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Speed helps stay clear of cruisers, get away when a cruiser appears that might stray into your detection range, it helps reposition. And even if one can say "If you wouldn't misposition that's no issue", the mere fact you cannot as easily reposition reduces flexibility in positioning.

My Leander has an HE gun, my Ajax has an AP gun. They compared pretty decent pre-retrofit, now Leander is ahead, post-retrofit ajax will likely edge her out due to skills. Honestly, I'd say, it matters more what gun you are using than what ammo it fires. Might help:

I wouldn't care about BB AP in AL too much. Here, for modifiers: https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/List_of_Battleship_Guns https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/List_of_Heavy_Cruiser_Guns https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/List_of_Light_Cruiser_Guns AP helps vs heavy enemies, HE is more constant though and absolutely wrecks lightly armoured ships.

And how are you pulling that without exposing side?

Regardless of whether the whole design is good or not, saying that DDs at these tiers with 35-36 knots base speed and no engine boost are quick is a joke and all the acceleration in the world isn't going to provide the full utility of engine boost not just in accelerating but also in reaching a higher top speed. At the respective tiers 5-7, two cruiser lines can keep up with the British DD speed and a third can reach better speeds with speed boost (Emile Bertin reaches it without). And not losing speed in a turn is little consolation when other DDs could have just outrun the cruisers anyway and would thus have no need to dodge shells in that situation. No idea why you are trying to sugarcoat a weakness though.

Dunno. Never had that issue. Looking over my results from recent matches, I mostly lost like 1 gun mount per game. Only once lost 5 mounts, but in that game I got blasted by Tirpitz HE (questionable, I know) and an Edinburgh spammed AP into my side for a bit.

It doesn't have as good secondaries. It has better secondaries. Scharnhorst gets the typical combo of 10.5 cm DP guns and 15 cm anti-surface guns. The 10.5 cm have only 1/6 HE pen, so they basically can pen T7 or lower DDs, but will not pen T8+ DDs unless with IFHE. The 15 cm guns pen even 32 mm BB plating without IFHE. Gneisenau gets the 12.8 cm DP guns with 1/4 pen, which means they will pen up to 31 mm of armour, with IFHE they pen 32 mm. Where Scharnhorst's DP guns cannot pen some T7 cruisers reliably and fail at T8+ to pen anything reliably, Gneisenau right off pens T7 BBs, T8+ cruisers and DDs and with IFHE could even pen any of the higher tier BBs with no issue. Add to that that the guns fire fast. Just for comparison, the Scharnhorst basically has 8 10.5 cm guns + 4 15 cm guns broadside, which is basically Bismarck minus one 10.5 cm and one 15 cm mount each, which sounds good till you realise that on Bismarck the slow-firing 15 cm guns are the only thing that deals raw damage, while the 10.5 cm guns are basically just fire starting fireworks. Gneisenau gets 12 12.8 cm guns broadside, which can be compared to the only other German BB that gets these guns, Großer Kurfürst. And Kurfürst only gets 10 of these guns per side + 4 15 cm guns. So, basically you replaced 2 of the twin 15 cm mounts (7.5 second reload) with 1 12.8 cm twin mount (4 second reload). Kurfürst will slightly out dpm your Gneisenau. Slightly. Like, 279.4k secondary dpm vs 270k secondary dpm (for contrast, Bismarck is 253.5k and Scharnhorst is 183.3k, of which the majority falls flat as soon as they meet anything that isn't a T7- DD).

You clearly have not yet arrived in the post-factual era where scientifically proven data is not relevant, only feelings matter. Or as we call it, "alternative facts".

Just like in WoWS. But I see nothing wrong with that.

I mean even pre-buff, I pulled that crap vs Chapa and citadelled it with AP till it died. Harekaze stronk. This comes to mind

I have gunned down USN radar cruisers in my Harekaze. No smoke, only skill... or well, the enemy's lack thereof.

Oh, I do get the point. But it's wrong. Your main objective is not to not take damage and your main way of mitigating damage is not staying at range. I mean, you already realised, your bottom tier ship has less range than top tier typically, but even when not, guess who will win at range: T7 Nagato that has large accurate guns with enough penetration even at 20 km to reliably citadel BBs or a T6 Fuso that has shotgun accuracy and at 20 km will just bounce off higher tier BB armour? So, why the hell would you try to engage in a contest where the enemy has all the advantages? Fact is, no ship has concealment greater than range (thank goodness they did away with this folly), so most of the time you can still move closer and not be spotted. And guess what, ships that are not spotted don't get shot at. Next, your battleship has armour. If you use it wisely (so, don't just show broadside, but angle your armour), you have a far easier time surviving even when being shot at. Next, use terrain to minimise the directions you get shot at. Advanced strats, especially important for cruisers, but also good for BBs. Look at that minimap, make it large, try to gauge who can actually shoot at you and how you can avoid getting wrecked. And when you are up close, you might actually hit things and do damage aka pull your goddamn weight. 16k average in a Gneisenau is not pulling your weight and it is less pulling your weight than your 19k average in König, which is still bad, but better than your top tier BB. Disproving also that you somehow can do less in bottom tier than in top tier. The last thing you want to do with these ships is play at range. Goddamn what do you think the devs gave your ship 6 km torpedoes for? and yes, I know what I'm talking about, I played these ships, I have to date not purchased the range upgrade on Gneisenau (though I am considering it, because I got enough credits and there's no reason to not get it). Belfast sh!ts on Kamikaze.

I mean, it's basically two 6th slot modules for the price of a lil bit of range that Kurfürst rarely uses and can compensate for with spotter plane for the few times it does need it. Only issue is Kurfürst being a bit out of meta.

Remember space battles? Remember the Alldestroyer? Ever played that thing and encountered one of those storms that put your fires out after a second but lock your repair party? I did, because I tested IFHE Kurfürst in that event and holy damn, that no-fire effect was OP as hell. Just angle your ship and you don't really need a repair party because that enemy team is certainly not going to kill you with superstructure overpens alone before that storm passed and all you get is more AR to kill them faster. And lol at raw HE damage when you got 50 mm deck.

As brutal as it sounds, but frankly, I don't need to look at your stats to have a gist why you struggle to have impact in your ships when you argue that range of all things is the deal breaker. Go drive your battle wagon closer, please. You aren't going to be any more useful at max range than actually up front.

And HSF camos are not purchaseable, except for K117 - Yamato which still is a collection reward?

Half the Azur Lane stuff is overpriced garbage. Nelson is decent. I also got Cleveland because it still is a less offensive freedom camo than anything WG tries to sell as patriotic camo for the ship. But goodness, wtf is that Hipper?

Also millions of potential damage, unless you forget your hydro and steam into a torpwall. If you just keep your 60 mm lolbow towards where the AP comes from, it takes an insane effort to kill this ship even for a T10 and you usually die either because you potato or over half the enemy team focuses you down. I haven't felt this focused since I played Gneisenau and everyone wants the charging torp BB dead.

When you pick a container, you state a preference and you get a slim chance of getting a SC. That SC can be anything. Is it so hard to get with terms that maybe 50 camos are worth more than even 1.2k coal that would come from a triple coal drop? Is it that hard? Goodness, one of these days someone will whine about how they got a ship in their container when asking for signals or something, because "Whaaaa, why is this Arizona not another 3 Sierra Mike flags?!!1 Literally unplayable!!!" I'm usually not one to tell people they come off entitled (I leave that to @ColonelPete), but when people rant about SC. You really have no greater worries than WG gifting you 50 camos instead of an easily farmable standard container?

He complained that when he chose a container with bias for flags and camouflage "only" contained 2 signal drops out of three and one drop dared to be coal. Sorry, but containers are RNG and when you pick a preference, you basically pick what you'd like the drops to be biased towards, not what the entire content is. Then there's a complaint about the SC, which has random content regardless of preference selected. So, yes, it is half a rant about a SC drop. And no, he is not right. He still got from his container mostly what he asked for,

This is the second time I see someone complain about getting a supercontainer. That's like two times more than would be reasonable, imo.

Doubt it.

Hey, at least, they have normal ammunition (except the highest tiers). Only their smoke, hydro and lack of speed boost make them really strange.

How can you "take an engagement" when outspotted and it basically is the enemy party's initiative? I guess Giulio Cesare is not OP because it can blap your cruiser from 12 km away. Should not have taken that engagement. What? You didn't see it because it has less than 12 km concealment? Shame on you still for that. I guess take RPF next time or something. Ship is balanced.

They are still trying to deny the harsh reality of their impending doom, brought about by "Secondary and AA guns enabled". RIP But no, I have no clue how it works.