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Mit der Maas auf andere DD's mit AP zu ballern bringt auch nichts, da kannst du erst ab T9 mit anfangen.

Das war kein globaler nerf.

This is now how I expected to use my forced knowledge in statistics, but some points here: The issue at hand is highly likely to be a victim of selection bias for two main reasons: #1: It is highly likely that people without the "issue" do not report back as they have no concerns. So people which got more containers at the beginning are probably overrepresented #2: it is also likely that people who did not get SC's at the start gave up on it (I know such people) and took regular containers. Thus, they never reached the state where their luck would have turned. Just my two cents on the matter

You know something called balance? These are very dangeroustorps. Yes, they lack alpha. But they DO have: A. a high DPM because of a high reload B. a higher probability to hit due to their speed and concealment C. a higher chance to get a flooding that sticks due to A and B D. contrary to your statement, a rather good range (only the T10 and T5 can't hold up with the very best at their tier) Additionally, this is only the second line in the game in which every ship can stealth fire torpedoes without CE. Believe me, these are highly effective torps. And seriously nothing a BB would wish for.

random as in there is the same chance every time you TYL, independent from previous times. See my example with balls in a sack.

Sorry, but they clearly didn't. Should the small window of stealth firing be their only incentive of buying those ships (and I veeeeery much doubt that) they should have probably looked at it more properly. We all know and we all have always known that these are pre-release versions. Again. it's not ideal, but I neither see intent or bad will here and I fail to feel sorry for anyone.

It's still only 2 ships affected. So it is a good case If you remove stealth fire, you can buff those in another way. And also, note that these ships are OVERperforming. Not performing at a regular level, but OVERperforming. So they can take a nerf, which was my point and still is.

So at most, you had what, 60 TYL's in that period? Entirely possible for that to happen if the drop chance is around 2%. Just imagine a sack of balls, 98 are white, two are blue. Every time you do a TYL, you reach into that sack. After that, you put the ball back into it and shuffle it.. You would be surprised for how long, mathematically, you could reach into that sack without ever getting a blue one.

As far as I'm informed on the droprates, this is nothing unusal. I had more luck at the beginning as well, then gotten 2 in a week last month again. I also know people which were very annoyed that they weren't getting any at the beginning, you don't see those anymore. Also, some peoples memory might b blurred by the fact you got 5 SC's right at the start. As someone who needed to delve into statistics quite a bit the last year ( ) I can tell you that right now, this being a random event, it is entirely within the expected to not get any SC within 200 TYL's. It is also within the normal range of events if you get 5 within 100. It's just that people who haven't recevied one lately are more likely to report that on the forums, especially if they had more luck at the start Statistics are a strange and annoying thing

So, no reaction to the fact you just straight up invented something I never said? Okay then, Good manners indeed! And sorry, so far you have not provided any feedback other than "T6 is crap, I will sell them all". Not much to work with as an opinion honestly.

The thing is, which cruiser actually rely on stealth firing? We can pretty much discount everything below T8, because people are unlikely to have CE at thus point. So, what is left. T8: Mogami, Hipper, Atago, Edinburgh and New Orleans straight up can't. Kutusow doesn't need to. Chapayev does to some extent. But it is already th strongest performer at T8. T9: Neptune, Baltimore, and Roon can't. Ibuki can, but only very limited window, thus also limited in use and it certainly doesn't rely on it. It's the same for Donskoi. T10: Okay, I MIGHT mess something up here, I don't have them all! But Des Moines certainly can't, Moskva can't either. Hindenburg might have a small window? I don't have it. It certainly doesn't rely on it. Same for Minotaur. Zao can use it extensively and it does and for some miraculous reason, it is the strongest performing T10 cruiser.... So cruisers could do just fine with small adjustments. As for DD's, yes it is a possible play style on some. I'm not using it on any of mine and I perform far, far better than my server average, so it might be just something people will need to adjust too. I'm against such excessive firing penalties like the German DD's get though.

Mate, you are just INVENTING statements I NEVER made. How am I supposed to not be annoyed at this point? And although before today I never clashed with you on this forum, I have read your previous interaction with the community. What you have done to me in this case you have done to others before, and it's just poor manners.

It is just my opinion and in my opinion, its one of the most stupid mechanics in the game. It also encourages gameplay I don't necessarily want to see. You adress the wrong person here, as BB's are my least played class, excluding CV's. Although I do play all of the classes of course, with quite some success. I still don't like the mechanic.

Just go away. You are not adding anything to this forum, you are clearly just here to troll people and you are just making up statements I never made. Seriously, you are, straight up, lying. I have never made any statement like that regarding the T3, T6 or any of the high tier DD's here. By the way, there isn't even a T1 DD. I fail to believe they wouldn't have done it anyways. Nothing was nerfed here, something was released. There is at least a bit of consumer responsibility as well. Also, it is not like this hasn't been known since the patch hit NA more than 18 hours before EU release.

They did not inform them about the hydro nerf, it was already there as it is. And sorry, I still don't see the intent. I don't see how people have been "burned". However enormously stupid I think it is too free XP to T8-T10 right at the start, people that do that will do that no matter any actual gameplay. I also do think, as with any rebelancing in this game, that things get blown out of proportion. Again, this was far from ideal, but I don't see how anyone can complain beyond that.

Pretty much this. It annoys me as something that is totally breaking immersion, not so much gameplaywise. Inventing something like Shiratsuyu and giving the German DD's very fast, stealthy torps clearly contradicts your statement.

So, the literally best torpedoes at T6 aren't good enough for you? And you have yet to realise you can just chose the 128's whch will have way better reload and range? Okay. And sorry, the T5 isn't all that good, but how can ANYONE not like the T2 to T4 He is a known forum troll.

If you did not have fun with T2 to T4, you have done something wrong!

Please explain to me what use it would have to do this with intent It's a late change WG seemingly, for whatever reason, did not thought was important enough to warrant another round of testing and a release delay. As I said, not ideal, but I just don't get how this is so important so some. And no CC lost anything either. And Flamu was late. Probably the lastes one of the bunch. What iChase & Co did seems to have happened somewhere mid last week.

Da das Ende von Stealth Fire (SOLLTE es passieren) ein globaler Nerf wäre, wäre die Leningrad hiervon sicher nicht ausgenommen. Das hatten wir auch schon einmal beim Thema AA.

Kamikaze was a fuckup, but that wasn't a balacing issue. I agree it wasn't ideal, but the reaction isn't ideal either. And yes, you will do get that reaction, we have already seen it in the past. Also, balancing is a very delicate issue to the community (sometimes for good reason) but the reactions are sometimes way over top as well, so there is a reason why WG does keep a bit of secrecy. And yes, apparently they have seen the need for further rebalancing of the line. However, they have not pushed anything due to the release, they screwed over some CC's and their videos. That's something different in my book, although, AS STATED, this isn't ideal either and I actually do think there are rather easy ways to fix it. I'm sorry, you have some beef with me, but I haven't been known to be a "fanboy" before I got into ST and I am not now, maybe you just need to accept that I have a bit more relaxed view on some matters than you have.

Because WG knows how much the community cries when a line is delayed...you won't make everyone happy. Imagine Tuccy issuing a statement like "Hey fellow players, the German DD's are finished, but the patch won't happen a the announced time (or patch) because first, our Contributors need to have time to finish their videos on them!". Then imagine the reaction

The apology stuff is melodramatic. I don't know why the decision was made, as I obviously don't have access to the numbers. But with German BB's, we have just seen the same thing as they suddenly got hydro and the Kurfürst gained HP. British low to mid tier cruisers gained the HP repair party. So yes, it's far from ideal, but I don't get the need for and the tone of the appologies.

Not really. None of those ships were able to realistically stealth fire without a 15 point captain up until you get to the T9, as you will most likely use the 15cm guns on the T8. At T7, nobody ill realistically have CE. That's something you need to keep in mind when seeing those videos, th commanders used are highly unrealistic in most cases.

Personally, demanding money for something that does not give you anything is the worst moneygrab of all for me, it's just the same in CS. I don't understand how people can do that, but apparantly, it keeps the game going, yes. Different perspectives maybe.