Elenortirion

if you used your guns in continous fire exchange with USN DDs you were doing it wrong..... and no, isokaze/minekaze were nothing like KV tank and I say this from perspective of being on all receiving ends possible for both isokaze/minekaze ships and mentioned KV tank I wouldn't say "way outclassed" pretty much all bensons who thought that while engaging my fubu got sunk while still believing that they had the ultimately superior ship..... I heavilly disaggree my kagero is wrecking bensons quite often, against fletchers it fares ok enought, maybe you should checkout your playstyle on engaging gunboat as a torpedoboat IJN DD? ya know, you don't engage ship with superior guns in a head on CQC knifefight...... although I agree that the last thing IJN DDs needs are nerfs.... EDIT: to deal damage to capital ships you still need usually get past their destroyers, ya know

yeah something along the lines of WG fixing citadels without penetrating citadel roof, and breaking underwater pens on the way.....

on the other hand everytime I play in t8-t9 there is no less that 10 to 14 battleships in game, thats surely well more balanced right?

welp I think he didn;t mean to blame the supertesters or a change but was salty as some of them have claimed the IJN DD tree reshuffle as being a buff in the end, to which he does not believe I'll withhold my personal opinion on it effectively being buf or nerf till I'll have a chance to play the ships though [btw I now started to wonder what will happen when patch hits to stats of the ships? [ingame and on webservices like warships.today etc?] will they be counted as stats for new ships in their respective tiers, or will be preserved as "this were other ships" and we will start gathering stats on revamped tree from the beginning?]

as far as official info goes the only class with caps on amounts of ships per class in random battles re CVs OP claims to be a BB cap because he have waited as CV 5 minutes in the MM waiting for a match that had only 4-5 Bs per side and he somehow believes that his waiting time was anyhow related to numbers of Battleships

and have straightly lead to the situation predicted by people who were against it

you mean that bugfix on citadels that were not supposed to be citadel [shell exploding on the roof of citadel without penetrating citadel roof plating counting as citadel hit] that went wonky and people were quite loud on forums about overpens? or something so old that I don't really remember? as for BBs having issue due to their escorting ship going too far ahead to be of help - that's why imo instead of firstly buffig BBs to the level of being most versatile class, they should have focus more on encouraging and enforcing teamplay

actually the more I think on that screenshots of said single gameplay, the stringer feeling I have, that someone in the enemy tem have failed his job miserably - if that akizuki was indeed invisifiring whole match +bonus point on: come on - how the heck did that taiho allowed akizuki to catch him up xD

well if my memory still serves, akizuki class was developped from kagero class.... seems like they didn't cared much about this here

I feel powerfull in takao, yet my very own personal stats in that ship seems be denyign that feel while minekaze is good ship I didn't feel "overpowered" in her, at least - while still speaking t5 ships - not as overpowered as I did feel in kongo althought I still believe that minekaze fits torpedoboat line more than mutsuki and mutsuki fits split line more than main line.......

I can effectively HE spam a BB even at 14!

damn and you destroyed it he was supposed to list the sources by himself on a note, it's good to knwo that there are soem actually usefull data on that wiki, may spend some time there when bored....

BUHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA this is just as ridiculously irrelevant to whole thread as possible xD just FYI, my recent WTR is effect of my derpy adventures with takao class heavy cruiser trying to use my only t8 ship with secondaries to farm up secodnary hits for one of two arp ships I am still missing so if you want to bring up my WTR maybe first check which ships it is based on and which ships are in discussion [and yeah DEFINITELY my low cruiser WTR is that low because I never gave a frak to check all exact modifers on calculating chance to start fire against specific ship THATS DEFINITELLY A REASON ] [your whole two battles today was totally awesome, I totally regret I haven't screenshotted those few first updates of a day giving me superunicums for single well played win ] EDIT: still source of those numbers on tier based base fire chance, or I'll assume you've taken it either out of yer back or thats it's from source so unreliable that you are afraid of listing here [last official word I've seen on the matter WG folks have said that base fire chance is factor beign set uniquely per ship, not per tier per se by the way while at it]

I'd grab aft for that 14.4km range [and by thus bigger stealthfiring window] but soem prefer settign up fires more often

source or didn't happen [and yeah thats why current best firestarters are high tier ships ] and do you know what happens when your rudder gets knocked out when in turning position? do you know what citadel is? do you know what happpens when torpedo hits your ship? don't get me started on more advanced things like what happens to a CV bombers when they are under attack of fighters or in the range of cruiser with defensive AA barrage being on PS. even assuming your numbrs above are true, neither it means that I have "0 clue" on game mechanics nor even it directly oposes my sentence below - as I didn't say it does not affect it at all, I said that tier of the ship is not affecting it BY ITSELF and wording here was very carefully chosen because I was aware of alot of hidden[as in: not listed anywhere inside the game] factors taken into account when calculating final fire chance in which some could be somewhat derived from ship tier and type, and to be honest I never really cared about looking up if all calculating process is explained somewhere, as such knowledge could not improve my in-game performance by even a bit PPS. you may take a closer look on how you are writing down your calculations as from formal mathematic standpoint "5%*0,4515=2,2575%" is not correct statement

it's how it will work once a proper patch will hit, for the moment being it's all about a port of choice

can I steal this pic?

on higher tiers, people mostly learn to not show broadsides as a BB, and have enought of AA [mostly] for carriers being far from "nemesis" for them also usually at this tier BB players either are masters of WSAD hax, or are driving battleships that are nimble enought to minimalise damage from torpedoes and believe me - when comapred to cruisers, BB gameplay IS all roses

impossiburu, it seems that dem big guns [420mm?] does not care about angle at all.... I would have survived few of urfursts ohkoing me if they were not overmatching dat belt >.> it's slightly out of topic though as topic is about too much of BBs not BBs having too easy against cruisers..... yes! too many! can't angle against 6 BBs at the same time! [from cruiser perspective] NO! BRING MORE OF DEM! MY TORPEDOES NEEDS MORE FOOD! [from destroyer perspective] been too long since last match in BB/CV to tell how do I feel about this situation with them.... EDIT: same way as I was suggesting to deal with legendary "too many DDs on high tier" buff cruisers so they serve more interesting and FUN role than trying to farm any damage before BBs noticing you revamp CVs so they are interesting and will come back with reliable population on high tiers

no you don't have any of these on your carousel if you set any port that is not yokosuka [afaik] you will see other people playing haruna/takao as kongo/atago

number of fires would stay roughtly the same - tier of enemies does not affect chances of setting the fire by itself, although the direct shell damage could start being noticeable against lower tiers PS, please notice that this damage on your screenshot is mostly spreaded between t10 battleship, t8 battleship and t9 aircraft carrier any ship with decent torpedoes would be able to score much more damage MUCH FASTER to these ships than those fires would take and as for moment being this is only way akizuki can deal any real damage to those - unless you really want to play with aiming for that superstructure with ap shells...... and before you call out this as OP, please bear in mind that ship is slow, turns like a sluggish cruiser at best, and will have a problem dealing with anything that angles - especially destroyers

today, my takao has been citadeled by gneisenau.... would not be any kind of problem if not the fact that I was perfectly bow on to said gneisenau and he was closer than 11km from me instead of at 11km and I won't even start on what kurfurst is doing to her and at what angles >.> and thing is.... thats one of those "OP" cruisers I'm really scarred to think how others must be working like when "those OP" have such an issues..... so I'd say that cruisers needs a solid buff [direct or indirect] to survivability against BBs

ah kk thx, not as bad as anticipated then and barely any shell damage

or not get it for even 3 because of unknown external factor...

well those ratings as "stats" are not really helpfull and if they have put captain retrain info in the patch notes I had to miss it....