Earl_of_Northesk

Just so you can't edit that out...

Last page you said that the Scharnhorst guns have 100mm more peneration. Then you go on posting a table showing that KGV's guns are superior at any range. So how the [edited]does your statement still stand?

It actually is. So please answer to this post. Because the source you mentioned but probably have never looked at completely contradicts your argument

The rule of calibre progression was made up. It doesn't exist and I suspect it was only brought up to justify Scharnhorst being premium.

How do you explain the fact then that your results in your last 130 games are almost identical to your results in your last 500 games? How is it that my winrate has stayed pretty constant over the last 2000 games? Some people....

Up to this point, his display has been pretty poor and will continue to do so. He as zero arguments. Really, absolutely non bar "14-inch guns!". So I'm looking forward to clubbing him again when the line arrives Slow turrets wouldn't be a "gimmick" and I bet a lot of people would take increased accuracy at the expense of slower turrets. That's just personal taste right there. They gave us those "unique" RN CL's because tbh, they are pretty uninteresting and crappy ships. They are neither particularly well designed nor recognisable. What we have now is their attempt to fix that, whether we like it or not. We don't have that problem with the BB's, they are appealing just because of their historical significance. All the other balancing factors you mention in your second paragraph are impossible to use, since those are dertemined by the real life stats of the ship. They won't just nerf armour or buff gun calibre. T3 Bellerephon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellerophon-class_battleship or maybe Dreadnought, but I feel she might be a premium T4 Colossus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossus-class_battleship_(1910) T5 Iron Duke https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Duke-class_battleship T6 Queen Elizabeth https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_Elizabeth-class_battleship T7 Nelson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelson-class_battleship T8 KGV https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_George_V-class_battleship_(1939) T9 Lion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lion-class_battleship T10 ? I don't think any of the later Lion proposals would cut it. Maybe a modernized N3? I really don't know.

Probably nothing. Not everything needs to be special.

The moment you are the only one speaking for a certain point, being overwhelmed by quite a number of people with clearly superior knowledge, is usually the point where you should consider just being wrong. But I have long assumed you are just sticking to your argument for the sake of it and you can't admit you have been wrong. Keep doing that.

Oh look, he's back Your arguments haven't become better over the last month I see. When I saw this coming up again, I hoped for some genuine discussion and not the well known "KGV T7 bruh"-troll. I'm sad. Back to the actual topic, I think the line is pretty much set from T6 onwards with the exception of us not knowing what the T10 will be. But what do we make of the low tiers? I once thought they might include battlecruiser like they did in the Japanese line, but ze Germans have proven they won't do that with nations which could possibly field two different lines. There is still a shitton of candidates for T3, T4 and T5. Bellerophon maybe for T3, with Dreadnought being a premium? Collossus class is pretty similar to Kaiser, which would make her a good T4 but also a bit boring. T5 then is really difficult. KGV (1911), Iron Duke, etc...

Ich hab schon vorgeschlagen, dass er sich doch mal in der Beklopptenmühle blicken lassen soll, damit er ordentlich zugespammt werden kann

Nice one! Aber bist du jetzt echt aus unserem schönen Städtchen nach Paris gezogen?

Was? Die Nürnberg ist Mist, aber die Königsberg ist SEHR stark, vielleicht der beste T5. Die Yorck ist nach den Buffs auch nicht so schlecht. Die Hipper leidet ein bisschen, aber das tun leider eigentlich alle T8 Kreuzer, kein gutes Tier für sie. Die Roon ist sehr stark, die Hindenburg auch. So, wo ist das Problem? Ach ja, lern mit ihnen umzugehen Sorry, musste sein. Zur Spee sage ich mal nichts aber der geleakte Torpedoschaden ist [edited]. Da läuft immer etwas beim Datamining falsch, der liegt meistens so drei- bis viermal über dem tatsächlichen Schaden.

Es gibt nicht genug 15cm Designs um einen Baum zu füllen. Auch nicht von T4 ausgehend.

Tbh, that's not the same. I thought so once as well, but I got taught a lesson. Being top tier in a high tier battle, either as a T9 or T10, requires quite a different skill set then just sailing a long as a low tier ship with relatively smaller influence on the game.

There's nothing to counter, just you whining. I agree we should have unified events, but thinking NA has it better is laughable. They complain all day because they never get their ARP stuff, they always get premiums last and other things. Every server thinks it is treted unfairly.

They mostly go there for sealclubbing tbh, because the average player on US is distinctivly worse than on EU...

These are the first 3 qoutes I found in the very first thread on the reddit frontpage. Feel free to investigate further, I'm sure you will find more.

You realise that I did say there's something on reddit, that I did ":" and then provided various qoutes from the first reddit thread I found, which I wrote in a different font to make that clear? Here's the link btw, it's the VERY FIRST reddit thread on the front page of the WoWs reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/WorldOfWarships/comments/5akx37/we_adjust_our_missions_to_our_server_demographics/?st=iv00ofss&sh=ece64400 That's where the qoutes are from. Good god, some people don't see the forrest because their view is blocked by trees...

It's nt like everyone in this thread is only complaining is it? It's a general thread. And mate, the complaint abaout Atago and Takao begun when they first announced it. Personally, I don't like the idea of giving the ship away for free as well. If you really want to, feel free to dig through the posts of the last 2 months. You will find a lot. But also as of today on reddit, some posts only a few minutes old: Takao should not be given out to players who only have Tier 6. But apparently your envy is getting the better of your brain. yes and good for them, i cant even imagine the flood of inexperienced players in high tier games or even worse in RANKED after this in NA/SEA I'm sure that WG EU is just wary of what happened on RU when everyone with a tier 6 got a takao and decided to play ranked with it. Random battles are STILL full of Takao players who can barely use the ship in any effective manner. Ranked was ruined due to some teams having 3-4 Takaos. So, here you are.

You realise I refer to Atago? I even understand the complaints. Look no further than reddit. And other than you and a few vocal others, nobody is complaining at EU as well... Oh, and Fingers is at it again of course.

The funny thing is: the oh-so much better treated other servers right now are raging because every man and his dog gets the ship they had to pay quite a bit of money for. Here, it's the other way round You won't ever get it right I assume.

Sorry man, but rushed to the top tiers? This game is a year old. You have nearly 1300 battles under your belt, right now you play A LOT more games per day than I do. This mission should be easy for you. 60 Battles to get a T9, maximum, and a few high tier battles to get the 50 wins. What exactly are you expecting?

"Close to" and "exactly at" are two different things. The distribution of players winrates is the best evidence we have truly random RNG. The effect you describe is exactly what RNG is you tool. To truly elevate its effect out, you need thousands of battles. 10 games where you "feel" (and your feeling is probably wrong) you have bad RNG don't mean anything.

You do not have any idea what statistical analysis is right? Or how RNG works in this game? And what a self-fullfilling prophecy is? No, you don't. No, I have never experienced something like this. A mechanic like this wouldn't even make sense, what would it be good for? I hear a lot that it shall ensure everyone stay around 50% winrate and gets a good game once in a while, but the funny thing is that a truly random RNG will do just that, but better. So please, stop that crap.

Haven't just heard turret position is controlled serverside? So what you are saying is impossible. What is probably possible is to mark the muzzle flashes and while I'm against such a mod, that isn't of much help really.