Isoruku_Yamamoto

I can confirm BBMM is a very nice clan, i merged my own clan with them recently to start playing Clan Battles- and succesfully so, we have been playing quite a bit already and promoted a league yesterday. Has been real fun. No real pressure, we're just tyring if we can make stuff work as a team, which really has an added value to the "community" aspect of our clan. Would love to have you around ;)

And concealment expert got nerfed too, for anything thats not a destroyer. I really, really, really, really hope you guys are just testing the global idea of the skills and not the actual implementation here, because this is absolutely abhorrent what youre doing here.

The BFT, AFT and manual AA rework is huge- and completely uncalled for. Major nerf to all AA spec cruisers. In the least this means that all commander skills should be reset for free, not just carriers. The whole skill system for CVs seems dodgy, weird and thought out in a pub rather than through proper thought.

While thats true, thats not what i'm talking about, neither is it what the multipen issue refers to. Multipens refer to a shell passing through multiple layers of armour, by which it can exceed fusing treshold which it normally wouldnt. This is why the whole AP on DD thing was an issue in the first place; a battleship penetrating a destroyers side would then hit mid-section armour, which caused the shell to fuse inside the ship while it should actually be an overpenetration. Bit complicated to explain to someone who doesnt know the entire mechanic, but okay. With citadels its the same thing: first the shell goes through regular armour. If it then has sufficient penetration capacity left, it will also pass into the citadel, unless it has already detonated before reaching the citadel.

For all of you complaining about the multi-pen issue: while i think you're partially right in that its weird to solve it in this way, it should never be scrapped altogether. The multipen "bug" is a beautiful mechanic that allows us to shoot citadels (without it that wouldnt even be possible at all- citadels are a secondary armour layer within the ship), deal citadel damage through bows- which i think is a good thing under the right circumstances, superstructures and so on, but all in limited cases. I think through the current change however many BBs will feel very underpowered against DDs, especially since cruisers largely ignore DDs in random battles unless they are at close range. Sure, a New Mex can still oneshot pretty much any tier 6 DD, but at lower ranges.... and they still have to be as stupid as they needed to be before. My suggestion: introduce BB vs DD citadel pens, dealing 1/3rd of the nominal citadel damage (previous pen damage). I say this as both a BB and a DD player, because as a DD player i sort of object too- i like how cruisers ignore us, the DD fleet, so much now, simply because they feel BBs should take care of themselves :D

..... Which is exactly why my recommendation for the kronshtadt is to aim the salvo center (i.e. just aim) just above the waterline, because if you aim at the waterline itself you'll do less damage using a kronshtadt. A yamatos shells perform way better if they first have to go through some meters of water

I have 64k average in 15 battles in the Kron. I'll give you that i'm definitely no expert on the ship, but if you'd like to present that as a reason that i'm completely wrong with my advise: go ahead. Topics is asking how to citadel a seattle & im giving advise. If it doesnt work, i'll admit it. But me having a "low" damage count (only 2% under average after 15 battles, plenty room for improvement) in such ship doesnt seem like the most valid reason to instantly write of my ideas. No need for the flaming. In addition; your own post shows basically exactly that my guidelines are quite correct. You are shooting citadels in the situations that i described, but okay.

I said high-caliber guns didnt i? With the kron you can just ram straight on the armour, you'll have much less overpens anyway. Thing is; many people tend to shoot above the citadel hitboxes & are then surprised that they don't hit the citadel. If you hit the waterline you're always at the citadel hitbox, question remains whether you'll pen. With the kron you'd be best to aim slightly above the waterline, such that most shells dont hit the water, but do hit the waterline-region

Well sometimes i find with high-caliber guns such as the Yamato that aiming at the waterline really works amazingly well. Or even a tiny bit below it. So don't aim for the actual citadel, but such that the shell basically has to "penetrate" the water first- you'll prevent most overpens in that way. Not saying its 100% reliable, but it works okayish

You know, getting the Musashi in itself is not that complicated, which i can easily demonstrate by the amount of Free XP i obtained since i got the Missouri. Ever since i accumulated over 1.15M free XP, but the problem is that i also bought the kronshtadt with that- and some modules (maybe <150k on modules). Right now i have 410k sitting, so i doubt ill be able to get the Musashi. As for buying when wanting (and can ofc): i agree, but i felt like i'd sort of appreciate the Kron more, since i already have a Yamato. I just liked the idea of a second Yamato. I'll just stock up for the alaska, or whatever shows up. Alaska better be really good, cause i already got myself a salem using coal (and i couldve gotten the musashi using coal haha). Tiny chance that i'll be able to collect 100k coal in a months time, though i really really doubt it and id need the musashi to stay in store until at least 25th of december then

If i read this correctly i will be gaining a tonload of free XP simply because i have the entire US line. Thats a bogue, ranger and essex in free XP plus a number of modules- i'm expecting over 300k, proving my point about the whole musashi / kronshtadt withdrawal. Will it be possible to choose which tier 8 premium carrier you want to have instead of just getting the new saipan (i have the saipan...)? And are premium CV sales scheduled soon after the release of the CV rework- more specifically, for doubloons in game, such that we can trade them? Another bright point IMO is that i have renewed hope for the IJN carriers, especially since my grind is stuck at tier 7. Now i'll be stuck at tier 8 instead, but thats a lot closer to tier 10 right

Look im not saying free xp is going useless. I got the missouri and kronshtadt using free. Module/ship research is a waste imo, but okay. Comm training is fine too. But i am only saying im a bit surprised theyll be pulling the musashi out so quickly, without us having a proper chance to get it (... Unless you didnt get kron or you play insanely much). In itself again thats fine, but there was basically a 100% hint in the CV rework articles that you could make this happen- but that turns out to be too late. Im excited to see what new options there will be. Musashi seemed nice, but not that intriguing, so i can imagine there will be a better alternative (i read something about a tier 9 USSR DD ;) )

This is an important one though. I was hoping to add the last 375k for the musashi by selling my midway with the carrier rework, but i guess thats not happening then. Shame. I do have both the Kronshtadt and the Missouri. Missouri is amazing, but they hard-nerfed the sigma (they wont admit it, but they did). The Kronshtadt is a pretty nice ship, though a bit strange. Right now i'm thinking i probably will be keeping my free XP for the follow-ups of the musashi, since the musashi is not that special (and i got a yamato+camo already).... I'd much rather have a tier 9 russian DD or something alike instead.

Well, before the gearing got its fletcher torps the fletcher was the straight out better pick too right?

I'm actually pretty upset about one detail here: Kronshtadt and Musashi will no longer be available for Free XP purchase coming update 0.8.0. Musashi is currently also available for coal, that will end too. Now all in all i understand that there's this whole rotation thing going on, but: - You have been teasing us with the prospect of CV to Free XP redemption, allowing me to trade in my midway (and possibly essex) to start lower in the line again, while gaining tonloads of free XP- plenty to get my musashi. And now you announce that you will be removing the musashi- before this will happen. Thats annoying man. Can we at least expect a huge discount on the musashi? In free XP cost that is?