Kiwi1960

Crap! I don't agree with anything you said, BUT I accept you said it AND have a right to say it. But none of you seem to understand my real complaint, so I'll spell it out for you. You all seem to think you can say what the hell yu like to anyone, even if they have cancer, because that is your God given right.... free speech.... but with free speech comes a responsibility to post with RESPECT! So if you don;t agree with me, then just say that, why the insults and subtle abuse? In fact, if you cannot add to the discussion as I started it, why post at all? I wanted to know if things had changed.... thanks to you lot, I know they haven't... you all attacked the messenger, NOT the post. And you lot think you are all OK.... you're not, you all act like your opinion is Gods gift to any discussion... I have news for you. Its NOT! When will the moderators close this topic like I asked them to?

Well, I got my answer. NOTHING HAS CHANGED! Make a post, get attacked... it never occurred to any of you that if you didn't have anything constructive to say, DON'T SAY ANYTHING, but no, you all wanted to attack the poster making a complaint... did attacking me make you feel superior... yes, you're all wonderful human beings right, you HAVE an opinion and you MUST voice it. Could a Mod actually do some work and lock this thread. I won't be back, maybe, if I'm still alive in 12 months time, I'll ask again. Its no wonder the European WoWs is suffering a lack of players... the NA and Asian forums are so much better... sadly, my main account has always been in Europe. The Staff at the help centre lied. This place is still full of entitled little children with opinions.... actually, assumptions... pretending to be opinions.

Yet another assumption.... what an idiot you are. Firstly, I have not had surgery, I don't need it, apart from the pain caused by the side effects, I feel fine. Its what they call cancer the silent killer. They found it purely by chance when my lung started filling with fluid back in September. Its inoperable... they cannot do anything for me... that it why they call it "terminal"... I wished they could remove my lung, if they could, then maybe I wouldn't be in any condition to play games either, but they won't remove my lung because the cancer calls have spread to both lungs, if they removed the lung, it would only come back in the other one, what then? Maybe you better educate yourself before making offensive assumptions.

Another child, I assume, making assumptions. Go away, no one asked you to post in in my thread.

I merely mentioned my condition to explain WHY I was back, I went into detail should anyone again call me a liar. However, your post was the next worst thing. Read what you said after the word "however" and you will see, like I have, that NOTHING has changed here. People here still take petty pot shots at others to feel superior to them, and like you, they make assumptions. For starters, I couldn't give a s**t whether its snowing where you are, here, its sunshine, a heatwave, I thought the "kiwi" in my name might have been a clue for you, but no... I'm in New Zealand and I do enjoy life IN THE DAY TIME, but I posted that AT NIGHT... on a public holiday .... it was New Zealand day yesterday (although we call it Waitangi day) .... So, want to make any more assumptions? Feel superior to me yet? Nothing has changed.

Seems to be a trend, people talking for others, assuming they know what was in the mind of the poster. Well, you're entitled to your opinion, its wrong, but then.... maybe that is you all the time? Wrong!

To a point, you are right. But change starts with one person, then two... it starts with decent people saying "no more!"

Yes you can. If you tried insulting people on FB then they ban you for a time. This is a community, WE make the community, the staff reflect what we want, the rules are clear, flaming, abuse and you will be punished. If you suggest that the staff NEVER issue punishments then things are much worse than I thought, but I don't think they are, not really, its just YOU with a delusional Wild Wild Web mentality thinking everything is bad on the internet so why not play along with it. Nope, not buying it.... In real life, if people insulted me like that, then they would be in Hospital for quite some time. THAT is why people do it online, they are "ever so brave" from behind a keyboard.... right? (If you have ever seen a photo of a Kiwi Rugby player, then you'd known why they would be in hospital... even with the cancer... I might have lost 10 kilo's in 3 months, but I still look the part... )

Maybe humanity isn't for you. I'm old enough to know that manners maketh the man, or, in words you might understand better, you speak (or type) to people the way you would want them to speak and type to you.... meaning, was it really needed for the not so subtle insult? Google manners if you want a clue. have a nice day. So, apparently, things have not changed much. Just because its the internet doesn't mean you get to troll people, right? The internet is what we make it, if these forums has not learnt that in the time since it started, then it will continue to lose members/players. I Googled it got my answer.

I meant in the forums.... in the game... yeah, that reminds me, it was bad. I remember ...trolls... attacking me just as the game starts, complete with torps. Maybe I made a mistake wanting to come back. I'll reserve judgement till I see for myself, but yeah... I meant, in the forums.

BTW, I even created a clan, but they hadn't started yet, even had a website for it, gone now, so it was more than 12 months ago. I won't bother with clans. That was partly what the abuse towards me was about. Sorry, should have edited my last post. :(

So, a few battles ago, less than 2 hours in fact, I started a game with my old but trusty Derzki Destroyer and as soon as the co-op battle started, a person who I could name, but won't, started firing at other team mates but then he zeroed in on me, being the only destroyer, he thought I was easy meat. He took half my HP before I turned and fired all nine torpedoes into him... I was made pink.... really? I did the team a favour by taking that clown out... and this isn't the first time its happened, yesterday, I was lucky enough to be in my premium battleship and the shells fired by the clown had zero impact on my ship... lucky, I was turning at the time when he fired torpedoes at me, so he totally missed me and sunk and ally, meaning instant death for him with reciprocal damage. (they were two different "clowns" BTW) WHEN..... WHEN will the WoWS staff ban these cretins, they only play to cause havoc in their own team, that is all, they are NEVER going to hand over money to advance themselves, so it doesn't matter if they are banned or not, BUT... they spoil the game for the paying customers, or other players who take it seriously enough even though they never pay any money! I report these people but NOTHING ever happens. The fact is, I'm beyond caring any more, if I have to be pink for the rest of my existence in this game, so be it... the point is, if we remove the "fun" aspect for these n00bs then they may give up and go away for good. They do what they do because they know serious players won't fire back lest they become pink. But I want to know WHEN the "staff" will remove these people once and for all because its ruining the game for many of us... you took action against the cheaters, why not the serial TKers? And is it fair that when someone kills one of these pathetic morons, they are made pink? WHEN will the "staff" take our complaints seriously? I said before that I wouldn't spend any more money on this game till the problems are fixed... ironic that 30 minutes before this happen, I did "invest" in the game, not much, but for a retired person like me, at this time of year, it was a small fortune JUST to be able to buy the RN Cruiser Fiji. May I suggest that the "REPORT" button be enhanced to include a "Attacked a team mate" button, and when its used, the "staff" actually get off their backsides and look into it and remove these clowns? If I had not sunk this clown, he would have sunk me and maybe others as well... as it was, with half my health gone and in a destroyer, I didn't last long anyhow... but what if I had spend money on a camouflage paint job, and signals???? It would appear the "staff" don't care if we lose money.... as long as they make it.... right? Some might say I need to play better... last time I took the Derzki out, I got 5 kills... some might say its the way it is... and my answer is it doesn't need to be that way... NOT if the "staff" appreciated those players who play decently rather than protecting the idiots. Its not rocket science. I'll wear my pink status with pride... its better than the egg the "staff" have on their faces for allowing this to happen. right?

Why woukld I want to have fun in a chicken coop... OH, you mean co-op. At least I'm educated. Enough of the crap, I have demanded the moderators do something about the trolls and bullies on this forum. Nobody cares, huh, that is obvious with your uneducated self righteous patronising [edited]answer. Its not only the cretins in game, but its the bullies and trolls who ruin it in these forums. Its no wonder nobody has the courage to post. I think I'll stay on the other forums from now on, they at least have manners and moderators that do their jobs.

It happened far too fast, don't forget I was in a tin can less the 1k from him, every shell he put into me had damming consequences for me...

And I reported your post to the moderator... calling me a liar????? How low can you go! No evidence... seriously, you need to be banned for such a flame.

NO, it it is you and a few others that are the trolls. My first post insulted no one, was courteous to all except one person (the cretin) and treated the forum I posted on with respect, which means I respected everyone on it. YOU, however, have insulted me, flamed me, made assumptions about me and downright just ignored the point I was making, In other words, it is you that is not only the troll but also the bully with these personal comments and assumptions. Go back and read what I said in the OP, my point wasn't about having been made pink, I wear that title with pride .... the day before, I did ignore a cretin and he got what was coming to him via the game, but when half my ship is taken out, I'm NOT going to let him sink my ship when he will only be back to do it again... they treat being pink with contempt... its NOTHING to them... So I asked... nicely.... without insulting or flaming or disrespecting anyone... when something will be done about it.... and I got jumped on by TROLLS and BULLIES who are making out its my fault... how can it be when I never shot first, and to save my ship, and game, I returned fire... maybe I was wrong to do that, but wouldn't have had to if the punishment for these people was REAL and IMMEDIATE.... Even so, my post broke no rules.... YOURS DID.... blatantly.... I don't see the MODERATOR tag on your names, so tell me, what gives you the right to break the rules and troll and bully a person for making post, even if you don't agree with it, there was NO NEED to flame me or call me a bad player or anything else... and WHY does that give you the right to check my profile for no other reason than to insult me, flame me and mock me... YOU BROKE THE RULES.... if you were moderators, sure, MAYBE you would have point to justify your actions, but the moderators are not bullies or trolls.... YOU ARE!!!! I knew these forums had a very bad reputation for because of people like you, but seriously.... you say I was in the wrong.... WHAT ARE YOU???? I at least respect peoples opinions, if I disagree with a person, I say so.... I DON'T TROLL THEM, BULLY or FLAME or INSULT them.... Everyone is entitled to their opinions... EVEN YOU.... but without the crap you lot have been posting. And you lot tell ME to grow up? SERIOUSLY?

I marked it private because I am not in competition with any other player, just myself, you made an assumption, stop trolling... WHERE IS THE STAFF when you need them????

So many trolls here. Maybe I was wrong to sink the cretin, but my point still stands, when will something be done about this. Sadly, I might have broken the rules in sinking him, but he broke the rules with NO PUNISHMENT.... at least I was made pimk. These forums are a trolls haven, when will the rules be enforced? The bullies seem to rule supreme here, but I guess that is par for the course, as long as the company makes money right? You people maybe do not know that I play on other servers as well, and read the associated forums, this one is the WORST for trolls. The rules don;t seem to ever be enforced. Just trolls... anyone DARES to make a complaint, the trolls come out and bully a person into silence. Well.... have your go at me... lets see if the rules will be enforced for once. In the mean time, my post still stands, its a valid point which even the bully trolls cannot dispute. Apparently.... its my fault for firing torpedoes even though I did not fire first... they are defending the actions of a person who is ruining the game for everyone... they support him, by trying to make it my fault... seriously... if you cannot add a valid point to the thread, then why bother posting? Even some of you went to check my stats to make it my fault... wow... such bullying tactics... you are breaking the rules but that is OK, you are "entitled" right.... the forums tolls and bullies... Meanwhile... my post was not offensive, or rude except to the person who shot first... its not breaking any rules... I asked a fair question.... WHERE IS THE STAFF TO TELL THESE BULLIES AND TROLLS OFF?????? I will not be bullied into silence... even if the staff are allowing the trolls to attack me personally. I asked a question, when will something be done to those that ruin the game for everyone?

Stop being a troll. The n00b fired first, but you're making it all my fault... Why not "act your age" and address the problem I mentioned, rather than trying to troll me... when will the "staff" do something about these idiots. And I wasn't the one that started with the insults towards you, but of course, the "staff" will allow it so they can close this thread and sweep in under the carpet. Maybe I should add the problem of trolls destroying other peoples threads.... my vent was legitimate,.... you're making it my problem because I fired AFTER I was half killed.... Sadly, for you, it doesn't work that way. Maybe if you cannot add anthing constructive to the thread, you just stay out of it. Where are the "staff".... are we going to be bullied into silence by troll bullies now?

How does one "act" their age? Silly comment... apparently, if anyone complains, then the trolls come out.

Except, I said I would wear that with PRIDE.... it wasn't what I was getting at, go re-read my post and look for the real issues....

You are both trolls, I fired back lest he sink my ship, these cretins think no one will fire back.... Instead of finding fault with me, look at the real issues.... or are you going to blame me for them as well now? You're telling me that if someone punched you in the face while you were out shopping... you'd take it? You'd say it was your fault.... Really? Why is it that whenever someone comes out with a complaint like mine, THEY are the problem and not the 'staff' for allowing it????

This has been one huge monumental cockup by WoWS staff... and its still not perfect. I'm not going to be so forgiving this time, I'll still get the NA version of the game and start playing both. We shall see if this.... cash cow.... mentality persists in other competitions. MrConway was "happy" to announce this, but no explanation as to why they were willing to screw us over, and certainly, not that I could find it, an apology. It seems they have a hard time with the word 'sorry' ... and to me, they are still treating us with contempt.

I'm going to be doing the same, I already belong to the Asian server, and next week, I'll be playing on the NA server as well as the EU till I'm better off than I am here...then dropping the EU altogether except for the clan matches... seeing as I started the War Board clan, but the days of my spending money on the EU server are over... totally.

Your first post (OP post).... and you wasted it on that? How much are they paying you to defend them? YOU didn't even bother to post a "hello" post... your first post was.... yeah, right. They screwed up, they deserve all they get. You can tell they treat us with contempt, not one of them has bothered to post a "sorry" message... they know.. or think... if they ignore it, people will give up and move on. Well.... that isn't going to happen... given the reaction to your first ever post. First, they can say sorry... then they can FIX it... then pay compensation... and then give us a month of 200% XP to make up for all their crap... OH, and a promise never to do it again. Till then... I ain't spending any more money on them and I ain't forgetting either.