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Zara will be tier 7 now all the other early 30s CA have been moved ...and they'll get a crazy new consumable (AOE heal, radar blocker etc)

No tears in chat for me yet (and I usually run a full secondary brawler build with the hydro mod ) 4.2km ship detection is rubbish agasint smoke cruisers now you can proxy spot at 5km and it doesn't give you enough time to kill a destroyer before they blap you with torps. Crap rudder shift means you can't dodge much, torps do more damage when they hit and your down 10,000 HP should you survive. The spotter plane is miles better for detecting ships/torps when you yolo in a BB. The only good thing about DoY is the occasional ability to delete Hipper/PE with AP (Turtleback and normal angling does little agasint those ricochet angles) ...but honestly the silly HE is more consistent and KGV has that stupid OP 25s reload. (They should be tier 8) At least DoY is better than Monarch

DoY has been heavily nerfed to get those US CA ricochet angles and (fairly useless) stock t7 hydro. I think WG forgot to change many soft stats back after trying to turn her into a cruiser. 1 less heal (worth ~10,000 HP!) slower rudder shift, less torpedo protection, etc. You'd have to be crazy to buy DoY when KGV is free.

Apart from people loling around in Shimakaze high tier destroyers have never been popular. Personally I'd remove radio location from the captain skill tree and use the code (always on arrow pointer) for designated 'radar DD hunter' ships.

I'm sure they meant the 1898 ship Argonaut, a Diadem class protected cruiser, not the Dido class CL.

Lesta spent a lot of time modelling and testing Russian guided missile destroyers before adding British battleships, that should tell you everything. It's a Russian game for the Russian market ...but when British ships get added they're usually very good.

Nelson has an extremely high skill ceiling. It's almost unsinkable with a min/max captain and a player who knows how position and angle agasint 15"+ AP. Downsides? It's boring compared to speedsters like KGV (even better at burning the world down) and Hood (just as tanky)

Mad props for arguing Ibuki is well balanced agasint Kronshtadt, that's going in my sig From a pure game balance perspective Kronshtadt is retarded as a tier 9 cruiser, nerf the HP to 50,000 atleast.

Kronshtadt has 3150 more HP than Lion. It has 53,588 more HP than Ibuki when comparing min/max builds. Ibuki has 140mm pen at 15km with a 15s reload. Kronshtadt has 450mm pen at 15km with a 18s reload. It's not even close to being a cruiser, as a BB it would have functionally identical armour to Iowa.

Farragut is epic but destroyers are horrible to play now MM is flooded with Cleveland/Baltimore and CVs. It's only going to get worse. Just play BB.

Nelson is 32mm everywhere apart from the bow/stern.

You want to move battlecruisers like Hood, Kongo, Amagi and the rest to a cruiser slot with cruiser consumables? From the posts I've read everyone wants Alaska and Kronk with tier 8 BB matchmaking, nationality has nothing to do with it.

Yeah that's my point. Spee gets matched agasint Pepsi. That's balanced and fair, Spee's only a tiny bit bigger by 6000 HP (one well placed AP salvo) Kronshtadt gets matched agasint ...Baltimore, Ibuki etc. WTF?? So, why does a Battlecruiser that's similar to a battleship of the same era (Iowa) take up a cruiser slot? Ibuki has 39,000 HP and Kronshtadt has 71,050 HP btw, add healing and the difference is utterly retarded.

Huh, Kronshtadt is what 45,000+ tons and 250m long in game? Spee is only 15,000 tons for comparison. No idea why WG gave them cruiser MM, then again tier 9-10 has gone full retard. Can't wait for RN/KM tier 3-7 BCs though.

They really should reduce Fletchers torpedo reload or buff all other DDs to the same reload/damage curve, not just Gearing (and T-61)

Don't hesitate to use the AP when your HE shells shatter. It's really good for... BBs already on fire, Umikaze seal clubbers (HE shells shatter on large parts of the ship) and yolo tier 3 cruisers you can citadel regardless of angle. Vampire has great AP too. 35mm pen at 10km when Shenyang and Izy only have 26-29mm.

Try the AP boys, you get alpha ricochet angles! (Aka none) Wipe out those Frenchie crusiers very quickly. HE is beta IJN napalm too, 1300 alpha and 6% fire chance on rapid fire pop guns? Holy.... I remember when you could burn down BBs from stealth. Tachi or Vamp as best sealclubber? Hmm tough one.

Roles are reversed at high tier, you shouldn't be trying to cap as a destroyer unless up against all long range snipers. Spotting is still the most powerful mechanic though, stay alive and provide those BBs with info.

DD AP is great agasint armoured BB secondaries.

Ahhh Tachibana, I forgot how good you really are. Your zero ricochet AP and incendiary HE rounds makes Akizuki blush.

Druzki is a torpedo boat and very different to a torpedo boat destroyer of the same era (7-10 times bigger etc.) Maybe it for a PvE event? We've had Schnellboots for Dunkirk.

Fair play, the wack job B hull will do that to a person.

A hull is the historic 1942 refit.

You get "The Last Conquest" and From the Bottom of the Ocean. aka "WTF, blue with white/red turrets..." or "Arizona at Pearl Harbour" No historic Type 10 grey camo.

So Cossack is getting the full Commonwealth treatment. All we need now is a famous Commonwealth Tribal destroyer that's celebrating its 75th anniversary this summer. Hmm.