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Könnten wir uns wieder den wichtigen dingen zuwenden?

Wird mal wieder Zeit die Reihenfolge hier wieder in Ordnung zu bringen...

I like this idea too. it's about time that the German Techtree gets a few post WW2 ships. Another candidate for such a ship would be the frigates of the type F120 alias "Geleitboot typ 55". Of course not on the T10, but rather in the mid-tier range.

I'm sorry but that's not a really serious argument? The naval base does not dictate the size of future WoWs ships. And when such a large ship drops in the first dock ...

Still not really convinced. With only 180mm belt armor, I can't really picture her as a BB. Because the Hindenburg as a hip successor design, like Roon, doesn't make sense. Wargaming would still have to dig deep into the gimmick box so that they can be placed in the harbor like the Prinz Eugen.

Bitte schön:

Jetzt sollen wir uns auch noch Namen ausdenken?

Let's see: Stalingrad 42.300 ts Puerto Rico 49.091 ts KW45 Design 45.000 ts Data from Stalingrad and Puerto Rico can be found on gamemodels3d. So I don't quite understand your statement about the KW45 design. Unfortunately there are enough people who would be fascinated by it... It would have to have a lot to offer to be preferred to the Prinz Eugen. With their 21 cm guns, I don't see them as a BB but rather as a cruiser. And how should they differ from the premium ships? That's the first time I hear this. There are also called "Handelszerstörer" designs and not just the D and P-class cruiser: Looks like that with me too. From T8 on I would switch to 30.5 cm guns. On T9 something like Ähhgier would have been offered, but it also came as a premium. The Munich just doesn't belong on T7, just as a Type 1936A destroyer is not for T9. Wargaming is not interested in that. I can also imagine the Zenker cruiser design on T9 very well. Visually, the Hindenburg is for just such a garbage design as Roon. The Paolo Emilio also came into play as a DD so I think that the Spähkreuzer will also come as a DD.

Setzte hier mal den Schlusspunkt.

Das glaube ich nicht

Nicht ganz...

Aber erst wenn die Reihenfolge stimmt

Genau

You shouldn't always believe everything WG tells you. All of the preliminary drafts by Scharnhorst that I know do not have the slightest resemblance to Odin. Here is an example of such a design: As you can see, there is no longer the lowered aft section. Lesta probably copied this from the original design as a 2x3 Panzerschiff: Since no 30.5 cm Triple Turret fits into the hull of the Scharnhorst, it cannot be the same. The diesel engines are also nonsense because turbines were already provided for the original 2x3 Panzerschiff design. And for the secondary guns, check out the original plans. That was the typical German line-up, but Odin sometimes differs significantly from it. That doesn't fit into this series of designs at all. If you deal intensively with this topic, you will quickly find that Odin is not a pre-Scharnhorst. WG cannot share what they don't have. A typical statement about numerous design decisions made by WG. My opinion: as long as WG does not show us any plans, whether for the Odin or the gun turrets of the Kurfürst, I don't believe a word of them.

@TomsonPRD Nice Work. A little note about Odin: this is also a Lesta design. There is no template for them.

Und ich kann auch nicht hopp...

Hallo ihr 3 vor mir...

Da hätten wir so einige: Vickers Armstrong, Newcastle-upon-Tyne: 10 Helgen (Länge der drei größten: 305, 275 und 240 m) Cammell, Larid & Co., Birkenhead: 6 Helgen (größte 305 m lang) und 5 Trockendocks John Brown & Co. Ltd., Clydebank, Glasgow: 8 Helgen (größte 290 m lang) The Fairfield Shipbuilding & Engineering, Goven, Glasgow: 11 Helgen (größte 275 m Länge) und 16 Trockendocks (größtes 273 m Lang) Swan, Hunter & Wigham Richardson Ltd., Wallsend-on-Tyne. 21 Helgen (größte 275 m lang) Angaben gemäß Siegfried Breyer. Also wir könnten schon einiges Bauen wenn wir dürften...

Daran hat sich nichts geändert. Die Iron Dukes sind abgerüstet und warten darauf dem Wertstoffkreislauf zugeführt zu werden.

Ich bin mir da sehr sicher

Echt mal sowas geht gar nicht...

Ok das wusste ich nicht.

Du meinst doch sicherlich die Seydlitz? Dieser Name war aber schon an einen Schweren Kreuzer vergeben. Den hätte eine H-Klasse sicher nicht bekommen. Was spricht denn gegen Friedrich der Große? Der Name passt eigentlich ganz gut wie ich finde... Die alternativen Entwürfe von 1940 sind zwar verbesserte Designs, sie lassen sich aber nicht wirklich aus dem Entwurf H39 ableiten. Variante "A" war immerhin 7m kürzer (Länge auf KWL 270m), Variante "B" sogar 10m länger und 2m breiter (Länge auf KWL 287m, Breite max. 39,20m). Zudem gab es noch einige andere Unterschiede (z.B. 4-Wellenantrieb u.ä.).

Nein man ging zum Drillingsturm über weil man es wegen des VV musste. Zudem war man mit diesem wohl nie wirklich zufrieden. Das hat nichts mit höheren Kaliber zu tun, das trifft lediglich auf Scharnhorst/Gneisenau zu wobei die 28 cm hier eine politische Entscheidung waren. Ich kann da ehrlich gesagt keinen Unterschied feststellen