ghostbuster_

they are definitely not UP. they just depend on RNG too much.

this is a new game and it continues to develop. people grinded for cvs and they were changed. people grinded bbs, citadel mechanik was changed. people grinded for russian DDs, they were also changed. so as you see, IJP DDs are not the first line which was changed.

yes a little bit. to shoot a broadsiding target for example. when you aim at the target, you have to see a little bit water between your aiming line and the ship.

if it happened to me, i wouldnt whine here just because of my own mistake.

yes they can get in situatons that they cant do anything. but its also not special only for shimakaze or IJP line. there are sitouation for all ships that you cant do anything. my question is why should shimakaze or IJP DDs have less risk than any other ship class? before the new patch and before the radar they had very low risk exp. with the lack of cvs. but now with new skill based torpedos and radar they have also risks like other ships.

yes this is the point. " they had other options" which were very sweet for bad palyers. thats why im saying we had ridiculous number of IJP DDs. 11-12 km torp spamers...

unless someone can disproof an argument, you can go on with that one. thats what i did. i also stated my reason here but long range torp spammers still continue to cry.

no its easy. i meant there bad players are playing cas that way. they dont act or they cant act to enemy in time and they got citadeled. thats why it was much more easier for them to play IJP DD line.

good players were doing this with old torpedos too. they were trying to get close to a bb like 7-8 km to smash him down. thats why tey feel like they got a buff while the long range torp spammers are feeling the nerf. it is hard indeed. but its is hard for all classes to get great results. exp. for cas. one lucky hit to the bow of your ship can end your game right there.

unlike you he doesnt act like a loyal member of DD mafia. so i would be happy to discuss this with him. Edit: oh did i say member? that should be something else. actually i know a perfect pet which fits to your loyalty to dd mafia.

yes bad players had more chance with IJP DDs and shimakaze than all other ships. you can also find out the reason by yourself. imagine bad players playing cas: smashed by other bbs or even by other cas. i had a perfect example today. i was in my roon and there was a zao in enemy team. i hit him with 3 citadels with first salvo to his broadside. and he didnt even change his direction. he was shooting at me. i tought that he was a bot but bots shoot the closest target but i wasnt the closest one. so he was basicly a bad player. think bad bb players. smashed. with IJP line all they had to do is stay behind 11-12 km and spam torps. it seemed lot easier to me.

Of course its about torpedos. long range- fast torpedos lead even the worse player play that line because it was really easy to play exp. with the lack of cvs at top tiers. and because it was really easy we had too many IJP DDs in a single team. now its not that easy. they have to get close. and we dont see that many IJP DDs in battles. actually i started to get normal battles with 2-3 DDs.

if you are interrested pm me and i will show you some good bb and also ca captains mentioning the problem about high number of DDs in battles at top tiers. after that im not telling you. after the patch i have seen any IJP DDs at the top of scoreboard. seen shimakazes with high calibre, confederate. but i also saw that ships at the bottom of the list. this is because the skill difference between those players. be a skilled player get good results like you do with all other ships. be a bad one and get bad results like with all other ships.

they werent bad aerroon. exp after the 5.3 patch, when they gotvthe long range fast torpedos. the probem was we had too many IJP DDs at top tier battles played by people who doesnt know anything about the game exept staying behing the detection range and spam torpedos. that was jsut because of long range- fast torpedos. and that lead us into battles where we had 6-7 even 8 IJP DDs. like i said many times here, before the patch shimakaze didnt require any skill. with a little bit luck even the worse player on earth could have great results by spamming long range torpedos. now short range torpedos are even better. but all you see here is the whinning DD captains because they will have to get close to do something now. they have to be skilled to get good results. i guess you would agree with me about all other ships to need skill to get good results. now IJP DDs need also.

1.try to sail with your BBs safely and let me have some fun with my shima. 2.you are right. there are clueless players playing each class indeed. and we see here clueless shimakaze players whining since the new pacth. it is really so. i have never seen a good shimakaze captain complaining about new torpedos.

if you make mistakes, there will be some consequences.

a friendly ship cannot just come from nowhere. exp. if you that close to him. learn how to use minimap.

if you feel like a moron yeah go through the middle.

this doesnt [edited]mean you cant use your guns.

met capra today and he got me a perfect torpedo salvo. i was sleeping i guess.

they are not trash maybe you cant do anything with them. did you consider that posibility?

Ehhm how about staying away from clevelands?

Nope. Its not. Sitting at max range with a bb doesnt make you earn more credits. And invisfiring or shelling enemy behind an islands it depends on the situation. There is not an specific thing to do for playing good. You must be careful all the time yes and with all classes.

Repair costs are just fine. Play good=make big profit. Simple as that.

Mate i heard this a lot here. " crap shima guns" those people are just [edited]s who cant think to use their guns because they sit in a torpedo boat.