only one way to enjoy submarine, co-op mode :D in the random mode, you will be the last one with dmg and die like hell... Not funny... double ping sux to do. Normal torp without homing you ping players they turn instantly so you [edited]up and just hear the sub bomber hahaha No AA, no guns no nothing just dive and they bomb the crap out of you with 2 clicks..... It's just not fun..... if this be like this better do not use subs.... because just sneaking run seeking run, no oxigen go up and if you still alive, thrust me you will die4sure anyway :D