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3 points to get 11% more dpm on a SECONDARY armament. Which might as well be tertiary, because let's be real, if you brawl, the second most important weapon are the torps. In most games, the amount of damage you do with secondaries is a joke, while having some survivability perks in the build goes a long way. Personally, my Gneisenau build up to 19 pts would be PT, AR, BoS, AFT, Manual Sec, SI, EM. For ranked anyway (no point in IFHE in T7-only MM).

Of all choices provided, Fiji is the most solid. If you do pick Gneisenau, please pick BFT or SI, not BFT. It's a waste of 3 points. My personal choice for T7 ranked will be Hood though.

Don't have the time to look them up, but I think S_O dropped them in a QnA once. GZ is second best behind Hakuryu.

I actually have a high-level Curacoa, though I dunno when EN will get the retrofits. I hope there'll be more artwork of the two now. Noone seems to ever notice them. Also, new ship to be released on CN/JP: Royal Navy rarely if ever dissapoints. Surely it did not this time. Also, yes, I'm still alive.

How the hell did you survive Mogami that has basically the same armour module without a 30 mm deck? Like, apart from this deck, which reduces the amount of citpens you get, the Ibuki is a full on repeat, now with a repair party. As for the role of the ship, the ship is your typical IJN cruiser, using speed and concealment to get into positions from where it can farm people who don't pay attention or kite them, trying to dodge incoming fire. Ship can be played with range mod, which gives you some immense range, though personally I opted for reload mod to get actual dpm out of the ship, which becomes quite comparable to Zao. Also, it's nice having 19+ km range, but unlike Zao, your shells need way too long to get there, so I prefer to not bother and use spotter plane for the odd occasion where I want to shoot far.

Did you try running CE?

Swap DE for IFHE, swap BFT for BoS. BoS is likely more useful for survivability than SI, given you burn most games, far fewer you'll see through to a fifth repair party, in my experience with GK. Don't use secondary mod. Usually, you should run main battery mod and Legendary combines the two. Just like BFT, things that make secondaries shoot faster are hardly worth what they cost, because the main damage dealer at the end are the main guns, not the secondaries.

Welcome to German cruisers.

*sad Poi noises* Less firepower than Shinonome, about same in torpedo power. Barely better concealment. What a trash design. As I already told our clan leader yesterday, you don't want WG to implement your favourite ships. Chances are, they mess it up and the ship's nfuriatingly garbage or a pile of toxic gimmicks.

maybe No, the AP bombs will not get better with a better pen. they already have the second most pen out of all AP bombs. The issue is the flight pattern and we can only hope 5 degrees of normalisation helps there, to keep bombs from ricochetting off or penning through some upper deck but too shallow to ever hit a citadel. No. The current buff imo is good for bringing the torp bombers back to where theywere before speed nerf in terms of dpm. Any buff in lethality should now go to the dive bombers, as the current state of the ship, just like before, is that the torp bombers are the go-to plane type all the time and the AP bombers are just some utter niche plane you use when out of torp bombers or you feel like challenging yourself. it always was that due to the bad damage output per drop and being harder to line up than the torps and it has only gotten worse with the dive pattern "buff". And no, normalisation alone doesn't make it better, because frankly, the dive pattern fucked up more than what normalisation can fix. The new dive pattern also reduces time for aiming and at times shells don't even land within the friggin circle. Only WG thinks that this is somehow "useful" to have this fast a dive.

Tries to sell ship as "AA focused", but you think I'm stupid enough to not see the secondary focus? I approve tho.

PT, AR, BoS, ManSec, AFT, SI, EM. Alternatively, replace SI and EM with CE or FP and extra catapult fighter (if you use catapult fighter, otherwise choose PM). If you plan on using the captain later on FdG or GK, put last 5 points into IFHE and extra plane/PM. No, it's not. Range is just what is more often the limiting factor, but if you would take a Yamato and spec it for secondaries, would you rather miss most shots at 10.6 km or be accurate at 8.8 km? The nerf to AFT no longer buffing AA range is what makes it less useful these days than Manual Secondaries in a build. Also, below T7 you are right, given the accuracy buff is too small to be competitive. If you go for hybrid build, what exactly is more useful? Landing double the amount of shots because your gunners actually know how to do basic aiming or 10% less reload, so 11% more shots? Similarly, if given the choice between BoS and FP, BoS costs less and is usually about as useful. When comparing BoS with SI on a ship like Bismarck that burns more than it takes raw pens, BoS saves you damage up front, SI gives you another heal if you live long enough to use 4 (effectively) already.

And gotten German lines before British ones.

-still good secondaries and has other things over Massachusetts. -yes they can. Stop spouting nonsense. -there's worse and Bismarck is far from unmanageable. -this is not a balance issue and would be the same for any other T8 BB. -no, you get taken out for rushing in like a moron. -fun is not an objective quality. -that is true, but there still is worse. Stat difference certainly is not just down to better secondaries on the Bismarck, given how the secondaries are nice, but hardly game-changing. I'd rather consider things like Bismarck being a more well-rounded BB that replaces an even greater close-quarters specialisation with an offensively and defensively useful hydro.

A BB has armour. A CV usually has not. A CV that needs to spot with its hull is basically in deep sh*t. Entire reason why the suggestion of planes not spotting by themselves is stupid.

This whole part matters how? Like, Implacable has tankier planes, but it hasn't significantly fewer of them, nor do they respawn a lot slower than GZ planes. So, sure, saying that tankier planes have shortcomings compared to Kaga or Enterprise is true, but utterly pointless in response to a post that points out that British CVs at least have tanky planes over GZ, which has neither tanky planes nor a lot of them. Also, Kaga doesn't really lose that many planes in T10, if you don't throw them away.

No hard feelings. Good luck on the (virtual) high seas.

Bumping with Yuudachi, so I don't get shot by clan leadership. Am I doing it right?

It's a piece of garbage now. The speed nerf is already brutal, but the AP bombs just became incredibly crap thanks to how they drop. Half the time the bomb will just skip either of the deck or some cit deck.

Speak for yourself. I'd take Gneisenau over Scharnhorst most of the time.

The strong part in Zuihou + Bretagne was the Zuihou, not the Bretagne though. And shutting down a CV was just as possible with the König, which might have less range, but more than enough dps to kill the planes on long range and is actually more mobile to keep up with the battle. Additionally, same reason as to why Texas short and mid range are less important applies to Bretagne too when measured up vs König. Overall, obviously though, a BB that needed to be carried by a CV to be actually good is an utter piece of crap and the rework just reinforces that by making it a non-asset for CVs.

Funnily enough, Bretagne AA was not really all that great. König had better AA on the long range and with manual AA would outperform Bretagne, given how much long range benefits and how important it was due to overlapping auras. Texas obviously did the job better as well and was still better in all other areas too. Also, calling a ship with excessive 19 mm plating and hp on the level of a T4 BB tough is at best a joke. Bretagne is basically straight up trash. It's a New York for people who thought New York was too good and they'd rather play something worse. I almost am tempted to think that WG put this ship in just so people would stop claiming NYY gets powercreeped by every new T5 BB that did NY's job better (König, Iron Duke).

Royal Navy.

If you grew bored of Zao, I'd recommend a different line with a different playstyle. Hindenburg is not what you want to replace your Zao with. I'd rather recommend Des Moines or Moskva for a change of pace.

Harugumo pens a Hindenburg the same as it pens a Henri. Henri at least has a better chance of running away.