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Or something like: So to paraphrase it: Wargaming, not even once! (Honestly, as much as I like WoWs, if I had known everything 1,5-2 years ago, I probably wouldnt have bothered or stayed for the occasional co-op f2p only....) €: also read shirt? ffs ....... I explained myself already in the forumites chan, but this is atrocious even in my eyes.

Thanks to the red shirt for the update. Esp since its not his responsibility and he probably knew what kind of mood and answer was awaiting him. I have no problem giving WG as a whole well deserved [edited] for how they handle things. I am however against lynching of the messenger, or (mostly) any individual. So I am back to making fun of WG as a whole, esp. considering the avalanche of missions/stuff that is going on the ru server. And just so you guys understand: GO! to the ru side and look how big eg the picture of the battleship and cruiser is, to get a idea of how much stuff there actually is. (I choose to put a reidiculous amount of text per screen, and then STILL rezided it to 1/3 for the picture!) Meanwhile on EU: Not even the event calender ...... I can only advise people against feeding WG money. I mean look at the König Albert situation: People are begging to be allowed to throw money as WG. Its not there for EU, so dont buy it ......and by "dont buy it" it means: never. Even if it on sale for 5 € - just NEVER. If I would act like WG does and get routinely begged from people for them to be able to throw money at me, I would probably not change too ......

I think Scharnhorst is best, owning ofc to p2w. Next is Nagato for being multi role. Colorado would be better, but only if its T7 max - which it isnt usually. Then Colorado, AA, Armor, turning circle, accuracy. Gneisennau is .... too situational. The Artillery suite is ok, but rightfully the worst on T 7. If you cant get the torps into play for whatever reason, you will lag behind the other 3. All are competitive (only Scharnhorst ofc being "even more competitive" - animal farm-style) so I wouldn't raise a tantrum over any ranking.

From a medical position I would advise against that. Simple: Torp didint hit you stern, it ran under the stern/rudder/screws and detonated there. Thats pretty close to the turrets magazines, and aside from a double bottom against things like rip-open-damage, there is not much protection there to catch the blast. I dont remember which ship, but it suffered a nearly fatal magazine detonation after a Torpedo detonated "rather harmlessly" on the belt a few metres off. If we would be overly strict: The torpedo could have cause a internal fire, which is not displayed in the game. The shock waves made flooding the magazines impossible, and the fire detonated the inhabitants of said magazine due to rising temperatures inside. For the sake of simplicity only the "Kaboom" is displayed and labelled as such. Or: the torpedo cause flooding which caused a list to either side, which caused a magazin detonation. More than one magazin detonated during/after listing to a side.

Good to know. So every time the british announcer says something highly doubtful, like the status-report about winning the battle, I will just say in TS: "Noodle is talking BS again." ;) *scnr* ;) because I saw it for the first time, but:

: If the afkers, botters, parasites, cowards, noobs, walltewarrirors, etc on your team allow it ofc. Also: Premium ships are immune to "balancing", remember? But just like in the Universe there is a "Great-Symmetry-Break" in the form that alterations in the form of "well deserved nerfs", or even simple reworks (like AA) are prohibited if a single digit is worse - on the other hand: buffs are dearly welcomed and even requested every time. Not to mention the ongoing "(insert-premium-ship-here,-but-mostly-Tirpitz-anyway)-(stealth)nerf-accusations".

Pepsi players need only one "upgrade": This one "applied" to the stupidly high tripod mast radar responsible for the atrocious camo rating; that doesnt even translate to having radar consumable ingame!

The "main argument" is the thing you left out in the quote ...... And when you put in those submerged tubes on BB, plz also put in that you can disable/destroy (ships in this game are considered destroyed when their fighting capability aka hp is depleted) a modern WW2-Era battleship with 3 hits from a vintage like the Kongo (2 of which "bounced") and some other 23 hits by destroyers and cruisers (again some bouncing or not exploding). That would be nice. Every cruiser/destroyer player would rejoice ...... trust me. Reference: The Admiral later described the cumulative effect of the gunfire damage as to, "render one of our new battleships deaf, dumb, blind, and impotent."

Submerged tubes "dont count", only trainable launchers. And they dont count both ways. You cant get hit on the torpedo tube and the room behind it and have your ship lost due to catastrophic flooding damage from that weakpoint .... Btw: There are a lot more ships with submerged tubes in the game, than just those on your list .... Also balancing. Ships like Kongo, Fuso, Nagato hardly need torpedoes on top of everything else. The thing with balancing should be obvious if you look at Kongos AA-suite; with her historical one being way overpowered for T5 (or not actually since those CVs are OP enough for that ).

I will do the following: I will wait until something finally comes up. Then I will take note how long it took them, and start nagging the same amount of time IN ADVANCE for the November calender. That is, if they can get their act together before the 15 th ofc .... at which point I will start nagging and bi7ching anyway. Also its back to the typical EU-standard of not a word ....... It wouldnt be so bad if you had something but the plain silence. They might get some understanding an slack that way ....... instead of disappointment and well deserved disgruntled comments. 1. I dont play ranked. I will play one game to get the free million aside from that I will not delve down into that sewer. 2. Discounts and stuff. 3. I have to take some vacations days and free days before the end of the year. Ofc a event calender might influence some decisions (Takao?)......... if there was a event calender ofc. 4. Its also about the fact that we are back to "standard-lvls-of-EU-communication".

Can we also shove those OP p2w premium ships on that "premium sever?" "I would actually pay for that." (Higher rank) ranked and team battles wouldnt change anyway; since its only about p2w-zov, a-potion, and Torpitz anyway ......

Wow, and we cant even get word on the Calender, or breaking-news-stuff like the 50 % co-op battle-fee cash-back .......

I ran into Tyrendian and his division mate Suppenhuhn in co-op. Needless to say, we 3 landed top 3 on our team. We sadly spawned on different sides and the Map was Hotspot ..... so yeah big map and not enough targets. Got ofc thoroughly the middlefinger by MM by placing the Bayern and theTirpitz on my side. Would have been nice to harvest those juicy bot DDs but nope, lobbing shells without doing any damage is fun too ....

I am actually surprised ...... Its simple and it works. .... but there is no announcement or explanation of the whole affair that I did miss? Aalso, I can only speculate what the RU-Forum must have looked like to get them moving "so fast".

I can confirm the 37500 for my Hipper game. Received no team damage, had a very sucky round and in the end I still got the 35k addition to balance out the big loss otherwise. ^^ I can add to that list: 0 for Tier 1 (no battle fee anyway) 1500 for Tier 2 (used a premium ship tough, dunno if it matters) 3000 for Tier 3 (used a premium ship tough, dunno if it matters)

I still think you are right, Ego. Finally had a game with 0 received team damage, but in the end I still got the credits addition. I still think you should get some sort of compensation if some jackass puts some shell/torps into you, but at least this "mystery" is solved.

Case 1: An ally cruiser shots my Emden (2k repair or rather battle fee) by mistake right at the start of the battle. Little damage but I get 50 % of the battle fee. case 2: A IJN DD thinks second row torping is a good idea, and I sink after two torp hits ...... needles to say: that was more than 50 % damage done to my Campeltown (3k battle fee) as those torps do leave a mark ..... I can see a pattern devoloping here: One size fits all? No big issue in the low tiers, but higher ones ...... €: could also not be team damage related at all: cross-check here: http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/63311-0512-the-grand-pve-high-tier-shaft/page__st__40 €2: case 3 (more pictures this time), team killed yet again: This time the addition (6000) seems more in line with the actual team damage received (the two torps) and not flat 50 %.

Dunno, I made a edit to the first post. In 3 games today I have been torped to death by "friendlies" in 2 and at least shot at in the remaining third ...

Well, I will bring my Hipper and Mogami out later on, lets see what I have to say. ^^ Maybe I had the repair thingy wrong, and its actually a co-op thingy. Will either post or edit in here.

Did you receive team damage? 90 k sound suspciously like half of 180 k. cross-check with here: http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/63510-the-compensation-for-team-damage-is-not-working-properly/

A team player, probably not a Forumite? HEX! Hex, not Hax. For witchcraft is the only explanation. To obey the thread - from yesterday: Its really tense when you melee the bots and at the same time counting the torpedo reload of a Derpski. "Friendly" Derpsky ofc, and played like an "IJN-DD" (if you catch my meaning)...

Fellow Forumite I had the pleasure playing with several times - also he has expertise in martial arts ... and Sauna. ;) I am sure you recognise his forum presence if you look up his avatar. Also he is on YT: https://www.youtube.com/user/Kenliero/videos

Things like that would require heavy scripting. I am very doubtful about WGs abilities in that regard. Look at the state of the bot AI in co-op: I was able to lead 8 (!) enemy ships into giving perfect broadside to the rest of the team just because: OMFG DD. MUST KILL KILL KIIIIIIIIIIILL!!!. - Ignore everything else ofc (even torpedo armed cruisers and/or battleships right next to you).

First DX 10 (and thats the techlevel you can use if you dont tessellate shi,7 or if you allow turning it off) cards 2007. No DX 9 cards after that. Yeah ....... Theres toasters and then theres "if we double how far they are lagging behind, we would be at DX 3". On problem WG has: I know its "continous" development, and I know you can look over stuff because "it will get fixed eventually", but the thing is: There is so much broaken/missing/unfixed that shouldnt be there in the first place for a "released game", that the "reasonable patience" everyone has, has simply run out. Working UI for the CV? Excusable for alpha and maybe beta; not so much 1 year after "release". PVE content? excusable even at launch, not so much after 1,5 years of absolutely nothing and a big shafting-patch on top. Still no Royal Navy? ..... the classic - and its only going to be switched over to Royal Navy BB after the cruiser branches. Only 2 branches at release? excusable but now churning out the other branches in a timely fashion takes off much of the available resources. .... and the list goes on and on. The missing "not-a-decade-old" renderpath ist just to top of the iceberg; and I am not even complaining: See since there is only shitty cheat AA in this game I can force proper SGSSAA. If they were to switch to DX 10 or higher I could only do that by "downsampling". That would only give inferior OGSSAA, with higher hardware demands, lower IQ and on top of all: scaling problems due to the high resolutions this game is not prepared for. btw: They are using DX9E (dont confuse with DX 9.0b or DX 9.0c) - so there are higher tier DX components that can still be used on DX 9 cards.

also ;): Theoretically the mission for Takao could start mid-month and run till another mid-month, but since the event calender isnt updating ...... Well honestly I dont think it will start mid-month but one can hope ...... like for not outrageous criteria to meet "just because: EU"