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yes really. no they changed the torpedos because there were too many IJP DDs just because of that fast, stealth, long range torpedos. they were so damn easy to play. and you didnt even need to be a skilled player to get a good game with them. with a little bit luck you could get amaing results. they only made it little bit skill based for IJP DDs. life was really easy for shimakazes, now they should take some risks. it has nothing to do with bbs getting torped. yes yu are right there are really bad bb players but that torpedo buff should avoid you to punish them. actually 2-3 shimas were ok if they were the only DDs in that team. but i remember getting 5 shimas and some other IJP DDs in the same team and it was ridiculous. limiting the number of DDs was a good idea imo. a DD cap with 3 would solve the DDproblem. but i guess wg wanted shima players to show some skill too. LOL did it happen to you? probably he fooled you. he let you think that he is gonna continue saling in the same direction with the same speed an this made you think that if you launch yout tors at the indicaor, you will get a nice devastatin strike. but then he turned in by reducing its speed and dodge them. i guess he was probably a experienced BB player and did the right thing. but that benson was a really bad player if he did what i wrote here. yes if they go alone they desrve to die. nothing changed about that. if you find an alone BB with that new super fast torpedos. you will be able to kill him. nothinghas changed about that. If you dont predict the movement of the target and just launch your torps at the indicator, you will hit only he unexperienced "bad" players. and that also makes yu a ba DD player.

it changed. yesterday, for the first time in this game shimakaze torpedo wall ran out before they reach my ship. (i would take only 1 thou but still). that means a shimakaze launched torps to me but becuse he didnt want to take risk and get close, he failed with his attack. this is shimakaze players never had before. now they should plan their attacks more carefully. so it is simple, take risks, show skill by getting close.

long range torpedo spammers are nerfed. play the dd properly and you will feel the buff they got.

your solution was completely wrong and you cannot call this an accident. when are you people going to learn not to torp if there is any chance of hitting your ally? "he was turning away" he is a dd, you cannot expect him to sail in a straight line for long. he turns away and he tuns back in. so im glad to hear that you got pink.

not at all. 20 km torpedos didnt require any skill at all. just spam in the general direction of enemy fleet and wait. if there is a radar ship stay at 11-12 km and spam torps. it didnt look like that it required any skill at all. you can not limit the ammo. if you do that for one ship, it would be unfair and you have to do this for all type of ships and imo its wouldnt be a step forward for the game. no i didnt see your vids send me a link if you want. but, what relation do your vids have with that topic anyways?

its not unplayable. tell me, why should shima not take any risks while everyone else taking so many risks in every single battle? it is playable bu people are used to spam torps and let them travel 16-20 km and get some lucky hits. its not like that anymore. shimas need also show some skill and thats how it should be. and today i had 2 tier 10 battles. and in both of them shimas were at the top of the scoreboard. even in the first one i was second with high calibre, confederate, 182k damage. as you see, skilled player doesnt have any trouble. they actually got benefts from that patch. and i suggest you not to whine further more because you started being funny.

all other players have to show skill too. but now the shimakaze players also should show skill. and this afraids people like him because he wont be able to sit in the safe one and spam torps without ay skill.

Dont do drama here. Its dead for long range torp spammers like you. Its time for you to show some skill, to press some more a ,d to escape. Get close, take some risks like other ships do, you will get even better results. But there is no need to cry about new torpedos.

Im not insane but i guess you are not a capable dd captain. The only ship who can spot shimakaze before getting spotted is kagero. Other dds has the same concealment or the worst one. You can fight an other shimakaze its equal. And gearing can hunt the shima but shima is faster and it can outrun gearing easly. With a little bit survival skill you will be fine. And no cruser was actually a counter to shima. Radar affected usn dds. It didnt affect shima that much. Because shima captains stayed away from radar range and spamed torpedos all the time.

Like i said it is a nerf for long range spammers in this case for people like you. Before this patch USN DDs were useless because of long rabge stealth fast torpedis of shimakaze. and we always saw many IJP DDs but too few USN ones. Their main duty is hunting other destroyers. And now they will be able to do their job. No more 0 risk gameplay with shimakaze. You have to take some risks if you want good results like others ships do. If you say no i dont want any risks, no one is going to tell you not to use new long range torpedos.

No more long range torp spams. If you want stealth torpedos, get close, show some skill and get your torpedo hits. And by crying like that you are being funny.

Every ship is situation depended. Not only shimakazes. Before the patch there werent a true counter to shimakazes (exept cvs) Now i hope there will be.

Its not a 100% nerf. Its a nerf only for long range torpedo spammers. For people, who play shimakaze some skill based (getting close and being sneaky), it is a buff.

Did you really think that they are gonna even discuss this idea?

why do we get after every f*cking patch lags and DCs?

i suggest you not to continiue calling me some names. it would be better for you believe me. there are some people in this game called "damage wh*res". ever heard about them? for example bb damage wh*res. they shoot the enemy bbs all the time. cas, they shoot and burn cas or bbs but not the dds. and dds, they dont spot and they only try to get some damage and then they claim that they are actually being more effective for their team. could you recognise that DD damage wh*re profile? is it smilar to you? edit: i didnt check your stats before but i did it now. and i see there is no need me to try to explain you something because im sure that you are not gong to understand. so keep going to free exp until tier X.

did i say anythink about stats? i know it depends on situation and told the same. if you notice i mentioned a specific situaion in my post. but you told how you play shimakaze and its not the right way. by playing so you are not helping to your team. if you think that stats are not important and nobody gives a fck about them, why did you state in your post that you gave up spotting and that you started plaiýing selfish and improved your stats? " not spotting early on and losing my ship is increasing my (teams) win rate and my damage output"

oh today and yesterday i got perfect examples for that topic. yesterday a tirpitz in a div with hemelin! yeah in a hemelin f*cking tier 1 ship. and today a tirpitz player who has only ca 200 battles in total and an average damage with tirpitz 19k. so what the hell is this guy doing in a tier 8 battle? what if there is a good. tirpitz player in enemy team? the team, which has that tomato, has a hge disadvantage.

well yeah thats something to be reported. "i dont open fire with my guns" seriously? shimas guns are awesome. it doesnt make any sence to fight with a gearing if you dont have any backup. but for example 2 shimas can easily kill a gering with guns. so what do yo do if you spot an alone enemy shimakaze? smoke up and run like [edited]s?

It would be awesome. I have more than 5m exp on my ships.

A very big NO. I have seen new tirpitz players and they cant do anything. They are just -1 to your team. What he is trying to do is %100 correct. Learn the game in low tiers, get experienced; then jump up to high tiers. Because having a guy in your team at high tier battles, who has no idea what to do, affects the game too much. But in low tiers its not a big deal. You can have much less ships than the enemy and you can still win in low tiers. But in high tier battles its not that easy to do that. Example: imagine that guy playing tirpitz and do nothing in a tier 8 match. Than imagine this guys in wyoming doing nothing in a tier 4 match. Which would have the bigger effect?

well you are a terrible team player and if i saw you doing that, i would report you. and it wouldnt be only me, anyone who has a little idea about the game, would do the same. you grinded until the tier 10 and you are saying that if you spot for your team, you die? then you are doing something extremly wrong. and its pity to hear this from someone who has more than 400 battles with shima.

do you think that i or other decent and good players call the losing team noobs automaticly? of course not. even the best player can lose battles. i mean real [edited]s. and if you are not happy with that game, you are free to go and play "real free games" you gave as example. devs cannot sell a single sh*t from your suggestions. they are just [edited]. skins for planes and ships, seriously? music pack? most of people play that game even without game musics because they use teamspeak or smilar programs.

when i saw the thread, i remembered a retard in my team, who torped me 2 times in the same battle.

Its not a lose lose situation. first of all battles would become more fun and more competitive. and this is the biggest win situation because we all play this game to have fun. and as second, tier 9 and 10 is not to make huge profits. people expect making huge profits because they sail those mighty tier 10s. but no. if you make profit, go lower tiers and make your profit. for example tier 8. its perfect to make credits. i really cant understand why people whining about tier 8 economy too. and its not that hard. and someone who cannot make profits with tier 8s, sorry but they shouldnt be in high tier battles. i suggest them to continue with tier 4-5 to learn how to aim or dodge etc.