference is speed (in favour of Kiev) and concealment (in favour of Blyskawica). Thats a fact.

Yes, then "firing stealth room" is then almost 3km. However, with captain's range perk and concealment camo - Kiev also has almost 2.7 km of "stealth firing room". And we all know devs were thinking of deleting range perk (for guns up to 150mm) for captains skills. With reason. But like I said, Kiev would be my pick anyways, because guns are great and its very very fast. With speed consumable it can reach almost 46 kts!

Well only area where Blyska is better than Kiev is concealment. Gun power is slightly towards the Kiev (one less gun but more dmg with a bit bigger guns) with a slightly higher ROF. Kiev is also considerably faster and slightly more maneuverable (with perk even more). Torps are much faster (though only 4km range) in Kiev and lm not sure Blyska's 8km torps can reliably hit, intentionaly, with that pathetic speed. HP is also slightly better in Kiev (with upgraded hull). So Basically I would pick Kiev over Blyska anyday but Blyska would be also fun with all the concealment perks, for shoiting from stealth. However, its still not easy to do so, since you have like 1km of stealth and in intense combat one can find himself much closer to target, unintentionaly. Like I said, I would probably buy Blyska but not in a bundle and not since I hard earned Kiev through grinding...Oh yes, Blyska has a sexy camo if that matters....

Well, because of ppl like you, we will have forever those stupid expensive bundles.

Kiev is very much fun and the only areas where is weaker than Blyskawica are torp range and concealment. But Kiev is a gunboat while Blyskawica is good allrounder (both in destroyer and gunboat role). TBH I would buy Blyskawica but since its in a damn bundle, thers no way I would buy it...I know it was introduced mainly for the marketing reasons (big polish gaming community) just like ru DDs (big russian community) but it would have more sense if there were more polish ships in the game or if we could use it to train british captains...

Hey dont insult my hard earned Kiev ....grinding is the part of the fun because yo need to EARN the ship you want...Blyskawica is not much better than any t7 DD specially not better than Kiev... And like others said, I would maybe even buy it (to support devs or for teh sake of variety) but again, in a bundle? Noooope

nahh I love my Kiev I earned fun playing....

Torpedo upgrade gives you just more dmg per torpedo. Thats all. But the upgraded torps are much slower than the sotck ones (5kts). I never upgraded the torps. Anyway, guns are your main weapon in Kiev.

Wait a second, what are you talking about?? My friend is very very good WOW player and he said he is struggling with economy in higher tiers (8+). Repairs are just too damn expensive. Period... Thats why he also play low tier battles...

I bought Murmansk (I heard its fun) and 3 months of premium acc (month left). Since I will (soon) grind everything I wanted - I wouldnt be paying premiums anymore because of the reasons you validly pointed out in this thread. So its simple, just stop paying for what you think isnt worth it. Anyways we supported them with cash already, more than average player did. I never go beyond tier 7 because repairs are too expensive. And if they introduce expensive repairs even in lower tiers then I will just stop playing. But I think, then, I wouldnt be the only one. Simple.

Im not. Tashkent is everything Kiev is, plus it has much better hull (upgraded) and torps which can go 8 km (Kievs 4km)

Thanks. It has nice cammo thats for sure. How do you compare it with Kiev?

After a long working day and after taking care of the kids I was preparing to play some WOW and just found out I couldnt and that my payed premium day/night is gone. phew!

Kiev is a monster in good hands only, just like most of the RU DDs (more or less)..thats why they are so interesting...Dunno about Kiev but my turret dies too often in Ognevoy...

They are so balanced that my dead turrets are smiling now.