Bladezfist

That's the opposite of what flamu discusses in his video on the T8. It's pretty much fire AP at everything and do lots of chip damage. HE will fail to do any damage most of the time and the fire chance is pretty bad without DE. Royal navy light cruisers have a better chance, Better torpedos (Same range, less damage, more tubes, faster reload) and better AP damage. Your one saving grace is invisi-firing.

Was really enjoying the Edinburgh before the shift, now I am considering skipping the last 40k exp. T10 at least 75% of the time which this ship really struggles with, especially against tons of BBs. Either that or waiting for calmer seas, but if it lasts as long as the T7 god tier that means dropping it for a long time :/

It seems to have gotten much worse since the camo patch though, now the majority of my games in the Edinburgh are against TX and my winrate is dropping rapidly from the mid 60s in that ship. Not sure what would be a good resolution for this, it would be harsh to drop the burden on T6 again, they've suffered enough dammit. Anyone have any tips for playing the T8 RN CL against top tiers? Seems I just get lolpenned whatever I do. I'm close to the neptune so I think I will just take the stats hit and move on, am looking forward to having the ability to use torps as a safe way of dealing damage when sailing in BB infested waters.

They have the highest damage in tiers 3 - 6 (Flint) and then 8 again. 9 and 10 they are second only to the CVs. You can do insane DPM in a cruiser but it drops with many BBs on the enemy team as you have to stay focused on playing defensively. With RN CLs angling stops becoming a survival tool by itself (not that it was great before hand, but being one shot at this Tier becomes more prevalent as you can't angle to 5 BBs and they all massively outrange you and have good accuracy) at T8 as the BBs just don't care anymore with the insane pen from the TIXs and Xs. You need to be hidden behind terrain and in smoke and not play against a battleship who understands how to shoot smoke clouds while still having enough soft targets spotted by your team to achieve super high levels of DPM. TL;DR Other ships may have higher DPM but they have to play far more defensively when there are 5 BBs on the opposing team which results in them having lower average damage. Make torpedos more powerful and BBs will have to focus on playing more defensively as well, taking some of the weight off the shoulders of the cruiser captains although probably leading to even more passive gameplay

I feel like I'd like either a change to the MM (4 BB cap) or a modified spotting system (less accuracy when not spot by yourself). It's not fun when playing a cruiser in a 5 BB game to suddenly become detected and get shot at by multiple BBs before they are detected, which when sailing a CL normally means a quick trip back to port with no chance of returning fire. Of course, this can be avoided by adopting a more passive playstyle when dealing with such matchmaking but I find that terribly boring.

I don't see RU DDs taking concealment as they would have to drop SI, DE or BFT to do so. They have pretty much been balanced around AFT, DE and BFT and no DD would not take SI. Look at it this way, pick three (Not including AFT in this to make the pick simpler as it is mandatory after the recent nerf) 10% Damage Buff. HE fix Extra smoke A tad bit of concealment for a DD that spends more time than any other line of DDs detected.

Please give RN cruisers fog of the fog god until you fix the smoke bug. I'm assuming it will be broken in another 6 months, have they fixed the rudder shift bug yet?

It was designed and built by a private British ship-building company. Not sure how well that relates to the Royal Navy designs though.

You use terrain to get in close like a DD, you use smoke as both a defensive and offensive tool like a DD, at the higher tiers you become more reliant on your torpedos and can stealth fire your torps like a DD. You have concealment at T8 very close to what the Tashkent gets. DDs that come near you are also fragile, it's not rare to delete them in to salvos. Your manoeuvrability while worse than DDs is better than most cruisers. If you are playing them like the other nations cruisers you will have a hard time. British cruisers are the PTFO line imo. You get on cap with your DD like concealment and you delete the enemy DDs and support your own.

It will make the queue long for BB players, I don't see a problem here...

Agreed, nobody is saying to charge in when conditions are bad. But when you have optimal conditions to move in and support your team, do it. The Bismarck sniping has to be the most infuriating thing to see, the ship makes for a terrible sniper and has such an insane advantage over all enemy classes at close range, I end up getting a fair few kills in my Bismarck without even noticing it while training my captain to get manual secondaries just by keeping the enemy ships close to me.

Nah, that's just a feature of T5 atm, it's a horrible tier to play and it's even worse as a light cruiser.

That's the issue though really, for a lot of people a couple of games will be enough to get to the next tier for those ships so they don't get a wide selection of matches. But they are not entirely wrong, my first attempts at playing the Danae went terribly as I tried to stay as far as possible from the enemy. Later I found just charging DDs and BBs was the best thing I could do in the ship, getting a ton of torp hits and kills. Playing it like a low tier US DD and trying to hide round islands and ambush people. After adopting this playstyle I had a lot of fun in the ship and got some great games. This battle changed my opinion on the ship, but I also liked the Derzki so I might be crazy.

Aye a smart BB is a pain in the [edited], but more often I run into BBs who broadside my cloud and aiming above the waterline but below the superstructure (the same place you aim at german BBs) lands me some pretty regular 4 - 8k salvos. As soon as they angle just a little bit you may as well go back to firing at the superstructure though.

Don't worry, they have excellent anti submarine mines and great short range secondary batteries

I think he's making a funny. Seriously though it does get so much better with the Leander and Fiji. You still wont be super effective at dealing with the BB Swarm but cruisers just melt if they broadside you.

I'm liking the ship too but from what I hear it is just a worse Fiji so I might keep the Fiji instead. Not to mention T7 has better MM than T6.

I skipped the Emerald to preserve my sanity and my fun has resumed with the Leander. So far Danae and Leander have been my most fun ships. This was a objectives focused game with a side of Kraken. Less damage and kills than my best with Danae though but MM is much less kind.

There will be games in these RN cruisers where you get blown up by a battleship you couldn't even see in one salvo when you try and play aggressively but on the other hand you get games where you enter an enemy cluster of 3 DDs and end up killing or neutralising every single one of them. Which makes you very effective on a point as long as you don't get one shot.

I feel like these ships would be way way more fun if they released before the German BBs which were strong in the meta they released in. Getting to the end of a match in a RN cruiser is a boring afair, you have dealt with the targets you are allowed to play with and now must hope your BBs are better than the enemy BBs and I think this is the single biggest issue I have with them. Being utterly hopeless in some situations is not a fun game mechanic regardless of how strong you are in others.

I have had quite the set of ups and downs grinding this line today in the T4 Danae. The game previous to this one I was dropped on by bombers at the very start, instantly wiping out 60% of my HP and then while seeking refuge in a friendly destroyers smoke I found my teammate very helpful as he instantly put me out of my misery by hitting me with 8 torps, sending me off to the next game with no compensation for team damage. With how the game started, I wasn't even upset. And then...

I have a 100% win rate in the T2, 3 and 4 but I don't think they are great ships. The belfast on the other hand I have a 76% win rate with over many more games and I do think that ship is OP. Stats are not everything.

I've opened 10 and got 2 supercontainers so far (Try your luck) and they both had credits in them, 15 million in total.

16 battles in it so far, 81% win rate. It certainly is strong but more so due to the consumables (which really need to be premium) than raw damage output. Being able to neutralise all of the DDs on your side of the map makes you very powerful without you needing to do crazy amounts of damage.

I noticed this as well, I did not expect them to be as popular as german BBs due to BBs but I see 1 - 2 of them per game (T5 - T7).