Ictogan

Crappy armor layout? I don't think the ship you're talking about is the Tirpitz. And you can check the recent stats of ships on the very same site you posted. According to https://warships.today/vehicle/4292818736/eu/Tirpitz the average damage of the Tirpitz over all time was 52,334 and over the last 2 weeks it was 53,971.

? I was pointing out that you were making 4 weak points out of 2 actual ones. And yes, MM is the same. Or do you have any proof otherwise?

Smallest guns and penetration problem are pretty much the same thing. Same goes for worst dispersion and worst shell grouping. And Tirpitz has a total RPM of 18.4 compared to NC's 18 and Amagi's 20. So even though she has less gun barrels, she still fires more rounds per minute than the NC. And the matchmaking Tirpitz gets isn't any different from what any other t8 ship also gets. And for the 100th time, the AA on it is fine and I also rarely have problems with fires, so I seriously don't know why you do.

Ugh, not sure what you're trying to tell me. I have IJN CVs up to the Taiho. All I meant with that post is that having a productive CV discussion is impossible because a lot of people will call anyone saying that CVs aren't OP "CV apologists" and just ignore their opinion completely.

Just change port.

I don't think having a productive CV discussion is possible as long as everyone who says that CVs aren't OP gets labeled as a "CV apologist".

I think AP bombs are a stupid idea to add to CVs. Against TBs you can dodge, but dodging bombs it's pretty much impossible. Receiving an AP dive bombing run would be the equivalent to receiving a full salvo from a BB while showing broadside, but you couldn't do anything to hide said broadside other than hugging AA cruisers. I think a better way of fixing USN CVs would be giving ranger and lex a 1-1-2 setup and giving essex and midway 1-2-2.

How is that much different from dispersion buff? I will keep my opinion about Tirpitz being fine as she is.

Could I do more damage in the Tirpitz if the dispersion was lower? Yes. Do I feel like the Tirpitz would be balanced with better dispersion? No.

The power of this ability is only incredible if the player whose planes get strafed makes a mistake.

I would consider 65k dmg decent, but I don't really care about damage that much and don't even give a [edited]about survival rate, I care much more about win rate. And that's where I can show that my playstyle in the Tirpitz works with a 66% win rate(63% solo).

I have a 31% hit rate on my Tirpitz. Why do you think that is, because I'm that insanely good at aiming or simply because I actually close in on the enemy?

When talking about base stats, ALL BBs have sh*t concealment. And I know that bow armor isn't just about paper stats and I know I have seen bloody Yamato shells bouncing off the bow on my Tirpitz, something that's impossible to do in a NC. Gun configuration is good enough and AA is also good enough in Tirpitz. And yes, it may have a better turning circle, but Tirp has better speed and rudder shift, which is helping just as much. Getting closer doesn't just mean being able to do damage better to enemies, it also means that you have a certain amount of control over the area around you. No sane CA player will want to be within 10km of a Tirpitz, thus they will run. In my Tirpitz I often do pushes while being far outnumbered and I can still manage to last 3-5 minutes in those cases, denying the enemy a cap for that amount of time and dealing large amounts of damage during that time. What people need to understand is that often trying to survive is not the best thing they can do for their team.

But this thread IS about the AA buffs in 0.5.6. Why the heck open a new thread when this thread already is about these "minor" AA buffs..

Going to close ranges with CAs at high tiers is suicide because at high tiers BBs can citadel CAs no matter the angle.

AA is decent on her imo, never had too much of a problem with CVs. What she lacks in pure AA strength, she can make up for with her amazing torp dodging capabilities. And having it makes up for the lesser amount of guns with the ROF, turret rotation and armor/maneuverability. Bad concealment? She can get to 12.4km with full stealth spec. Regarding NC outclassing Tirpitz in bow armor, NC has 32mm bow and stern armor whereas Tirpitz has 32-60mm. That's the same in some areas and WAY better in others. Let's not forget that it's torpedo defense is still better than the NC. And it can also dodge torps more easily. And I already sort of mentioned the caliber by mentioning penetration. I would consider 15km too far away in the Tirpitz. She excells at ranges below 10km.

Let's take a look at the bad sides of the Tirpitz: - bad dispersion - bad penetration Now let's look at the good sides: - torps - rate of fire - insane armor - best maneuverability amongst high tier BBs Yeah, surely it's UP.

Don't try to apply real life logic to an arcade game and even if you did there are still far more unrealistic things in the game than this.

Tirpitz dispersion had never changed and is fine as it currently is. If it would be lower, it would be OP.

Same detection range, slightly slower, but it has faster rotating turrets and 3 turrets turning towards the bow and 1 to the stern instead of 2 to the bow and 2 to the stern.

Keep in mind though that this is only the NA server for now, we will probably see it in two months and only if they deem it a success.

I feel like the prizes for GNB were kinda meh. I much prefer the Kami R over all of the prices from GNB combined and that's not even including the credit rewards for Project R. Don't get me wrong, I like a bit of premium time and premium ships, but I rarely play at the tiers of the premium ships we got. Also making the final prize a secret and then having it be just 10 [edited]camos was a huge mistake. Making it a secret creates some expectations around it, so they should only have done it if they were actually gonna make the secret be something people will be happy about and not something like this.

While I can only agree that US CVs need some kind of buff to make them be on par with IJN ones, this topic is about AA and not about balance between CV nations.

Please show me a replay from a recent game version where a CV managed to sink a BB with a SINGLE strike and the BB didn't screw up hard when trying to do evasive maneuvers.

I consider it funny that you think very few of the CV players are interested in the game working properly. I play every single type of ship in the game, so I would obviously be interested in both offense and defense. But sadly not considering CVs to be overpowered automatically makes me an "apoligist".