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With the values from RN CLs here's Hoods AA at tier 7, not including UP (1941) Hood (41) Range (km) Mounts DPS Max range Max DPS Vickers ‎12.7 mm Mk III 1.2 5 11 1.7 15 Vickers 40 mm 2-pdr. Mk VIII 3 3 59 4.3 78 102 mm/45 QF Mk XIX* 5 7 105 7.2 277 Total 175 370 Note: This uses Fiji 4" Mk XIX* guns (15 DPS per mount) and T7 Pom-Poms (3km range vs 2.5km at tier 6) Tier 7 comparison. Hood has decent long range AA but she's not covered in small mounts (good protection agasint HE spam)

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I think that's for tier 9-10 LC/41 guns? The curves are a bit rough but they give a good indication of how to use the AP. Don't try and citadel cruisers at 5km, use it against broadside superstructure/hulls at 8-12km. How much damage can a DD do to a broadside Yamato in 60 seconds, with AP at 9.3km? Result.

Do you really what to get within 5km of a high tier cruiser, pray they show a flat broadside and not shoot you? Real world difference is tiny. 128mm destroyer AP has a 21mm fuse, it's best used for penetrating superstructure and hull plating. Try spamming AP agasint broadside battleship superstructure at 10km. Larger, slower reloading KM guns are harder to use. They can be very frustrating, especially on the Hipper but 128mm KM DD AP is sweet

The destroyers are fine. Look at those wonderful damage figures when the shells don't hit belt armour. Always aim for centre mass/superstructure over trying for citadels

Edit: Maybe Ferrari is more suitable?

Does Mutsu have a dodgy armour layout or citadel hitbox like Warspite? You can citadel her with 6" cruisers at wonky angles.

There was lot's of salt from the Fiji's and Nagato in chat. Multiple Belfast's without a radar counter or massive 10km torp walls/spam can go anywhere and do anything uncontested.

Ranked MM is fair and balanced. (Had a few worse in Akatsuki, 5 Belfast vs a bunch of Yorck and Pepsi etc)

With 1700 HE alpha damage, 12 RPM and ballistics not far off the the SK C/34 (6-11km) they're well balanced per tier. 4 x Mk XII = Shiratsuyu 6 x Mk XII = Błyskawica 8 x Mk XII = Udaloi 10 x Mk XII = Gearing Moving to the 4.7"/50 Mk XI will be a bit like going from Edinburgh to Neptune. Higher arcs but better penetration, dispersion and damage. A specialist in AP deck pens at 8-10km? Can't wait! The 4"/45 guns are excellent, Black Swan is a beast. Here's a revised list of tier 6-8 RN, Commonwealth and Polish destroyers with a few extra details.

Ocean epicentre would be very interesting for 7v7 ranked match. Each team would need to be keep moving with no islands for protection agasint torpedoes/smoke cooldown.

Oh nice. Leave both options in like the T9/10 German battleships. Black could be a good pointer, like Flint was for RN CLs.

Something like this? Tier Standard (Torpedo) Torpedo progression Leader (Brawler) Gun progression Support (AA) AA progression 2 Laforey 2x2 Mk II Swift 4 x 4" Mk VIII - 3 Sabre 2x2 Mk V Parker 4 x 4" Mk VI - 4 Wakeful 3x2 Mk V Faulknor 6 x 4" Mk VI - 5 Ambuscade 3x2 Mk IX Scott 5 x 4.7" Mk I - 6 Hardy 4x2 Mk IX Codrington 5 x 4.7" Mk IX Obedient TBA 7 Venus 4x2 Mk IX* Eskimo 6 x 4.7" Mk XII Caprice TBA 8 Jervis 5x2 Mk IX* Musketeer 6 x 4.7" Mk XI Battleaxe TBA 9 Barfleur 5x2 Mk IX** Nautilus 10 x 4.7" Mk XII Gael TBA 10 Daring 5x2 Mk IXM Meteor ?? Tobruk TBA

Here's my latest take on Tier 7-8 destroyers (3 lines)

Great idea.

The idea is to create large walls/corridors for your team to move through, mainly for island hopping etc. You loose 15 seconds for 3-4 extra puffs at tier 7-8. Not a huge loss. Is it worth it? Who knows... Maybe you'll see me in ranked creating massive smoke walls with my Sims

Yep. All tier 7 destroyers are fantastic but Akatsuki could be the best agasint Belfast infested meta. High speed to get into/out of flanks and out of radar range. Shiratsuyu and Mahan get punished when caught out by radar, they just can't turn away fast enough. All destroyers have a 8.5km detection agasint Belfast. Fast reloading 10km torpedoes to overwhelm hydro cooldown. Belfast/Fiji have 18.5 seconds to react to Shiratsuyu torp walls with sonar, more than enough for a good player to get clear. Akatsuki can fire 3x3 type 8 torpedoes every 55-60 seconds with captain skills. (Akatsuki = 38 type 8 torpedoes in 240 seconds, Shiratsuyu = 37 type 90 torps in 240s with TWO consumable activations) Full IJN 2x3 gun layout. 4 guns at the rear combined with high speed means you can kite like a boss, set fires and brawl with other destroyers. Leberecht Maass has also been surprisingly good.

I think they're a great addition to the game. More need to be in Slot 1, 3 and 4. The rest are jammed packed with all the good stuff. These are the only two I've tested. Engine boost Modification 1. It's OK as the only slot 3 equipment, trying it on Shiratsuyu at the moment and meh it's fine. Smoke Generator modification 1. Awesome, Perth can spend over 2 minutes in sneaky smoke now! A high tier US DD with this equipped would also be great at setting huge corridors. Fun. Getting them in Supercontainers? No thanks, only if you can sell them for 2-4 million credits.

Here's my old test for different RN CL 152mm ammo types. http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/73741-ranked-will-be-dominated-by-these-two-ships/page__st__100__pid__1637293#entry1637293

Engine boost Modification 1. Gearing can hit 40 knots for 3 minutes with that equipment. RIP Khabarovsk!

I want the rank 8 weed generator for Perth. Then I can get of this grotesque Belfast **** train.

You've been able to do that with high tier US destroyers since release, although Grozovoi gets full on late 1950s AA. Akizuki = 220 dps @ 7.2km (would be 660 with defensive fire) Sims/Benson = 336 dps @ 7.2km Gearing = 445 dps @ 7.2km Fletcher = 525 dps @ 7.2km Neptune = 620 dps @ 7.2-8.6km (would be over 3000 with defensive fire!) Minotaur = 660 dps @ 7.2-8.6km Grozovoi = 828 dps @ 7.5km

That's always been the case with tech tree RN CLs, they trade spiky DOT RNG for consistency. It's a big loss for team battles (coordinated HE spam looks devastating) but less important for chaotic random/ranked. With IFHE and DE you can have both. Fiji gets better smoke with 0.6.1. You can activate it at 26 knots for a nice big bloom. Belfast still needs 20 knots for guaranteed concealment.

Emerald is fine at tier 5, you don't get torpedo power like that until Neptune. Arethusa only has a 57mm belt, beginners will get punished even harder. Swap them around when the second RN CL line comes. Tier 5 Arethusa = Smoke, sAP and 3x2 6km torpedoes. Small and squishy but stealthy. Tier 5 Emerald = HE, 4x4 10km torpedoes. Squishy but a tier 5 Kit Kat.

I tested out the different RN CL 152mm ammo types agasint a heavily angled Gneisenau a while back. Scenario. How much damage would they do at 8.3km over 60 seconds? Results. Conclusion.