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Hello BB skippers, When i was new at this game, I was struggling to find actual repair costs of ships before reach it and play it once. if i collect this stats, i think it would be very helpful to people who looking for exact same stats especially if they haven't premium account. So they can decide their advance through the tiers. I am going to edit this first post with my best ability. If someone would like to help my endeavor, my welcome to him. If we will have complete database and if one moderator could pin this topic to first page, it would be most appreciated. USN Line: Tier 6: New Mexico: 41200 silver KM Line: Tier 8: Tirpitz: 78500 silver. IJN Line: Tier 9: Izumo: 165000 silver. Tier 10 Yamato: 243900 silver

I had enough of this game I am quiting. Enough this rigged RNG which suddenly in match in rows, your everyshot a citadel, after your time fun now its time to suffer your everyshot become overpens or entirely miss. Same goes for MM suddenly your are starting win matches even not you are doing any sh*t, after your row of winned matches, ready to lose matches no matter what are you do. Somebody honestly can say i am wrong? That's not happening to you? Enough of this shady casino business. I lost my hope. And i am sorry to spend money and most of the importantly my time. Put every swear here WG in proper fashion. You are disgrace of my kind. Software engineers. I am shamed because doing same work to earn my live. At least i am doing honestly despite you WG. Dont pay any penny this game not worth it. I hope one day will suffer because of what you are doing.

http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=03873734482848194131 Just watch this replay people. I'm furious now. WTF we can do against this pre set matches? Evade torps get citadel, not evade get torped. I tired to be spotted entire match. It's enough already.It's has to be stop right now. Who is giving answer no for poll, are you enjoying from this pre set matches? Dont you want equal balanced, fair real challenge? I demand official answer about this issue. Tell me WG its intended or not?If it's not intended what you gonna do about this? I'm holding my expanses on this game and believe me its considerably much, if its not properly solved. It's torture. Not experience or fun. Enough of this BS: Did i myself clear WG?

Izumo's secondaries actually can do decent damage. As you can see in screenshot it can did approximetly 17K damage especially if you consider this ship actually has stock hull.

BB class is the most depending class to other classes. If nobody spot these DDs how can a BB stands a chance against to threads. If a Shimikaze, Fubuki etc. enter the 6 km range and still undetected, fired full salvo of torp carpet, how can i evade from this full spread? Someone which never played a high tier BBs can say when you are detected there is a DD, you must evade with arrogant way. These tricks works until to Tier 7. My ship concealment is 19.3 Km!!!!. It's not bloody New Mexico with 14.2 Km concealment. Heck even NM has 12 guns with better chance. I am mostly detected entire match. How the hell i can say there is a dd nearby? As i am detected, i am death already. Maneuver to evade torps pretty much means got citalled or burn to death. How i am supposed to shoot any damn thing if i am maneuvering cont. with my pathetic turret speed!! Even if i want to change my course, i have 17 second rudder shift time even with module, exactly needs at least one minute to turn my ship fully even with ideal speed to do that, You must not go at full speed, must evade shells, angle, vary your speed by of 'some of master adviser suggests'. Just spray my turning radius your 15 torps,That's it. You have one minute window of oppurtinity to that. What's the distance to componsate this time? I bet not even close to his concealment range. CAs are doing mostly piss contest with BBs and dying. Why? Because there is a DD front of them and keeping them permaspot.So they cant use their concealment when they were stop firing. Even most of them not smart enough to use that for maneuver or retreat. Of course they gonna hit by a BB eventually.When they are doing full turn, they are literally sitting duck for BBs. Because refusing to do their job. Then whine about BBs are one shotting them. Compedent CA skippers can easily evade most of the shells if they are not close 10 km. And burn you to death or torp you. Most of the time, i am the one who sink the DDs after lost my 3/4 HP. There isnt any team play, objective and duty WG. Balancing things base on that idea, is not working. Understand this.

Today one of those days 4 DDs on each team. My fu*k brick Izumo can evade a torp even if i started to maneuver when the torps 6 km away. I literally had enough of this BBs rudder nerf and DD carpet torps from all over the place. I am done with BB. Even CA cant handle the situation What is the worst, Tier 7-8 CVs can send you to oblivion even with CA AA support. We had a saying in our language ' It's the last drop which overflow a glass'

Thx for your comment. Also thx to my Greek friend kountouriotis_gr who liked my post. I also have one Greek friend .Met her when she came to Turkey for her master degree. And she can speak in Turkish like a native speaker. Greetings from Turkey.

I'm Turkish. I am doing my best to write in English despite my native language has entirely different structure. For us, speaking in English much harder than most of other nationalties. When i saw a foreigner, try to speak in Turkish, i am starting to smile, and it sounds sympathetic, even can not understand them sometimes . And if you ever visit to Turkey in future, my advice try to do not sound ' ammmmm'(i dont know its right pronunciation) when you are thinking, especially English speakers. It's mean women genital organ in Turkish

Mostly the RNG is causing the overpens. Just try in training room. Aim just below the waterline, in one salvo shells landing the water just front of the ship, one salvo going over the ship or landing superstructure. How the hell i can possible know where to aim if i am getting completely different results even at 6 km? Like shells want to land everwhere beside the ship i aimed for. Match in row getting good result with exactly same aim, match in row getting awful dispersion. How can you explain to me? Especially in Tirpitz, i am getting so bad dispersion, any damn shell cant land the ship sometimes. In my last match, Nurnberg at 6 km. Perfect broadside. I took my shot. Guess what happened? With good dispersion (blessing of RNGesus) 6 of my 8 sbells landed exactly where i wanted. All of them just overpened. And of course after few second he launced all his torps to me? Why i am bothering my self to drive a BB if i cant nuke full broadside fu*king CA at 6 km? It's BS as fu*k. Current condition dont angle your CA. If you angled like a pro, you are screwed.

Actually none of them was happened. We are all was pack. And CAs did everything to protect us. None of us had chance to do anything meaningful. Like i said, all of us was busy to evade this cross torps. They were even worst condition then us. Tight spread cross torps with stealth buff, even CAs couldnt escape.

Again you have just one Tier 8 ship in single tree with 46 battles in it and its a DD. Again someone is commenting who dont have any experience with high tier BBs whatsoever. Suprise? Maybe in future with your Tier 8 and above BB, good luck when against 4 DD with 10 or 15 torps setup. But for now as you can see you have no idea again. This topic's subject is not me. I want to learn your 'experiences' ( again true experiences) about this matter and learn your opinion as like other posts. And thx for these posts. Pls don't divert to another way. By the way that's what i am talking about. Regards.

Just compare your stats with mine and decide again about giving me lesson like sailing straight lines. Your top tier ships at tier7 and total 135 matches with it. You dont know even what am i talking about and wrote in first post.

Hello everyone, I am almost at half way of to both Tier9 BB. Amagi has 102K xp and NC has 34K xp. I have watched Youtube videos for both ships. Actually i am confused right now. On paper Montana has better armor thickness for citadel protection. But it seems to be its on "paper" etc. As like in the title which one i should go to first? It would be most appreciated if you explain your reasons. Sorry if i have grammer errors cause English is not my native language.

My list from top to bottom 1. RNGesus 2. Overpens 3. ' Magically' everyshots cause citadel damage BBs even you are angled. 4. Sixth sensed CA with incoming fire alert 5. DD platoons' coordinated cross drop carpet torp there is nothing you can do except paying repair bills. 6. There is nothing you can do against even tier6 carrier with Tirpitz maxed both skills and modules for AA. 7. Players which theirs only effort sinking ship, even cost of losing match, and pursue single ship to map borders with fleet formation. No tactical thinking whatsoever. Even you told them whay they are doing cost the match, their reply posts with ignorence.

Use to god like. Now getting citadel even you are angled, and regular 8-10k damage from BB shells are common when you are shells just ricochet.

I already got the Izumo after grind with my Amagi and first hull upgrade thx to Tirpitz for Free xp's. My intend was playing more Tirpitz game for more free xp to C hull and grind to Yamato with full upgraded Izumo. So far l collected 35k more free xp and 65 million silver. 30k xp to go i believe. Since the last patches, playing as BB became less fun and being painful. Suddenly appearing torp carpets thx to high number DDs nowadays, overpens against perfect broadside CAs and excessive RNG. I am literally chosing die to fire and HE spam, torp storm or when trying evade those, to BBs which they are waiting to citadel me. Thx i am not masochist.

I had enough with this RNG and overpen today. My every single landed all over the place except the ship which i aimed for.I am highly suspected that its ' as intended' One day landing perfect shots. After WG decides you had your fun now time to suffer. My shells are fighting with me to not land on ship. Some shells missing the ship from above, remaining shells landing to water just front of the ship. At 6 km full broadside beached CA. No single shell landing to ship. I am encountered with this situation enough already. I dont want erase this ship in one salvo. But at least one shell can land on this ship.Is this much to ask? I'm furious now. RNg is rigged. If they want to officially explain how is RNG working. I'm here with my argument. I 'm software engineer. If they want to explain technical way. Until i got enough feedback, BB is done for me. Regards to other skippers.

You are doing nothing wrong. If you mind just read this thread http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/41761-is-there-a-secret-bb-nerf/

Colorado is actually dreadnought. And have way better armor then Iowa. I can fairly easy put the citadel hits to Iowa. With Colorado your only chance ,if its even slightly angled, is plunging fire. And moneuverability Colorado again way better then Iowa.

One of the major problem both CA and BBs. In this situation as Kurbain said bad players are rewarded. +1 Also in my opinion, incoming fire skill should be removed. I am cont. monitoring in my game play, is there a incoming fire threat to me or not and taking action accordingly. Most of the time i can manage to evade most of the shells even with a BB even without this skill. If i can do it, CAs can easily do it so. This skill again reward bad players in tunnel vision mostly. Good players which monitoring for incoming fire are punished. The situation right now; Incoming fire!! Change your heading a little bit with short rudder or cut the speed. Eureka. You are safe. Even you dont have to know who is firing at you. Just watch one of the latest video of Flamu. How desperate the Tirpitz and Amagi skippers doing just overpens with few lucky shots. Lets think other way around, Expert BB skipper and newbie CA skipper. CA skipper showing its broadside wide open. Even BB skipper is doing perfect aligned and calculated shoot. This shoot going to heavily depends on RNG for hit to citadel, incoming fire skill. Even if he managed to hit citadel again depends on RNG whatever its just regular pens or actual citadel shot. High likely this shot going to be couple overpens or few regular pens without citadel hit. End up with mostly 0-5K damage or 9-10K regular pen damage if he is considerably lucky. If he is truly lucky one shot the CA. Then CA captains start to think that how BB is OP. Whoever are you being good BB skipper or bad BB skipper its too much depends on RNGesus. Just spray and pray. Let's roll back to video; The Amagi skipper after 4/3 of health melted to HE and fire, finally got a citadel hit but it was random and absurd. It must been disappointment for both sides.

I am continuously finding myself in position which defending entire wing by myself cause lemming trains and CAs which dying to DD torps. Most of the time i am dealing with DDs more then CAs. I'm good against to DD threat except Shimikaze's carpet torping. Competent CA captain can evade most of the BB shell even at 8-10 km depending on shell speed of BBs.When a CA showing his bow to you its another story, you can citadel (its very rare) or you can do 6-8k damage(fairly low change) or because of RNGesus most of the time completely miss. There isnt much you can do against good CA captain with your shotgun unless RNGesus blessed you. Once a while i can nuke a DD in one salvo even he is showing his bow at closing from 6 km when RNGesus blessed me. It far too inconsistent. I understand RNG is must. But not this kind of exaggerated rate.

ı already pointed this random nosense shells which cause citadel hit.. And also said its stupid. It's frastruating for both side. I agree the opinion of Kenliero there is too much RNG. as he stated the fact even against beached target you are doing overpens or no damage even with your perfect salvo. I am ignoring the insulting posts like Deckeru_Maiku. I am here to learn your experience and your opinions in constructive way. Childish posts doesnt interest me.Thx for the other posts by the way. +1 XTHD

Just look at one of my match results. What could i do more to win this match? Apereantly it wasnt enough. There is no flag just premium time again. I have a question for you guys. I love the Tirpitz but what mostly irradiate me with this ship wildy inconsistent shell spread. One match i was putting 4 citadel hit to Yamato just with one salvo (yeah you are reading right ). Next time i cant hit any damn thing or just overpen. Inconsistency is killing my fun. I'm getting noob yelling from my team. How is your experience?

In my opinion, Vigilance skill dont make any difference with this rudder shift time nerf. I was in a match with my mate which one shimi and gearing platoon at opposite team. He had pepsicola and i had tirpitz. He was screening DDs for me at approx. 3 km closer to enemies. he detected shmi 's torpedo wall. And as obvious i started to turn in as like hell. Guess what? In 15 seconds i was at battom of the sea he survived because of rudder shift time where he is even closer to torps 3 km then me. As you can see even if you see torp wall at 4,5 km away then you, doesnt make a difference cause nowhere to hide those Op number of BS. I am actually collecting captain skill points for concealment skill which my tirpitz both this skill and module would have 12,3 km concealment and if we add the camo it would be 11.8 km is pretty awesome for BB. When a cruiser captain suddenly saw a Tirpitz in that range. I would like to see his face

I gonna sell my original Kango. And get this one. You can save one ship slot more worth 300 dubloons. Look at that way.