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Being in one of those casual clans (and with rentals) I would say ship availability isnt likely to be an issue. As for the top clans, it would break the monotony of CV Stalin and maybe Venezias. Balancing around top5% works in other games too, it's just WG being too lazy to do it here. Petropavlovsk, actually

100% agree. Best solution at this point is probably not ideal (would be rebalancing tier X cruisers based on top5% player performance - WG will never do that) 1. ship limit like brawls: only one of each ship 2. require 1 ship of each class WG be like: Here's a nice new russian silver CA balanced around Stalingrad AP.

Research the entire silver tech tree? Then there is only endgame content like RB, CB, Ranked, coal/steel ships and FXP ships (since nothing else to use FXP on)

I give up on this . I swear some of these ranked players are actively trying to break the sub 20% WR mark. They're so bad they make Random battles regular 40% WR potatoes look good. Lemmingtrains lemmingtrains lemmingtrains lemmingtrains. Game over by minute 5. Then getting flamed for not following the J10 failtrain when they all die horribly to inferior numbers, because I live kiting 1v3 (+ enemy CV) on the other flank. Top of the team 5 games out of 6. At least I can't lose anymore stars, being stuck on R8

Currently back to 1,15M FXP since buying Friesland in february, but now I'm out of Papa papa flags. Will consider Hayate when I've gotten 4M FXP on top of the 2M for Smaaland - provided something more interesting dont make an appearance in the meantime (like FXPing lines for rebalanced Legendary Mods). So probably never.

Nah, then she would be balanced

Oh i'm with you on that. But that isn't exactly new? Reworked CVs and sealclubber Hosho has been like that since 0.8.0. If anything low tier BBs have it worse than DDs for players with a bit of skill. At least DDs can hide from the skypolice!

Agree with OP. First night in a while where weekday teams exceed weekend teams effortlessly at potatoing. And yes, solo games. How does anyone even reach tier 9 and still sails around and radars 30s after start?

Hmmm. Still nope. My Benham spits out way more torps without sacrificing smoke or guns. Sky police will love smokeless DDs and welcome them with open throttles.

Buying shimakaze and gearing from tier 1 all the way is ~1,5M FXP. This thing which looks like gearing with worse torps is 2M FXP? Nope.

Dont see what it brings to the table that Gearing dont straight up beat (apart from hull size)?

Kitakaze is better than the tier X anyway Not sure what I will play - Benham, Kitakaze, Daring og CV...or maybe farm the Zao LM on poor unsuspecting potatoes

2M, no surprise there. Waiting for 9.5 LM rework to find out where to blow my 1,2M FXP - Smaaland or resetting some line a few times. Not on Hayate.

The main problem is still tier 8+ afaik, lower tier tears is sealclubbing by Hoshos exclusively. WG gives sealclubbers a tool made for sealclubbing at tier X with much more forgiving conditions at tier 4. As an experienced player with proper position it doesnt bother me since lower tier CVs do pitiful damage. This topic was about if anyone have problems, and I don't apart from the usual - discussing which makes this a CB complaint thread in disguise. Its nothing new, and if anything BBs have it worse than dds at low tiers.

don't have Klas horn. And I managed 78% wr in Västerås with blue/purple stats. Skåne only 60% wr and purple dmg and it feels a bit weak.

Grinded 5-10 games of Visby last patch, no problems with CVs unless they spot for the team. Sunk both tier 4 CVs in one of the battles and had no issues chasing down the Hosho under constant air attack after i sunk his Langley Buddy. PanEU dds dodge quite well.

Way to invasive. They sent me several the first years of the game. As to fun, I consider League og Legends and most Bioware games more fun than WoWs. I just cant deal with the toxicity in LoL. I'm enjoying CBs and Ranked and even the occasional random battle, but it gets boring quickly (3-4 battles max). Recent year WG have consistently been reducing rewards of all kinds while increasing the difficultiness of missions. I think the only reason I keep playing at this point is inertia and completionism.

Just got a survey for the first time in a year and said that (again). Keeps the spam out of my inbox. They've long since given up sending me surveys about my income and other personal stuff, probably because I return then unanswered (and possibly they can get the information from data brokers anyway)

All of them say Hosho is fun and balanced too. Says all you need to know about their validity

Except CVs are still way too strong compared to any other class, so any nerfs would just bring them closer to balanced state. Also the concept of multiple attacks by the same squad could be brought back to life without changing alpha, but rather simply removing a few more AA modules from the Kremlin and pronouncing it balanced like CVs

Not talking realism here but rather gameplay. Planes are so fast CV can reset any capping from anywhere on the map unless smoke is used and blindfire missed. Also retreating from smoke to friendlies is next to impossible without eating huge chunks (especially i they have moved away when DD is forced to smoke and nothing was spotting for them). Would be ok with planes going 600 knots and unable to aim at DDs unless they predict perfectly in advance, but I'm not sure other classes would appreciate a doubling of CV effectiveness

WG learned from YY debacle and now do incremental nerfs. Also useful to only very slowly nerf particular lines they don't want to nerf (*cough Kremlin*). Most counterplay to DDs are actually fine since it allows for skill to matter. Only warp-speed planes and stealth radar battlecruisers are problematic when there is not skill involved. What I suggest is adding heals to the remaining older tier X dds that are suffering (Gearing, Z52 in particular) I doubt WG will do anything about tier 8, in fact I'm not sure they're aware at this point that tiers below X exist

Sadly WG is like:

How about you buf other DDs instea of nerfing the RN line? Relatively speaking, DDs are a lot less good a carrying than they were prior to 0.8.0. Also you might want to add heals to tier X dds sometime in the future unless rocket planes get removed from CVs.

Generally speaking I enjoy how other non-CV classes have evolved counterplay to DDs. It requires skill and attention to play DDs in this meta. Sadly there is many CV games with just 1 DD. You can basically AFK the first 5-10 minutes if CV has two braincells to rub together. Very rustrating and boring. In CBs too their impact in CV games are questionable at best compared to cruisers an BBs and with one or two exceptions they're fallen too far beinhd the powercreep train. Only a few are actually viable in the current meta (the small maneuverable ones: Daring, Shima, Somers). Disagree, torpedo DDs can still be very strong unless we are talking Clan Battles with coordinated teams using CV. In randoms, I average 1,5+ kills in Shima with > 60% wr no problem. Benham stats are even better. Those are very menuverable ships and much better suited to the meta (=dodging the fire from 11 ships and CV) than something like a Grozovoi. I do agree Daring is king in CV meta. Soviet DDs, and even grozovoi do not bring the same maneuverability to the table. They eat too many pens because of large size. Same reason Z52 remains trash. Gearing too despite being maneuverable, it sits so high in the water and still eats tons of damage. YY with many smokes are actually viable, or would be if WG hadn't hit it with the sledgehammer. Khaba is a worse Kleber/Marceau and unless grinding the LM there is zero reason to play it. Halland /Smaaland I do not yet have, but either is outspotted and will lose any gunfight to a Daring.