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I grinded a German Captain to 19 points but I barely play German BBs now as they're fairly limited. You basically need to brawl as you'll lose meduim range shootouts with other same tier BB. They've only really got one game plan.

You basically have double the fire chance of an IJN Cruiser, as many guns and only 5s slower reload.

I play HE spammer Cruisers like the Atago and KGV is completely insane. RN BB set a new standard for HE spam and fire. It's arguably bad but that's what FP is there for...

I support this opinion and I've thought this way even prior to playing RN BB. KGV would have been great with decent armour, some AA uplift and the same 14" guns at T8. It would justify having powerful HE then, whilst I still like her at T7 it feels like a missed opportunity.

Very subjective topic... German stuff starting with Gneisenau gets very good armour and secondaries. But their main guns are a little weaker than the best of their tier, less accurate too. Don't be that Bismarck player camp sniping at 17km+. Don't overlook the two older BB lines. USN stuff is SLOW until T7 then they get good concealment, very good AA and some of the better main guns at T8 and T9. IJN BBs arguably have the hardest hitting main guns but they tend to be a bit squishy. Amagi is an excellent ship once you understand it. I've played German, USN and IJN right the way through from T3 to T10 so I've used them all extensively. I'm only up to Tier 7 in RN BB so I don't know what to make of them yet. I do enjoy the KGV however. Best thing you can do is download the PT right now and test ships yourself! Only way you'll really know.

HE cit vs a Neptune... Jesus I knew it was squishy but wow

I was a single win from Rank 1 and the game decided I needed to play Saipan. Despite me playing that entire season in a DD... I don't CV that well either so you can imagine the rage. We lost but i came top of the losing team somehow!

The KGV I got was on Two Brothers. I was South East and reverse bow camping. There might have been an NC but he was off to the east side doing his own thing. I'm waiting to play the Monarch as it seems up armoured yes. Shame as I'd rather keep a T7 ship over a T8 due to MM.

Yeah I get this too, no idea why it flicks around random ships in port after a battle...

Well it took WG something like two years to get rid of the message YOU ARE TEAMKILLER!!! And have proper grammar on the results screen. I miss the broken English...

Well I gave up the Duke grind half way as slow BBs bore me. Skipped QE too as I've played a Warspite all the way to an 18 point captain so I think I earned the right. KGV is a real BB with pace and pretty decent guns.

Aim higher, Duke can do nice damage vs BBs with AP but as you've said you may not get many citadel strikes.

I only use Warspite HE to smoke angled German BBs. Too many shatters otherwise. But no problems causing damage which is why I think WG could remove the extra penetration and the fire chance alone would still be strong.

Moskva will be a new captain although I might transfer this soon to be 19 point one over. Budy is good as you get to club mid tiers but I've got the Molotov for that. Problem is Chapy gets lol MM and Donskoi is so high up the tree that I might aa well just use Moskva. I'm thinking Chapy as I seem to have done really well in her. I've got a Kutuzov and a Molotov to feed so I need something lower than Moskva that uses IFHE to farm the captain...

It's only because I've hit Rank 1 in an Atago. You do need a DD to spot for you but the concealment is good enough to shadow your own DDs and give them decent support. The guns need a bit of practice and you're screwed if you miss yes. Also you can stand in as a bad DD if both sides DDs die off. Ranked is too knife edged to rely on just your brain, hydro gives you that extra helping hand and can be the difference between losing or gaining a star. I still use Atago the same in Random and the odd Haku still farms me but I try and chill in various AA bubbles. That's just my experience of the mighty Atago anyway!

HE becomes crazy when you're with Cruisers as the burn and direct damage is completely bat$hit. Anyone tried the Monarch yet? Wonder why it's fire chance is less than every other RN BB above and below her...

Maybe... Ranked might disagree with you as the Atago is an excellent DD hunter. Most torps isn't enough as one is enough to ruin that particular game for you. Besides if it's Ranked then just press escape and re equip Defensive AA if you see CVs in the queue. Zao would make sense with Defensive AA as you work at longer ranges.

Just saying RE the Warspite HE that it's under rated as few talk about it's power. Thankfully I skipped the QE. Nelson has the benefit of a large calibre so the sAP is almost a bonus vs most ships and you've got HE for stuff you can't pen. KGV deletes Cruisers better than any BB I've played around T7 with AP. But anything that bounces should be given tnt fire treatment. Whether pure HE spam is preferable I don't know personally but I like to pretend to look more skilled by swapping shells

Meh, it's probably WG's poor attempt at making BBs more varied and less dependant on AP. So they buff HE loads instead... They could just remove the IFHE aspect whilst retaining the Fire Chance and RN BB would still be strong. It's the lol when you can do 7k+ damage vs a BB AND get 2 fires.

Did you know Warspite actually has a very comparable HE to other RN BBs yet she has been out years and no one's really complained about her... sAP is perfectly workable, it's fine on Nelson and KGV as a primary shell type. I think the HE complaints is because other BBs simply can't angle vs RN BB as that's when the HE spam becomes viable.

Atago is one of the all time greats... Get Priority Targeting and Concealment Expert. Those 2 are key skills, although you'll need Expert Marksman too. NEVER trade with a BB. As soon as you're being shot at, you stop firing and slip into concealment. Don't be the first in as you'll get focused. Your torps are exceptional for a Cruiser as they have decent coverage and range, torping from stealth like a DD is entirely possible. Take Hydro instead of Defensive AA most of the time as you'll be needing it to prevent yourself being torped.

Warspite is an exceptional BB and QE was never going to be as good. Was a question of how close it would get. WG could never have given QE the Warspite rudder and probably not those super AP shells. Although Warspite is actually a very capable fire spammer and no one complained about her ever...

Tirp had a secondary buff recently so there is literally no need for a Bismarck unless you want a few more % extra AA and hydro. It's an excellent in game ship already and you'll be lucky to see any more improvements.

Ouch, good to know that it's useless...

Folk forget neither Naga or Colo are particularly tanky either yeah. Esp that IFHE crushes all T7 BB other than maybe Gnesi. You might find more players take Secondary Health modules if this HE spam keeps up!