Gudgeon

The question which should be asked, why are subs, CV's and the tier 10 hybrid BB not allowed in the King of the Sea "contest"? Surely they are completely balanced in regard to all other game classes and help produce varied and interesting gameplay. It is the same reasons the game is losing players, hand over fist, who are disillusioned with game, as it currently stands, and no longer wish to play.

No. If you encounter a sub player who can use the keyboard, you will basically be food. No fun for you.

After being part of a battle that lasted 5 minutes 37 seconds, does anyone else have an even shorted battle duration?

Regrind.

Thread open since 2019, nothing changes, teams just get worse and worse. Regardless of the class you play, you can guarantee that a player or two in another classes will send themselves back to port in two minutes and the next stomp begins. Things will never change. And this happens at tier 10 and superships........

Ah, the famous smoke and radar combo. Sounds like fun......if you are playing it. Otherwise.....yeah. Even more, "play the game, get punished for it" nonsense. How about trying to make the game fun, which rewards good play, instead of flooding the game with more unbalanced broken nonsense. This game has just become a broken mess of 10 minute smashes that have no tactical element whatsoever, due to all the broken mechanics taking away any element of surprise and ambushes etc. This game is just a COD or Fornite click fest now. Why just introduce respawning, and premium account allows you to have a 90% quicker cooldown on respawn time? Bored of all this nonsense.

I think you will find that we had 30K+ players, ON EU server, at peak time daily, back in the day. Now it is 30K world wide EU peak time. So much for expanding player base numbers. Anyhow, make your own choice - if you want to pay for battlepass then good luck to you, no one else cares about your choices. But "pay for battlepass" and get free stuff????? Then it is not free, sorry.

I am not even talking stats.....I am talking playing badly which then results in your team not being able to play for the win. Anyone can farm damage in this game to feel like they are "doing their bit". People losing ships in silly ways results in losses. Btw, why would anyone wish to lock their stats in this game....you probably run the Match maker monitor with locked stats I'm guessing? You might want to earn a better destroyer badge too, or are you using reverse psychology to fool us in battle? Who actually cares what numbers a player has on his account, it is about having competitive battles, not landslide victories/losses in 6 minutes due to unbalanced teams.

To be honest, 60% of the players present in this game are effectively clicking a "Grief" button that is actually labelled "Battle" at the top of the screen, judging by their gameplay in a given battle. The game is horrible these days because of this. You may as well re-label the "Battle" button "Scuttle" , "Throw" or even "Time waste", to be honest.

Yes you will able to buff your re-roll account good. Shame no one else will be playing the game.

To be honest, this game is not going to last two more years. Without new players coming in and learning the game, it is done. If "new" players are attracted in by subs and they get a tier 8 early access sub, they will be next to useless on the team. The MM will probably put a super unicum in the opposing sub. The main problem is WG do not want to make mid tiers fun, they want to push the 42% WR players to tier 10 and super ships......and subs and CV's. And this is bad for the rest of us.

Sorry, I was joking. In all seriousness, mine updated on Sunday automatically, so if you have the above settings, I am not sure why your launcher has not downloaded and updated the game automatically. Check your auto update settings.

This could be a good thing. Look on the bright side, usually the game becomes a little bit worse after each update.

If the bulk of the spotting is on DD's each game, a sub has neutralized any DD on the enemy team, meaning that, unless your DD's are super potato, they have free rein to win the game....THAT IS WHY SUBS ARE BROKEN. Once a sub has nothing to "try" and counter him, the damage farm can begin with homing torpedo's.......WHICH ARE ALSO BROKEN. Still at least CV's are getting automatic ASW........it would not be good if the protected class in the game had something existing that might damage it.

Just think how much money this game could make if it was enjoyable. 50% of this game involves getting grief that you cannot do anything about.......Super ships, CV's, dodgy game balance, super unicum player opposing super potato player in a key ship class, the list could go on and on. Still they keep adding more content that breaks game balance more and more. Enjoy. There is a reason that the new players are merging onto a "common" server.....there are no new players, or they cannot be retained, as low tier play is basically horrific and there is no way to really learn the game until you reach a minimum of tier 6. By then, the up tiering at tier 5 and and 4-6 CV's aside at tier 4 will have destroyed any motivation to continue playing.

Yes, they really do not like the Zao. It must be something to do with most of us already having the ship, so little income can be gained from people grinding up the line to a "new" tier 10 ship. Power creep and neglect in a nutshell.

This cruiser line (along with a few others) would be much more attractive and playable if unbalanced cruiser lines from a certain nation were adjusted to be more in line with the rest of the game. Plus the steel ship. Plus accurate BB's at high tier. Only masochists' play cruisers at high tiers these days. It is far too easy to slap cruisers at high tier with BB's. Power creep has ruined this game tbh. The problem is, recent new lines introduced have not been able to compete or add to the power creep and you do not see that many ITA DD's or Pan Asian cruisers in battle. I cannot see this line bucking the trend. The game is in such a tangled mess of unbalance and power creep that it is impossible to unravel now. The best advice for high tier play is to play BB's or destroyers that can torp/gun from the edge of the radar scourge range and then hope your team gets an advantage early on and then the range can be closed to start closer battling. Or pick an RU cruiser and use an island to protect you side and farm with rail guns.

In the game of World of high tier accurate/favorable RNG Battleships, tooting around in a HE spam/torpedo cruiser at high tiers and no gimmick like smoke to try and hide in is not really the best way to get gaming satisfaction in this game. A pass here I'm afraid. Add in the RU cruisers at high tier with rail guns and armour, this line looks dead in the water before they even hit testing.

Proof that balance by spreadsheet is flawed if the formula to calculate "balance" is 2+2=5. I find submarine battles very balanced as you can a) ignore the sub and get homing torpedo's on you constantly, or b) attempt to hunt the sub with the "comprehensive" ASW weaponry supplied, that is totally RNG based, and basically get yourself sunk by the rest of the enemy. How can anyone think that this is not anything but fun? Even better when your sub player is munching on his keyboard, while the enemy sub player can at least push the keyboard buttons. Chuck some CV's into high tier submarine present battles (either RU or super CV's) and you are in for some really tactical, engaging, gaming fun.

I'll be serious now, I'm afraid the player base has generally found its level due to the game mechanics/interactions, in game economy allowing bad players to make money at high tiers, lack of tutorials, no real need to improve at the game but yet it is still possible to progress to the next tier where only time is the players limiting factor, and yet still these players are having "fun" (I don't know how), so they keep logging on. Sadly, if the players this thread is aimed at no longer wished to play the game, I'm afraid this game would rival world of warplanes for player numbers. That is sad. It is possible to tolerate bad teams (you can do more yourself in a bad team) but for me it is the CV nonsense and the new joke class, submarines, ruining the game more. Adding in broken supership nonsense also and consider why, generally, the worst players on the roster are always in the superships....).

I know your pain.....you want a nice convoy game and someone brings a Cherbourg to the party

They are all different play styles. Do you like gunboats (Black), torp boats (Z-44) or a something that does a bit of both (Neustra)? I think the USS Black has been powercrept from release. Too many 12KM RU radars, subs and Cv's now + tier 10 DD's with radars. All are good in their own way, but none are game breaking. Choose the one that fits your preferred play style.

OP, what you suggest would mean that you would only have bots to play against in your CV, as I think player numbers would plummet if we have a scourge of CV's, added with the other fun class to play against........submarines.

What has actually changed? Taking six torps in my Nelson from a sub with little counterplay, seemed familiar from the last "public test".

The only game that keeps introducing classes and mechanics that erode game enjoyment.