Bladezfist

Woah, nobody told me they were giving the french cruisers guns! And they really aren't that fast. They have okish speed and meh guns.

I've noticed and previously mentioned this too. This update takes away a lot of the skill involved in knife fighting and makes more of an emphasis on consumables being how caps are taken. Smoke mirroring becoming more popular means that hydro and radar also become more powerful. Pressing a consumable button to win a cap does not feel more skill dependent than the DD and fast cruiser knife fighting we had before to me. I just got the Missouri before these changes and am enjoying a 70% win rate in solo by just going near caps (which by the point I get there are just smoke clouds) and pressing a button and then deleting the enemy teams DDs in one or two salvos. I don't even have a skilled captain or the modules for that ship yet and I have way more success than knife fighting in my DDs.

That's the only time for speculation. You can't speculate when they tell us what ships will be in.

I did a 13k salvo against a Kagero in my Missouri today. It seems to happen fairly often in this ship.

I want my vertical space back :/

I'm a little cautions with the previews, people thought the RN cruisers were bad at first and I think most of us who are experienced with them agree that they are some of the, if not the strongest cruisers in the game.

To be fair I didn't play many games so I might have just been seeing a minority, I just went back to TX after playing the lower tier TX. By that do you mean never fire your guns on the cap at the start of the game as you have no idea how much support the other DD has and you have a very high chance of being made combat ineffective in 20 seconds?

I'm experiencing T6 games that play like T10 games after this patch, DDs are super afraid to go on to the cap, even when they do and they meet an opponent they often both don't fire and just immediately smoke and then leave the cap. It all seems like a really stupid way of getting rid of a mechanic that barely made an impact on the game. I guess they don't mind the move towards a more smoke heavy, stationary game at all tiers.

Was in a game yesterday against a dvision of 2 20km shimas and a gearing and they completely shut down a flank. They got help from another 2 DD's on the team and managed to do hundreds of thousands of damage and killed all of our dds on the cap with the first torp wall. The torp wall was impenetrable, have not seen that pulled of that well before. They then turned their attention to the BBs and killed a Yamato, severely wounded me in my missouri and damaged then hunted a Bismarck. All with no support and with half our team going up that flank. It was actually pretty cool to watch, our team was furious and everyone in chat was arguing about 5 DDs on a team being a thing.

I imagine a lot of us who grinded the line did it for 2 reasons, A) Udaloi and B) Khaba. I also wish I had my Udaloi captain back in it's rightful place and my modules, why did they take away my modules :'( Oh well at least it is the Udaloi I am grinding back to the state I once had her, it's an awesome ship. Although I remember that I got the Fletcher at the same time and the Udaloi was awful stock in comparison.

Weird, it's almost as if the change concerns dd players. I don't think this will affect me too much personally but it sucks for the people that enjoy this play-style. I prefer to get in close and personal but will miss being able to remain helpful at low health in the Fletcher by stealth bbq-ing the BB horde. Hopefully the next thing to go will be long range sniping BBs, even more dispersion

I just got back from leaving after the introduction of radio location. I didn't really mean to stop playing the game entirely, it just happened and straight after the patch released (hmmmm). I imagine if I don't like the changes the same will probably happen again before I even notice it.

Not true, 12.5 is not a magic number AFAICT. Pop smoke at 16.5knts and slow while turning and you might be concealed depending on the ship and what appears to be blind luck. Go too slow and you can leave the first puff and not get a second which is another scenario your model does not account for. I doubt the smoke system cares (or should care) about the speed of the user. I can understand if it cares about the distance between two smokes (for which speed is only a single factor) although think if this was in fact done for performance reasons then RN cruisers should be eliminated from this as they can only spawn 2 puffs anyway. There is probably something wrong with your system if a large portion of people find it inconsistent and frustrating and think it is a bug.

So DDs can paralyse a flank with torpedos (which you can use WASD keys to avoid) and stealth-firing (which is about to be removed from the game) plus BBs have the health to soak up and cruisers can use WASD again but a Des Moines is completely not a threat to a DD because radar doesn't harm them and they can miraculously dodge every shell fired at them? These two things require the same amount of skill right? You say the Des Moines is not a threat because of rainbow arcs, in that case why is it when I meet a group of multiple DDs in my Minotaur they have less chance of escaping alive than I do?

I haven't played since the announcement of the patch's release with RDF despite playing everyday beforehand for a long time, just can't bring myself to want to play it anymore.

It sounds like we might get a limit to BBs per match in the future. [–]Sub_Octavian[S] 1 point 2 hours ago We would like to limit or reduce the pupulation of BBs on some regions/tiers. We also would like to fix CVs overall (sealclubbing on low tiers, very hard and challenging on high tiers). These are global challenges. Other than that, it is the matter of fine-tuning specific ships.

I'm not sure I agree with capping DD numbers as well, it's an issue when you get a game like that but DDs rebalance each other within the first 5 minutes of the match and games like this are rare, where as it is rare to join a game that does not have 5 BBs at T8+. I'm not sure I want the numbers of every ship to always be the same (which is what we currently have with 5 BBs a game so limiting them does not really change that)

I was going to do more of the christmas convoy missions today but this has put me off. Time to play some more Dark Souls.

I'm scared. I don't want my Udaloi to become a normal destroyer. That thing is an awesome gunboat.

Nope, those were made of ice too, as were the pilots.

Looking at warships today, a rough estimate makes PVP twice as played as PVE.

If you sell a ship and then buy it again at a later point will you keep the permanent camo? Just how permanent is it?

That's fair enough, I also feel like that might happen. Just don't want cruisers to go completely and leave it as a DD vs BB game.

Still not finished the Hunt for Graf Spee, been very busy with work in the New Year. Hoping to make some serious progress on both this weekend with the 500k credits missions and a kutuzov with gamescom camo.

It makes that class more easily accessible for people if every game is not 5 BBs per side as they don't have such a high chance of being instantly deleted. It will also make AP cruisers more powerful and reduce the prevalence of HE spam as cruisers need to worry about taking out other cruisers and not just BBs. Cruisers will hopefully fear pushing caps less and games of domination will be less decided by DDs.