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can you comment if our (and by "our" I mean mine as well as some others as obviously not everybody shares my opinion) feedback about that aggravatingly unfair p2w XP mission has reached home? (as well as play 500 games ........ afk or using bots basically, if most team you get and run into are a measurement) I mean look at that: That is not even good enough for THIS WEEKS mission. and sry Al (ilhilh), I like you, but I call deeply bullshi7 on that. There is a difference between "theoretically possible and can be expected from people" and "not being able to rule out without a doubt". I give you another term: "highly unlikely over the age of the observable universe" -> So if we reach that, is it p2w then? Look at the result above and then tell me your opinion again: - is that Fletcher a poor player that should l2p? - is that Fletcher a T 2? Lowtier? Midtier? for what I know there is only 1 tier above the T9 of a Fletcher (and you can watch the replay if you want - he kills one T 8 and the rest are 9/10s) .... and yeah I know, there are those crazy games with capping AND a killing spree that net even above 3k base XP ( I probably even had them too); but for that see the first paragraph. -> You cant expect people to get them reliably _at all_ within a certain week or month ... Well I would understand it and even expect it ...... esp. when I think of the Kami event where people who unknowingly as well as some knowingly got away with huge and even hugher loads of free xp. I concure with the Quote from Vuk on that: ... its the same thing like WG not even trying to punish aimbot user in any way.

Was to be expected in the first place - p2w you know ....

Where t-h did you get that from?! and btw .... €: TBH I would rather have more (aka "certain") people STAY in co-op.

I agree.

I also completed everything .... so no complaining. ....... but again that mission is fu<king impossible without premium. Only 3 caps needed? Totally not lucky games .... all skill. I looked through my last weeks games ...... and esp. the DDs ones since I played a lot of them: I had a few games in which I shot the enemy to shi7 (generally) -> not enough. I had a few games in which I shot the enemy to shi7 in a DD (like 100+ k with Onion-Voi via gunfire) on a -no-caps-map -> not enough. I had a few games in which I caped 2 times and shot the enemy up pretty good - not enough. I even had one with some DD fights, 2 caps and one assist - not good enough. I came close, but without premium I would have failed that mission I think (didnt look through all the stuff ...) and remember most players will be T 4-6 ...... maybe 7 and at least half of the games HAVE NO CAPS you can cap multiple times. I dont know about you, but maybe I am just to noob but I am unable to reliably do, for example, three times the (roughly required) 180k damage Fuso games a week .... (3 times to be able to call it somewhat reliable) ... so I guess its even easier for the "normal player". It certainly is for all premium users (and not only because of the bonuses but also because of the likelyhood of the additional use of OP as fu<k premiums) - and now with 2750 xp thats like 200 k damage in Fuso for example .... totally doable for everyone. plz keep the screens of that base XP in a midtier ship running - without excessive capping !

Like I said: this mission is completely undoable for a regular player without high tier and/or (more importantly) premium time! (yeah and high tier DD lucky capping also counts into that because of high tier) I hope this BS doesnt come around next week again ....... ...... actually would be nice to hear what the red-shirts can say to that?

A Kirov with more armor, arcs from the Donnie Darko (or Donald Duck whatever you prefer), better rof, better pen, access to steering gears and defensive fire and they still QQ ? I take that over the regular T 6 ship any day .........

The problem with Hipper is that the performance doesnt depend on you, but rather the enemy. Its a cruiser ..... so it dies to EVERYTHING. Its HE is godawful .... its AP is good and packs a punch, but only if the enemy lets you score those citadels. If they are smart you wont pen (or only occasionally) and lose the HE duel to again EVERYTHING. Its AA is ... well good enough if the CV is lower tier and you are AA specced, but not really stopping any CV at going at you or damaging your allies. ... still not going to sell it. Its a ship want and thus keep in harbour.

.... and that is not a good thing, at all! Especially if there are 2x2 Sky-Plagues in the teams! This is from yesterday, my last game with Sky Plague in the foreseeable future: There might be an additional play-Sky-Plague-mission and then I will get the kills .... or when the end of event draws close. ... damn Sky Plague ...

Oh they dont need to nerf them if they dont god damn overbuff them or have them be OP in the first place! I love how a lot of people say all the p2w advantages are negligible but the moment you ask them, for example: - to start a new 1 pts captain on a high tier ship - impossibru! - retrain, with credits only, a high skill captain - impossibru! - play without a captain higher than 10-12 pts (because thats what you can get without p2w if you also include 1 + 2 ) - impossibru! - you ask for the roles to be switched around like Atago tech tree and Mogami premium - impossibru! - ask them to play a stock or partially stock ship - impossibru! - you ask the horrendously OP ships to be balanced - impossibru - because I paid for it (buffs and more buffs are fine tough)! ... and yes there are a few horrible premium ships, and I am not fine with them either. I will continue to give WG shi7 as long as that situation persists and not buy any p2w stuff from them. ...... and usually I dont give premium ship owners crap, since I hate the sin and not the sinner, but dont expect a speech that trivializes the matter to pass uncommented by me ... ... and still the higher credit gain, the higher exp gain, the gratis combined camouflage, the free captain choice and training, lesser repair costs, more affordable prem stuff (if you choose to run them) (higher likelyhood of flag earning through all that before combined) ... all that is not enough, no, the ship has to be OP as fu<k on top!

I also dont understand how smoke is supposed to work now for gun dds at all? €: and by that I dont mean the (fu<ked mechanic), but the aspect of smoke being useful for a gun-DD now. Lets see: - I need (for whatever reason) to pop smoke and I slow down, so I would usually only blink once (maybe twice) ... Now I get spotted at least for 6 (2x3) or even 9 (3x3) seconds and since I slow down everyone fu<king opens up and I am dead! - Ok, not slow down then? You go out of your smoke time and time again, and with that 3 seconds your are constantly spotted! Great smoke, but I want more than to put a strain on their graphics card! - How about not slowing down and laying a smoke wall and retreating behind it? Fu<ked as well because the poofs from the smoke are not like a smoke wall or a stroke from a paint roller, but instead rather like a distorted string of pearls. Thus when you retreat "behind" them, there are only some small "smoke islands". Further all along laying the smoke you are spotted, and when go "behind" you are spotted form a random ship _constantly_! (because of 3 secs) that has line of sight to you between the "smoke islands". I hope this shitty paint is understandable: This leaves what? Not shooting for 20 seconds, sneaking into effective gun range, slowing down! (and maybe be fu<ked if a IJN DDs outspots you), then pop smoke, then fire? So that is what? A minute of preparation for some 20 seconds smoke firing? Ridiculous .....

Check page 1, post 1 the link to the progress site is still there. alternative: check mainpage news for the event - the link is still there.

I honestly expect a peek at the german BBs or something similar. Remember, 4th of june is 2 1/2 months from Gamescom and a good time to start the hype ....

Met DJ in his Kami while running with Loran and Live. I was torturing myself in a Zuiho ..... and this game went like a lot of games today: Loran way over 100 k damage in his Texas (all losses, carry harder man!) and even I got 95 k in the Sky-Plague, but nope .... Either you kill everything by yourself (/division) or you cant win. .... DJ torped me even in the end , and I thought we had an armistice when I "only" spotted him with my planes (fighters) .

except that it also tells you the speed of the target from the lead the aimbot gives you ... and yes, while nothing I would ever use, that would help me. .... and even so: that is still hits gained via unfair and illegal methods. Further, there are always moments in the game where the only protection against a citadel is: - rng - the enemy to dumb to shoot - deceiving the enemy via speed changes. I dont want to lose 2 out of 3 ....... Imagine a cruiser comming at you or going away from you with lowish and changing speed -> the cruiser cant realy a-d or he is dead ... only W-S -> against that the aim bot is excellent and we all know that cruiser are citadels from all angles -> go figure.

Aim botter dont get banned ..... or hell even punished in the slightest way for using it. .... and somehow I am not even surprised.

Robbery at gun point doesnt count as conversation , as well as being shot by the police for the wrong skin colour, religion, breathing or simply randomly without any repercussions to them. I think its down to the range of the player base: I figure the enclosed CAT or CBT was also way better than the wide range of "players" (can think of other words here) that now haunt EU.

nope it is base xp, but with premium taken into account! First win or flags dont count: for example that Sims game? 10 k seem impressive and nice ..... but: 1,3 (premium ship) x 1,5 (premium) x 3 (weekend first win) = 5,85. So 10000 / 5,85 = a meagre 1709 xp game ....... so a "regular user" gets told by the game at this point: come back when you get an additional 800 xp. Or as a final value: total 14625 xp. So immagine the game telling you 15000 xp, or GTFO-Scrub! ^^ ;) (and that requirement is about to rise even higher if we take the 50 % xp flag into account ... ) ...... and thats with high tier ships. Try getting 2500 base xp within a week in lets say a Kongo .... .... and yeah, I had 24xx _base_ xp game without premium and the game told me to gtfo ..... but again, the reason why I am not pissed about that is in a earlier post. YES! This event + weekend x3 are horrendous ...... its steamroll after steamroll mostly for either your or the enemy side ... big fun - not. My biggest gripe is not only the really atrocious play, but rather when its combined with being a fu<king coward! Winning? thats optional anyway. going after a DD that capping in your hydro equipped cruiser? loosing ist totally better than a additional 5 k silver repair bill. so what if a BB goes in and spots that DD, will you at least stay close and shoot the damn thing? Nah, retreating to max gun range and not shooting until the BB is dead is much better since the torps cant get that far. ...... or hell people are so full of shi7 that they cant be bothered to show up with their top tier CV in the first 6 minutes of the match, because "they had to fetch themselves a beer". Honestly let me post-match-TK them. I have no probs with being pink and holding back a few matches until I am grey again. Half of their repair? again no problem, I am not afraid of that. ...... not even talking about the botting, and the afk on purpose ..... -> totally not foreseeable with that 500 games a month "no regular player" (either ridiculous time spent or fu<king boting/afking) can achieve.

I have to say that I was at first pretty pissed about that XP mission, because you know ...... premium counts. Imagine asking premium users to get 3750 XP while for the rest 2,5k is enough...... not so funny any more, isnt it? So, I didnt give them bile for a reason ... because, coincidence or actual brain usage, there was this great mission with the free premium time, and thus anyone _could_ get and do it. So kudos WG (now fix the damn SA bug!).

yeah ...... we are all stupid and its totally down to this: Deanna Troi OP, plz nerf WG! and dont trust my word as a (relativly) new DD player, trust the CA and BB player that now suddenly sees stupid shi7 from DDs because of the "new Deanna Troi" spotting game after game ...

Lets see: - Not unbearable pay 2 win like a lot of the completely ridiculous OP Premium ships. (no buy until fixed) - Not ridiculous bad like the remaining rest of the premium ships. (see above) - not pay 2 win in another way. (general rule) - WG is lately less constantly pissing me off .... although the SA-fu<kfest and their position of denial and ignoring is still unacceptable. - something I can actually use. - its not something to buy to essentially not play the game. hm yeah seems I can spend money on that. although I recognise thats still less "madness" compared to "some".

nice tone there so I guess you would like the answer in the same tone: If its so easy with those HE spammers I fail to see the OPnes in your stats in ....... EVERY CRUISER OR HE DESTROYER up to tier _8_! . There is not a single ship higher than 25 k average damage. I did more damage in Kolberg and Karlruhe - and those two were/are probably the shittiest ships around in the game! Oh and plz dont buy ships like the Atago, you cant use at all, and then go and ruin everyones game in the higher tiers ..... or at least stay in co-op. So in total: I hope you allow us others in the meantime to continue to use AP, even tough we are severely constricting ourselves with RNG oneshots, high calibres and krakens. P.S.: Just from the hitrates alone, I can tell you are one of those hiding and "I have the range" type of players in your BBs. I would give you friendlier advice, but again that tone, so grow a pair and go in: Then your BB guns will magically start hitting and wrecking stuff. Totally useless T 5 BB shells .... totally agreed. Notice those 2ndary battery shells? Thats when you actually go in and attack 4 ships alone and up close, instead of watching your team die and prey like a vulture for you team to eke out a victory, with those long range shots. P.SS.: I averaged 40 damage per HE/shell once (with more than just a few fired).... I never managed that with AP. Go figure ....

If that is a blindshot then I never fired a accurate one with the target locked ^^ ;).... but yeah lets see what WG has to say .... So far using Smoke in any way is a gamble - I now often try to restrict my smoke use either to provide cover for a friendly or the get the fu<k out and only as a very very short distraction to the enemy.

this essentially: (and yeah, I played that, I am that old ) ........ (stop staring! no ponies this time - what else do you want? ) _______________ Me goals will be the doubloons and the port slot ..... the rest can wait till I have a better gras of what I want. ______________ So finally get to play ........ look at this thread how innocently it all started out back then on the mid of page _4_!

come on guys, there is some really nice stuff in there: Dubloons, port slot, premium time, flags ......... mostly for cheap/free. Did you really expect a Tirpitz free of charge? (although I hoped for Mikasa )