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Your view is very limited yes. I'm arguing that in AI controlled weapons do more damage than player controlled weapons. Granted the example was very simplified. A GK can fire about every 30s. If he only did 8k his main guns would do less damage than his secondaries in between reloads. Frankly doing 15 k would be a very lucky volley with GK accuracy. And no, I wasnt lucky hs had the wrong ammo loadet. I knew he was behind and island with his guns turned away from me.

yes I think it is wrong when an automated system in a PvP games does more damage than the max theoretical output of half the same tier DDs. Secondaries do insane % damage vs DDs. If they do 5K to a shima, thats 25% and it has no heal. Imagine taking 25k-40k damage in a GK in 30s and calling that slow.

Cant argue with that. I guess you are fine with CVs too then, because the BB vs CV interaction is based on the same principle: AI controlled AA. And in reality CVs made BBs obsolete, so the AA bot isnt very good. If the BBs secondaries were player controlled, I wouldnt have made this thread. But they're not. And they do 5 times more damage than the player controlled weapons.

Were losing, so taking a risk by ambushing a Daring between 2 islands as it pushed into our cap and thought i had an island between myself and the GK so it couldnt shoot me (to begin with). Had expected mayb 3-4k from the secondaries and primary front guns if they got involved while i polished the Daring off and then sailed behind the next island. Turns out i miscalculated rather massively GK secondary accuracy against småland with speedboost and actively throttle dodging. FYI i'm used to barely take damage from players even in gold using that technique. See above Why so negative? Honestly wondering here about surprising numbers unreasonable. Dont normally take this sort of risk, but did as the only way to pull the game back since i could kill dd and torp BB if it pushed out.

This was 6,5 km and the GK managed more DPM than a full gunboat gearing. Fair? We dont know if any points were invested. Ranked Gold league, so I strongly doubt it.

V25 was fun. Some people swear by the Z46 but I am not among them.

In before next patch.

Comparing the Ragnar to Friesland is like comparing a DesMoines to a smoke Minotaur; they only thing they have in common is the fast fire rate. Ragnar is best compared to a Småland in playstyle, but with major differences. It loses the torps and some concealment, but gains even better guns and a 25 mm armor plate that covers most the ships (DD HE will shatter apart from german, IJN guns) Even if you have Småland, it is definitely worth getting. Guns may reload "slow" 2,7s (only 50% of småland) but HE damage is 50% higher and the guns are twice as accurate....plus better ballistics and HE penetration of 30 mm which means you can farm Elbing and other Ragnar broadsides as well as all cruisers. To put it into perspecive, Ragnar mops the floor with Smålands, can citadel CLs at 10 kms and with speedboost it can still dodge cruiser HE like the old Henri IV days. In the weekend, I took down a full hp Hindenburg in CB for just 10k damage to my Ragnar (he wasnt the best player but still). I wasnt easily convinced Ragnar was worth it because I had Småland, but now I am. Although it powercreeps småland the only downside is, the coming Italian DDs with SAP might powercreep it.

Sorry, but this is nowhere near comparable to Pay2Rico grind. This is easy, walk in the park compared to P2R. Worst missions are the class specific ones. BaseXp next worst. Rest are doable, but i requires you have time to play a lot during december.

Most tier 9 DDs are, and most tier 9 DDs are stronger than Z46. Would be interested to hear why you think its's strong. IMO, surprise hydro from behind islands is it's only real threat, but that relies on dumb oppenents or good teamwork. 1v1 in DDs, I find it loses to most gunboats. It is quite easy to avoid hydro range due to bad Z46 concealment (at least 1 km buffer to get turned around) and it's so big and clumsy, even blindfiring it in smoke isnt exactly a challenge. Outside 1v1 I'd consider a wellplayed Yugumo a tougher opponent due to good conceal (easy to outspot a target) and small size (harder to hit).

Yep, everything takes 20-30s to load. Only WoWs forum, rest of internet works fine. Started yesterday afternoon/vening.

Not possible when Yugumo and german DDs (Z44 and both silver lines) exists.

WG wants to change their policy towards nerfing old premium and special ships. Has to be on their minds, regardless of how benign it is framned. Sorry, but if there is an opposite to trustworthy, WG has proven itself to be it. They could start by balancing subs, CVs and blatantly overpowered silver soviet ships if they wanted to appear more honest. As for Black itself, I grinded SIX ranked seasons for this and now they want to neft it when it's already in the dirt? Sure I played it for a year og two. Certainly broken back then, but times have changed. Now there are radars everywhere, back then people didnt even have hydro everywhere. DD opponents are far more deadly, and CV reeeeework means CV can strike directly at the DD with far shorter intervals than before. All in all I've not touched my Black for years, except for snowflakes. Kitakaze, Jutland, Benham, Paulo Emilio, Mogador are just much more versatile for carrying games.

I wish I never bought Austin, from someone who likes spammy cruisers and have both. Its been a port queen while i still play my grad in competitive. If you mostly play divisions with a spotter, Austin might work. For solo play it's garbage for carrying and not very fun. For 15s every 2 mins you get to be a tier X atlanta, for the next 2 minutes you're a tier 8 atlanta in tier X game. In short, firepower is very underwhelming for most of the time, and it is rare to get good oppertunities to use those full 15s. Austin explodes as easily as a minotaur and has no superheal or smoke. Whatever you do, dont buy Austin. Its not worth the steel. If you want the tier X Atlanta experience, play Worchester, Minotaur or Colbert.

Need to decide on a new RB ship. I have Småland and Ragnar and Daring already. Love all three. Options are Druid and Vampire 2, and I'm leaning toward Vampire. Dont see what Druid brings to the table that the others dont already have. You rarely want to sit bow in in a DD anyway. Gibraltar: while i love Mino, this one looks like a combination of all the bad things of Minotaur and Goliath. Recommendations?

Thanks for the info both of you. Have you used Druid in solo Ranked or competitive? If it's that good 1v1 outside the reversing into caps business, why do everyone else clain Vampire 2 is superior for competitive? I mean the short british smokes really fits Druids playstyle.

Marceau shooting HE going bow in? O-O I've bowtanked Minos in DDs and could tank them for several minutes without taking more than 5-10k hp dmg. Dont see why Druid would do any better and would expect Marceau to easily win by virtue of HE dpm vs neglectible ap damage.

Would rate Druid good enough for competitive eg. clan battles? Or more of a situational ship? Needs to be good at doing DD things and coming out on top, needs to be able to farm bow in soviet cruisers. I already have Daring for the quick smoke-pewpew playstyle and giving up the single launch torps is a HUGE loss

Well I dont like BB playstyle of click-wait 30s-click much so I'm probably biased. Mushi has T9 MM and dont see CVs as often as it sees tier 7 ships Shiki afaik still has the Yamato hull with the known weakness under the turrets. That being so, getting into secondary range doesnt seem advisable.

I still play my stalingrad. The guns are just so amazing it never gets old, they are not comparable to Moskvas at all. Nerfs to radar duration isnt a dealbreaker. But is has a methodical, deliberate playstyle. Big citadel the main downside. Shikishima I'm at a loss to see what it brings to the table that YamaSushi dont already bring (AA? phooey) Ragnar I've only limited experience with so far but like it. Was adviced it can be a superioer Småland and so far limited engagements in CBs have proven that right, although there are major differences. Offensively, 150 mm guns means 30 mm pen and better ballistics to farm cruisers. The greatest advantage is defensive though: 25 mm plating to shatter most gunboat DD HE shells. Twice as strong 4 km AA zone compared to Småland, but no torps - it is a uncompromisingly a gunboat by design but with all the consumables and gunboat playstyle you know from Småland and even better guns.

Didn't vote because of missing options: other ships/not on list. Jean Bart: Glory of the reload booster. Literally my most played. Best sound of the guns goes to Yamato though.

Not kidding. Most players here consider Hipper an absolute turd. Personally it is my 3rd best tier 8 cruiser by winrate and 5th best by damage. Going by personal experience, I should have said Amalfi, since it is the only ship I have with worse stats than Albermarle (Amalfi has twice the winrate with half the damage).

Stay behind islands and lob HE. If you are in the open, forget you have a rudder and a back turret. Bowtank slightly angled and use engine to forward/reverse worked much better for me since maneuverability is also terrible. Albermarle is the only ship that makes the Admiral Hipper look overpowered.

Benham kamikaze, Belfast, Mushi and almost alle the OP premiums except guilio cesare and Emperor Nikolai.

Småland has twice the reload with 1750 HE dmg to Ragnar 2200, so significant dpm advantage. Doesnt pen 20+ mm plating which is significant vs german DD and Rangar (switching ammo is annoying). Torps is significant as a deterrant vs damaged ships pushing you around corners. Havnt played Ragnar enough yet to form an unbiased opinion, might be I'm wrong and Ragner is more versatile. Do you build the captain the same way? I guess a good way to measure which is better is how it does vs French DDs (marceau) since they tend to dumpster Småland (in klebers case if reload booster is ready)