Culiacan_Mexico

EXP Damage Kills JP CV 4 Hosho 656 23584 0.59 JP BB 4 Myogi 638 23671 0.59 Player Average for Ships [ at 2019/05/18 ] Two months Ending EXP Damage Kills US BB 4 Wyoming 685 31219 0.79 US CV 4 Langley 652 22906 0.57 Player Average for Ships [ at 2019/05/18 ] Two months Ending EXP Damage Kills RN BB 4 Orion 778 40931 1.12 RN CV 4 Hermes 649 24009 0.64 I fail to see how these individual CVs are OP, well at least with regards to their stats.

Honest questions: are Tier 4 CVs OP and if so why?

You don't understand what makes a ship or ship type OP.

WG balancing team?

It was just a joke.

So, these changes are the ones the will implement.

Hardly. WG themselves stated they wanted to "simplify" 0.8.0 CVs, and that is what they did.

Team spotting? By all measures spotting damaging isn't the issue with 0.8.0 CVs.

So option 2 is a better solution? 2. Aircraft can't detect ships with AA turned off during the first 10 minutes of the battle. If AA is turned on, aircraft can detect ships as long as they are within firing range of their anti aircraft guns.

So just return control of the CV back to the player as in RTS and everything is fine?

Don't all ships have this issue with regards to concealment?

This announcement is interesting in so many ways. They could have just as easily have tested all of this in private, but to announce it public is political, and somewhat odd considering WG official line is "Everything is fine, nothing to see here". Is this simply a PR move to placate some of the player base, was there a power struggle/shake-up internally at WG, or are they actually seeing some issues with the 0.8.0 CVs? The official line up till now was "CV work as expected, more or less". The first option is game changing, and considering many 0.8.0 CV players have stated the like the new CVs because they change things up, I am sure they will be strong supporters of these changes.

Tier 4 CVs are OP? In what way?

Wouldn't it force CV players to actually coordinate with their team? Support their teams offensive pushing or help out their team hold flanks? 0.8.0 CVs are solo warriors who generally ignore their team and play for themselves. Sounds radical to me.

Radical. A major alteration in game play. I can't say if it would be good or bad, and I don't see it happening, but if it did... CV players would just have to adapt.

CV experience was roughly equal to other ships types until 0.8.0 Player Average for Shipclasses [ at 2019/02/09 ] 1 BB Higher Tier 1574 1 CA Higher Tier 1606 1 CV Higher Tier 1888 1 DD Higher Tier 1535 2 BB Lower Tier 995 2 CA Lower Tier 894 2 CV Lower Tier 1126 2 DD Lower Tier 878 Player Average for Shipclasses [ at 2019/01/19 ] div name class exp 1 BB Higher Tier 1481 1 CA Higher Tier 1500 1 CV Higher Tier 1464 1 DD Higher Tier 1479 2 BB Lower Tier 1089 2 CA Lower Tier 838 2 CV Lower Tier 962 2 DD Lower Tier 898

last resort

Is it possible that the differences in experience is showing some CV have too much game influence?

Don't 0.8.0 CV have some of the highest average plane kills per game? aircraft destroyed US CV 6 Ranger 4.18 US CA 10 Worcester 3.87

So what should WG do to nerf CVs and bring them into line with other ship types?

I believe so. In a DD with a single RTS CV (mid-tier) if the CV spanned on the opposite side of the map it would mean that you could scout forward with some confidence as their would be considerable time wasted fly to your side of the map. wasn't this one of the reasons the experience CV players talked about positioning your CV smartly to reduce turn around time?

I use extreme (personal prejudice) because the new aircraft game speed destroyed lots of game play, and considering WG responses since 0.8.0 I don't think it was intentional.

The interesting thing is that after 0.8.0, CVs are doing very well compared to other ships types. Excluding Tier 4 CVs, where their experience is comparable to other Tier 4s. exp 1 BB Higher Tier 1475 1 CA Higher Tier 1491 1 CV Higher Tier 1877 1 DD Higher Tier 1480 2 BB Lower Tier 993 2 CA Lower Tier 846 2 CV Lower Tier 1058 2 DD Lower Tier 889

Personal prejudice I suppose, but with RTS CV I liked the cat and mouse game of trying to stay hidden from aircraft. I understand with the new aircraft and their extreme speed... that game play is probably dead.

I would think that overall spotting would be up simply because to the significant number of CVs being played. As for individual ships "spotting" effects. The new Cvs Tier 6, 8, and 10 CVs are performing considerably better than the RTS CVs with regards to experience; even though in some cases they are doing less damage. Where is this coming from? Their ability now to be very effective in spotting/defending bases? Player Average for Ships [ at 2019/05/11 ] nation class tier name exp damage caused warship destroyed aircraft destoryed base capture base defense spot damage JP CV 6 Ryujo 1196 39934 0.75 4.23 0.63 12.08 26279 JP CV 8 Shokaku 1704 59465 0.9 6.11 0.65 11.37 45390 JP CV 10 Hakuryu 1956 89273 1.01 6.55 0.51 10 70096 US CV 6 Ranger 1163 37551 0.69 4.19 0.36 11.16 25047 US CV 8 Lexington 1772 65086 0.96 6.06 0.47 12.2 44360 US CV 10 Midway 2072 92888 1.09 7.37 0.58 14.06 69445 Player Average for Ships [ at 2018/09/29 ] ation class tier name exp damage caused warship destroyed aircraft destoryed base capture base defense spot damage JP CV 6 Ryujo 960 37468 0.74 10.23 0.42 4.56 34128 JP CV 8 Shokaku 1182 53269 0.78 16.91 0.29 5.18 66616 JP CV 10 Hakuryu 1727 96751 1.3 27.28 0.56 5.56 96681 US CV 6 Independence 988 35364 0.67 13.14 0.51 3.9 30381 US CV 8 Lexington 1155 56814 0.78 13.93 0.18 4.7 52789 US CV 10 Midway 1906 108972 1.57 26.76 0.53 5.73 90089