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The only problem this map ever had was all the cowards and idiots who needed 10 minutes to go north/south (and in some cases: never ever in the whole length of the game) of the islands at their spawn. Instead they were camping behind them so either the enemy got all the caps for free or their team got slaughtered because half the ships are hiding.

I knew I could get over 100 2ndary hits in Nassau (in-cop) even without AFT. and no: both damage and set fires are abysmally low ...... but is fun. ^^

I think we all know that by now. ^^

Yeah, like a toothache . Fred OP? (dunno since I didnt meet or play it yet) but as a general advice: Just use "accidental torpedoes" on him - his torp protection is week. Imagine he is on your team, that might help with the lead.

Not against other DD, but if those are some sort of internet-flame-induced shells from guns with a slow rate of fire but a ludicrous fire chance, they might be used to burn down BBs and CAs (ontop of CA-APs-citadels ofc). Its not like WG doesnt love to pull crap out of thin air. Sektret Duck-o-ments comrade! Sekret Duck-o-ments everywhere!

So no carrier .... hm a cruiser whose main selling point is killing BBs ... that would for sure a sight to behold. Well there are always the Royal smokers and german DDs with totally not-cruiser-guns coming.

(I hope I left enough of reverence material so everyone gets it):

Undertandable, but that pain will never go away. You can division up with guys you like and that makes it easier ..... but it never ever stops. Keep some T 5-6 ships you like and play them for credits. If you look at my tier distribution it clearly shows a peak around 5-6; for me those tiers a also more fun than sitting at 20 km and watching paint dry .... the timer to run out.

NOOOOOOOO I need you to drag my [edited]from König to Bayern ......... on the other side I might reconsider: ev0l-Loran-aiming-hacks might steal all the HP before my shells get there. On topic, I am glad the french FINALLY entered the game after the Waldsterben caused by the USSR-sekret-Duck-o-ments. So for this time only, and without any translator (or trollish intent^^): Regardez, regardez! Un bateau de bataille et la c'est tres joly. Envoyez les "noobs" a l'enfer avec les 2x4 devant, qui est-ce que tres chouette. So either the french will either hopefully recognise the friendly gesture, or they want to torch me anyway after "bateau de bataille" (like I had a vocabulary to choose from ). (Nah, I am probably save, even the french cant spell french words correctly. ) Now we need to get actual Italian ships into the game ... schouldnt be to hard: WG can just wash of some paint on those, they fancy themselves to call "russian/ussr" ships.

I would pick this one. If it turns out to be really a pain I would suggest switching to something different. ^^ So far I only bought port slots (to give you an idea what effort is needed to get to something like a T8, or even multiple ones) and a Murmansk (which I probably never use again outside co-op for reasons which would make for a long explanation and I honestly dont feel like typing that down ^^).

Well the E-Mails with the latests PTS rewards are out (since Fr). While ofc not written single-handedly someone had to do some work there. So I guess its some life sign from the bunch. (They hinted that they would do more than just lurk the forums. ^^) Also the rewards are now valid until 12th of September and not just 3 days like the last time, which is a rare but thoughtful insight considering NO ONE knew when the rewards would be handed out and if they were then able to cash them in a timely manner.

[edited] Well its your thread and if thats your wish, I will respect it. You might add: Cruisers have a lot of drawbacks and get punished very harshly for the slightest-, or even no mistake at all. On the other side their supposed "strengths" are lacking the same devastating (or any) impacts towards their supposed counter - victims. This is augmented by the fact that a cruiser takes tremendous amounts of damage from anything within the game. Usually on their own cruiser on cruiser slugfests are the only way of having a similar short and brutal impact like a CV attack, a torp spread or a go-true BB-salvo has; but again thats Cruiser vs Cruiser .... and the other classes dont need help fulfilling their roles.

Yep, and definitely my fault. He posted again, probably couldnt figure out the ranges again and told some other ...... well things that would cause moderation if I called it by their proper name. Well the evidence is there. I am not wasting any more time with the guy as the ignore list also there for a reason, same goes for educated personal for those special cases. Everyone is invited to look at the succession of screens with their data and timestamps -> and draw their own conclusions. Just for your viewing pleasure the same pictures with some fancy explanation that should suffice for everyone ...... well nearly everyone ofc. I can try to make it easy to understand and ID:10T-Error proof, but I do recognise my limits. 1. a destroyer 3,2 km out. 2. the same destroyer still 3,2 km out viewed ridiculously up close with freecam. This in order to establish that the distances indicated are with my ship being the reference point and not the placement of the free-cam. 3. Enemy within range, no torps. 4. 2 seconds later: enemy still in range, torps - unpaniced. 5. The same torps even closer up, so you can see for yourselves they are unpaniced. Also Squad B in range and just lost a plane to me. So I guess I am out of range, huh? Bad thing that only the DP guns are firing; and those got their focused switched to the other squad as soon as the first one droped. 6. Squad B drops and is so deep in my AA-Aura that even the 40 mm are firing. But I "guess" ( ) in reality the Planes were droping from outside my AA range .... that would be only ...... oh just 1,5+ km away from the destroyer. Clearly the CV is not droping that far out, but it doesnt matter as the planes were in my AA aura at 17:11. They would have needed to turn around, fly out my AA-aura, turn around AGAIN, drop, and then get as close as 3,7 km by 17:07 - a mighty 4 seconds! Damn those are some really fast flying and turning planes, we should really nerf their speed below that of actual ingame shells. So I hope you did draw you own conclusions. How a squad can rest inside your AA aura and not get paniced? I dont know. I thought of tick rates but not possible with amount of seconds spent deep inside the AA aura indicated by this example. Let me just remind you of: Damage model in general. Citadel + regular pen + overpenn all from the same one shells in special. Ofc other combinations available too. "We will patch it ...... someday" "We didint touch smoke since the beta". The famous no-more-citadel patch. Should I go on? Nah, this should suffice.

Wow just wow. I viewed for once one of the ingored posts and didnt get disappointed. Should we mention: 1. It was a replay used to create the pics, and that doesnt show the focus-icon over the squads, or do you realy think I go casually and continously into free cam and then cruise all around the map with the arrow keys? Are you really that slow? So just to clarify it for you: If you think I did something stupid, like not focusing a squad, its probably rather you being wrong and dense again and you should refrain from touching the keyboard until you figured it out. That will probably mean total abstinence from any keyboard for you, which by itself is not a bad thing for humanity to have. 2. So basically AFT and BFT dont count? (I mean the range and the DPS numbers in the very first screen are a clean give away, but not to the "pros" like you I guess) Oh yeah there is that range module for a another 20 % - that would ofc CHANGED EVERYTHING and I would have killed all 72 planes ..... still probably not paniced those planes if resting 11 seconds and being so deep in my AA aura is not enough. Oh yeah and there is manual AA too - that only takes an 14 point captain on top of AFT -> and goodbye Concealment expert as well. In Pensacola no less! I loled. So you gotta go full p2w and wallet warrior in order to try and stand a chance against a cv, and then probably get an additional hefty 2 planes shot down. 3. You should be considering taking first grade again, the part on reading arabic numbers - all those drops were well within my AA range. Or is it that you dont understand that 5 > the numbers in the screens? They are all there, just show me one of those cases when one of the planes did drop from outside my 5 km AA-Aura. .... or actually dont bother as you firmly rest on my ignore list. I am probably just writing this so not another poor soul might get the idea, that the guy that cant even spot a replay + cant read and compare numbers from screens might hold any valuable point. On the last well not point .... but rather personal attack. Let me put it this way: As long as I can beat your reading and associated comprehension skills, your performance ingame even with wallet use - I am probably save from getting banned for incompetence or whatever. One friendly suggestion: Put me on your ignore list ..... (if you figure out how - that is, for I am not going to explain that)

Well if you look at the screenshots the second unpaniced TB squadron droped around 11 secs into my AA-barrage and somehow I cant believe a CV setting up strike-orders on a DD more than 12 seconds in advance. ;) Basically all of the US cruisers T1-8 (and cruisers in general) arent , lets recap, shall we: St. Louis meets CVs and then provides AA cover with 1 km auto-rifles ..... yeah.....totally legit. Phoenix -> totally useless and the midcalibre 28 mm AA guns are actually the long-range AA guns because they got 3,1 km while the 76 mm are stuck at 3 km. I loled. Omaha -> totally useless again with only 3,5 km for both mid and large calibre AA against planes buffed to ridiculous speedlevels on those low tiers. Cleveland -> OK. The one and only US cruisers that I played so far with a appropriate AA suite for the tier - you still gotta pick AA perks and mods or you have to rely on being infamous only and get screwed in the event of an attack. Pensacola -> bad. The guns are not even sufficient for self defence. New Orleans -> even worse. You got the same shitty AA reloaded - thats not even matching Clevelands - but now got up to T 10 CVs shi77ing all over you. So thats the AA-Nation with the AA-Cruisers? I loled. Ofc CVs dont give a shi7 and go for them or the ships they are trying (without success) to protect .... And yes other ships DP AA guns can reach out farther - and then still do nothing. Because bottomless reserves, because shitty AA DPS, because DF cooldown or outright absent, because not even panicing the planes does anything, because paniced dive bomber dont give a shi7 by design, because even paniced TB drops are unavoidable. Of the cruisers _I played_ I think only the Hipper is also acceptable as long as the CV is lower tier - or same tier and you got help. Ofc you have to pick the AA perks and DF to stand a chance in the first place.

Had two run-ins today: Met Jammin in Prinz Eugen, I teased him a bit but in the end the game took bloody revenge: I was bottom Tier with Aoba in a T8 match so I played carefully. I ended up with 26 HE 203 mm (!) shell hits and 2 fires that earned me a impressive 6,6k damage. Perfectly aimed shells against non saturated targets doing absolutely nothing against Gneisennau/Scharnhorst SS. Seems fair, seems legit. HE + fire OP - they need to be nerfed. Also damage system totally not broken. Secondly: Met Vulgarny and his division mates Azell and Czachcia. Me and my division tried to carry to our best abilities but our carrier was AFK, our Farragut lost a meele to a Hatsu (! ) and then our Atlantes were tremendous idiots beyond recognition. (*Insert rant about weekend-wallet warriors here*) I wrote in time in chat that we would need to get back to defend our cap, ofc ignored. Later as expected a Hatsu got spotted ..... easy if you got not 1 but 2 Atlantas with you ....... or so you would think! Because winning is optional. Ignoring chat, the minimap, pings, common sense in order to properly suicide without achieving anything - is not. I pinged the map, I pleaded them in chat to shoot the spotted destroyer right next to their fu<king broadside ..... but I guess it was more important to drive out in the killzone of fu<king 4 Battleships and 2 Cruisers and try to melee a Warspite. Honestly: HOW STUPID AND DENSE CAN ONE BE?! Loran saved my [edited]there after I dodged the Hatsus torps. In the end with "4 ships down from the start" we simply couldnt win. I also got a reminder that the "economy test" isnt there any more ...... I made a 2k profit, and that only because I put on that 10 % repaircost-reduction-flag. -> lol.

Why AA US-cruisers are entirely pointless (at least) T 1-8 if not being the T6 Cleveland: Start of the match and you can see my DP AA guns got a range of 5 km . As you can see the first [edited] is well within 5 km of me - and DF running for couple of seconds. They are about to drop and .... perfectly unpaniced drop with no planes lost ofc. Second highly mobile [edited] coming in, will their drop get [edited] up this time? No why would you do that anyway - cv needs to [edited]. Both groups were inside my AA aura and they didnt get panic, seems balanced, seems legit. But oh! We shot down a plane; and then another one - on the way out ofc! 2 out 72? Damn thats for sure teaching the CV to not drop with a US cruiser nearby! A little later in the same game: [edited]-> we have two ships of the AA-Nation present, two ships which main selling point being AA and one of them being the explicit COUNTER to CVs both by class AND by nation. OFC DF is popped and the CV STILL gets torps in and gets damage. Cant have a CV run empty, now can we? Also that teamplay! You have a cruiser giving a BB AA support, which is totally not teamplay. Then you got the CVs left hand on the keyboard and his right hand on the mouse , which is totally a lot more teamplay of a whole new level that simply has to prevail! Not much later: DF is still on cooldown. Wait, thats not correct! _PREMIUM_ defensive fire is still on cooldown (by a nearly a minute!) and we have again two balance-lacking-formations of a rezidiv of a [edited] coming in. So in total: That measly amount (and I am not even sure if they were all from the CV; could be random floatplanes mixed in there as well) left the CV with enough reserves to at least last ANOTHER GAME like that and didnt even cover the cost for the premium defensive fire. Seems legit.

Remember its about "calibre progression". Lets see that would be one Down + UP (on the same ship if there were a 380 mm option) in the whole line. Remember the "disaster" with Mogami which is their excuse for the ongoing nerfs and gangrape of Mogami (very recent in very long list being normalisation nerf!)? Lets test that against ....... the russians! Always the russians because there every "rule" and everything ever said and promised is no longer valid. Remember UP or equal is ok, while even a single DOWN being in need of being punished by immediate never ending anal evacuation and colonoscopie - at the same time. Orlan - 130 mm. Novik - DOWN 120 mm. Bogatyr - UP 150 mm, DOWN 130 mm. Swinelana - 130 mm. Kilrov- UP 180 mm. Budyoni - DOWN 152 mm. Shors - 152 mm. Chapayev - 152 mm. Donnie Darko - UP 180 mm Tree ends here because "there are no cruiser guns above 203 mm". With more pen than Scharnhorst 280 mm btw. Well, I am seeing 3 DOWNS up there? Totally uniformly calibre progression, comrade! Move on comrade! Nothing to see here comrade!

For everyone that doesnt get it: Its a character from Inside Out ... and the name of said character is the -answer to the question above. .... also: CANT ...... UNSEE ......... JUST KAAAAAAAAHNT.----> Seriously, wtf is this thing in the picture supposed to be? (and yes this is a honest question for once) €: Torpedoe ...... maybe? Might as well be balls or genital warts at the end of the torpedoe. They dont resemble fins, stabilizers, small ruders, screws and all that stuff .....

Oh I do [edited]on TS about cruisers, and at the same time admitting that its difficult to do something about it. (and this is a part simply to long for a forumpost) The most pressing issue that WG cant for fix for their live fix the shits that allows, for example, a Königsberg to die to fu<king 2 shells from a same tier 14" battleship. But yeah since they cant figure shi7 like that out, thats been pointed out for months! They are still happily ignoring it, so what do you expect? Do something about stuff thats more complicated and difficult when they cant be bothered to drag the asses to work on something known and sitting there maybe since the earliest versions of the game? No because you still dont want to meet a CV even in a US Cruiser. You can add to that that all US cruiser that I played so far (T 1-8) still have so shitty AA that they cant really a stop a CV that is at least equal tiered. They might bug him in case of T 7 +8 (esp if you got help or you are in a outright AA group) or are outright useless (5 and below). The _ONLY_ exception to that is the Cleveland which can at least somewhat deal with a T 8 CV considering he is outtiered by 2, although you will still sink in a 1 vs 1, because oh so fun bottomless reserves + DF cooldown + planes still get through and torp and bomb you + fires + flooding. Heavens help you if you did dare to take a HE shell, eg from a DD, then your whole AA-suite is gone anyway. Apparently being the counter class and within that a ship of the very nation specialising in countering still isnt enough.

I saw this one in the news: Its from an article about Seagal visiting another pen pal of him, Lukashenko ...... you know the guy called "one of the last dictators of europe" (imho there are still quite a few left, but thats another story). Here he is seemingly giving expertise and approval of agricultural products ..... but wait! Doesnt that reminds you of something? Something familiar? OFC! Literally no difference. I mean I guess since he was down there chatting with the other pen pal Putin and WG, he could afford to drop by the field and enjoy a carrot peeled by Lukashenko himself .......

I see, but which one is Seagul? *scnr* also "famous". *scnr again*

Had a few good pvp games recently, but this was from yesterday co-op: Nassau is so fun to play with, and althoug they do little to no damage I just love the fireworks from 2ndaries. Just shy of 100 hits. (I will get it done one day with AFT! ) I mean honestly look at that a$$! Which for me in turn translates perfectly to this scene:

Aww, you just saying that because you dont get to hear mit bi7ching on TS, otherwise you might reconsider. I wish we could have reached the vicinity of the cap faster to support you earlier against that US DD. ....... basically, what the afk Atlanta and that the coward Budyoni were supposed to do. That Budyoni though .... But then again good to meet a fellow forumite, always a pleasure mate!

So they guys are hiring this ol pal of Putin? I guess to make sure Russian sekret Duck-o-ment ships are "properly" balanced? Or is the promised pissing off pleasing of esp. veterans in honouring of last years launch disaster party. Also Seagal? Noobs, there is only one way to do that!