Isoruku_Yamamoto

Heck, ill be sailing around with a green/pink striped camo with a yellow conning tower if thats what it takes to still get a flint or black XD So hey, if WG decides to make those camos exclusively obtainable for the winners thats understandable, i just want the damn ships (Black is 2nd option for me, but okay)

Whaaaaaaat my friend couldnt get a 10 point commander yet, he got the saipan for free. So i was helping him out a bit XD Its utter troll mode though, to see a CV panic when they find that they are 1,5km within your AA range when you activate your defensive AA. And you can pull that joke like 5 times in a good battle

True, plus the credit earnings of WoWS are already way better, both gross and nett In WoWS i encounter loss games much less often (WoT all the time at tier 8+), and incredible profit games are not rare (try to fix 150k profit in a regular tank in WoT with no premium or bonusses, 450k in WoWS is doable ).

I absolutely love the atlanta and i regularly use it to div with a saipan (even though those dont need aerial backup it still is a major troll cause i got a stealth AA build) Id love to have the flint cause of smoke & torpedos, would be specialising a captain on that combo then (or the atlanta cap is gonna remain CA cap and flint would be gearing cap)

I agree, but the system right now is also mainly based on hard grinding and not so much on skill. Even so much that i hate playing through the mid ranks (15-8) simply because you lose so often by scores like 7-2, with me being the one who made those 2 kills. I dont know what columbus' egg here is, but the system shouldnt stay the way it currently is IMO.

best solution IMO is to make point requirement for single ranks higher (up to double), but take away the penalty points. Now i understand that AFKs and lame ducks will be an issue then, but underperforming by being AFK too often could just be penalized by setting someone a full rank back (after a 1st plus 2nd warning?) The penalty stars are the problem in ranked though, you can play really well, die and have some lame BB outclass you by 100 XP cause he survived. He keeps his star, you lose yours while you did 8x the team performance

teamkiller status is currently very easily achieved. The fact that you only did 4 damage does not mean the mechanism only counted 4 (im not sure, but you'll have hit him for more damage, he just didnt have the HP). Kills are also penalised quite heavily. On the bright side: the current system also forgives you fairly quickly, so you'll be pink for some battles & after only 3 battles you're already back to normal. Devs know that the treshold is low at the moment though, i believe.

But i also support that, its just that i'd like to save the frustration of grinding through hundreds of battles with ranked teams that are not working well. Like how i compared it, the missouri, musashi and kronstadt have a bit of an own position (lets not bring up the nelson, no one likes the nelson right) due to the extreme amount of free XP. If it becomes as hard to get the flint or black with steel & coal as it is to get one of those, or at least comparable, then it still is quite an achievement. And coal or steel in premium shop? For the love of god, please no indeed!

Hahahaha finally something we fully agree on :D Open up those coal and iron mines, Flint here we come!

Fair, and yet i do really appreciate that you could get them in this way. ive been seeing to get both for a long time now, yet i am always disappointed with the ranked seasons. Reaching rank 1 doesnt say so much about skill either, more about a tonload of dedication in 1 (or 2) particular month, which i myself could never bring up so far. Obtaining them with coal and steel would be more like owning a musashi/missouri/ kronstahdt: like you said, reached by grinding a long time, but as long as they dont become very easy to buy they will still be very rare. Especially because you can spend the currencies on signals, special upgrades etc as well, so you'd have to dedicate yourself for a long time to get a flint i suggest & then i think this would be a great way to save ppl like me the frustration from ranked (and ill admit that i got some frustration there).

Thank you, this was what i was reacting to @Aotearas And as long as its a portion I would be okay with the idea, but if it'd be a lot i feel its unfair to very active players. On the other hand i do support the idea that it could help less fanatic and less progressed players in still achieving nice goals.

I hated the tier 8 part so much i didnt even make it to tier 10 battles. Tier 8 is utterly boring for progressed players, while tier 7,9,10 and even 6 or 5 are much less so. (IMO) The idea of various tier levels in itself is very nice though. Id like more irrevocables in the 10-1 range also, that demotivated me to keep playing too. (even 1, at rank 4 5 or 6, would be awesome)

I think this season was absolutely horrible, since tier 8 is very boring for progressed players at the moment (at least, in my opinion). Tier 7,9,10 or even 5 or 6 is fine, but by god, please not tier 8 again

All right then, coal and steel are not mentioned on this page, but on every single other topic on the arsenal they are, fine. Perhaps im taking a short turn there. But; youre saying im making crap up and thats just nonsense, i've got my facts straight man. Can't help it that im well-read into the topic. The dude was referring specifically to use the wallet to get your whole clan to have radar mods, which BY PRESUMPTION would be obtained through the arsenal- you cant get them with creds- so yeah that be about steel and coal eh?

Hihi i could even learn you how to rape in a langley. Would you like a couple of trial lessons some time? Then add me to your friend list & stalk me when im online. The tier 4& 5 CV thingy is anoying, but not that bad. Tier 6 MM? Only annoying if you end against tier 8, rest is hilarious Tier 7 premiums? You can outplay any of them in a regular, but ill admit a well playing saipan is difficult to beat Tier 8? Yeah, the tier 10 is annoying, but you can force this down a bit by division MM Tier 9 & 10 are amazing

This was said based on the list of potential arsenal purchasables. The arsenal is expected to use coal and/or steel as currencies. Now next time you guys are making me look like an idiot first read back on the topic to see if i really am. I understand that you guys may not have been talking about that, but i was, and i was reacting on someone earlier in the topic.

Let the dude himself decide okay. I encourage him to start playing CVs, in fact, Cluid, if you want you can join my clan & me and the other guys will be more than happy to train you as much as we reasonably can. If your RA plays up too much for you to continue playing carriers then battleships will always be a good option, with which we can also help you. But i suggest you try first if you want to- and you seem to want to- i just wouldnt advise you to start buying premiums straight away for several reasons (discounts not being the least, but also not the first). I've got a Saipan myself, the USN line up to tier 9 and the IJN line to tier 7 so i can tell you quite a bit about both. Again, well be happy to have you.

Now hold on there buddy, you have to imagine the following: Anyone who wants is welcome in my clan, i only have my own clan so that I am in command of building the clan buildings etc. But: - I have more oil farmed than pretty much the other 7 players combined - the #2+3 have more than the #4-8 combined. - My members still have influence on what we build, in fact the #2 and 3 can even build buildings, but do so with my approval (theyre friends) - If anyone would need credits i'd gladly help them with that, so a wallet on that would be fine with me (dumb 10-20% credits voluntarily/ automatically into wallet for common spendings, cool), BUT We were talking about a coal/ steel wallet here for the arsenal. That would be a bit like oil in the clan buildings, except for personal use/ personal gain. The oil principle is fine with me, since it takes me quite long to get a clan building, but its kind of fun to get them all and i dont care about my comembers profiting from what the top 3 does. For coal/ steel however; i wont be collecting resources to gain someone elses flint until i got the entire available fleet collected XD Now that may sound selfish, but if other players want that flint they could play for it right?

Well i'll have it depend on what else you can get with that stuff, if signals are too expensive i'll rather get the ships instead :D I saw a flint in that list, now i already have the atlanta but man i wont be passing up that opportunity

Theres a regular "Modules" bundle way lower in the list (just above the ships i think. Maybe that could be random drops, with a chance of those?

On one hand they keep being inaccurate with this (US cruiser slots), on the other hand: free stuff, and WoWS is really quite generous compared to WoT. Its additional XP so hey. I agree that 250% would be nicer though

Haha that would be fun- A mechanic that distinguishes why someone is reported and based on that they must watch instruction videos, or they cant play XD

Yamato = troll ship. Murdering a poor yamato is great too btw, i think i murdered exactly OP in my Missouri a while ago, would have to look it up in around 400 replays so im not going to, But yes, the Yamato dies easily for what you'd sort of expect. But god, those guns :D oneshotting montanas and stuff Last battle i played in it started with a 10k on gearing, then oneshotting a mino- OP just needs to show this sensitive japanese lady some more love

Fair, but as a very active player who happens to be a clan commander such a system would bring me in a dilemma. If it were only based on activity (solo player performance) I'd simply get all benefit from it, whereas with clan performance (oil) more people benefit. This scenario would make 1 person benefit, by clan performance. But if you look at player activity its much fairer if its based solely on solo performance, or maybe that 10% of all earned steel and coal stacks up for clan use (sort of free XP). Then you could help out smaller players but it wouldnt really hinder the active players. But i really dont like the idea of a common wallet :S

If you experience trouble with your hands id basically advise you to go for the USN carriers, simply because they have less squads to command. They still are very powerfull in my opinion. On premiums i'll go with what the rest said; make sure you know what you're buying before you do so, cause Carriers are a class of there own. Also; WG tends to have summer sales around mid-july so if you can make up your mind by then you can probably pick up a saipan or kaga for only 15eu (I'd advise you to go for a carrier of the nation you're playing, so definitely not the Graf Zeppelin, also because its very specific in style). But for now, first test that stuff, get some battles & think about it a bit