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I think I totally missed this last time. Do they offer this after every CB? And its on all T10 ships then?!

Sure, but why not just make the tokens universal then? If their isnt a point on choosing sides? They just could have made the tokens universal and then players on both teams could have bought either camo. It makes no sense to me to have 2 teams (Sharks and Eagles) and also have 2 sides (1 per team) in the Arsenal shop and then have 2 of the 3 camos on the sharks team be eagle camo? And the 3 camos on the eagle side be eagle camo?! But as I said, apparently this makes sense to WG that 2/3 of the shark players would love a eagle camo in the end. But whatever, I got a camo, just thought this approach was a bit odd.

Ok, thanks! That kind of sucks since the whole reason I choosed the Shark side from the beginning was to get a Shark Camo. But apparently this makes sense to WG......

So if you buy the Perma Camo for the Des Moines on the blue side of the Arsenal with your blue tokens that you have earned while playing for the blue Sharks the entire event ...... you get a Eagle freedom Camo?!?!?! I was kind of expeting a Shark camo? So its only Woooster that is getting the Shark one then? Is this just confusing to me?

Has anyone heard WG mention anything about the pricepoint of the T-61? Im talking just the ship, no bundles? When i look at all the other T6 DDs in the premium shop they priced around 18-19 Euros, so should I expect T-61 to be the same? And if not, why?! At the same time I also gotten the feeling that ships that stirres up the most and get hyped a lot get a bigger pricepoint. Im thinking of Asashio, Belfast and such. Anyone have an idea?

I dont think its OP in a 1v1 with other DDs, I just love fast torpreload on my DDs like my Kamikaze R and Yugomo and Asashio with reload booster, because i really love to be that torpedo threat that Shima used to be. So this ship seems to check that box and also in a tier I love to play (because its not 5 DDs per side and 5 radars ....).

T8s will always struggle in T10 MM, that said I think LoYang is one of the better ships to get T10 with. Radars are the same problem for all tiers DDs. Its not easier for Youyang, Gearing and all the others trying to cap in this radar Meta. So first of you need to change the playstyle depending on how many radars there is. Choose to push caps when the timing is right (always looka at minimap where radarships and DDs last was spotted) and when you do push you will have a great advantage with your smoke+hydro combo. only Z-52 will be a problem there.

Strange?! Which cruiser is the first to die in every match EVER in CW........? Hmm .... strange ..... But i guess im better of to let all you "Pro´s" continue this discussion since im not worthy, good luck! And dont forget to all use this OP/broken tactic that these guys apparently have found. Just strange that you never see any of the real Pro clans use this? But what the hell do I know, right?

I dont know about you but i cheer every time I see a Moskva on the enemy team when im in my Hinden. It means i will get a whole lot of free damage. Zao´s and Hinden´s can burn down a couple of Moskvas from range with ease, while their Youyang and Gearing will stealth torp from outside their radar range with devestating damage and floods. I fail to see the problem.... @Reaper_Jack Regarding the focus war. Moskas can really manouver and dodge that well which opens them up to crossfires and torpwalls while Hinden and Zao can dodge their fire at 17-18-19k range and still hit effectivly. And since most clans divide their team with maybe a BB in a centre position to be able to fire at both sides their push would put them in a devestating crossfire while they are focusing on the Hinden and Zao. So I dont believe they would win the DPM war.

I hope you are right. Wonder where gamemodels get their price from?! @NoirLotus Where do you get that updated information from?

I would definatly want the Swedish torpedo sister destroyers Småland and Halland as a part of a Scandinavian tech tree.

Thanks buddy! Usually they put start and Enddate/time very clear in the posts, but for some reason i have a hard time finding it on the webbsite?!

I know that im old and crap, but it seems I cant find the end date for this event, looked at the WoW site and watched the video with Dasha. I know it is soon but when? And is that the same last day when you can spend your tokens? I know that I need atleast 5x5 to get to max and be able to purchase the camo.

Yeah, that was one of sooo many disappointing games i had recently. I dont know what it is about T8-10 players? No one seems to know anything about mapcontrol, positioning, focusing, capping etc etc. Its like playing with bots most of the time and game after game that seems to be a sure win ends up getting thrown by teammates. It was nice to encounter you, but I as well noticed it to late to say "Hi"! Some days i just thinking of quitting Randoms all together and just focus on Clan Battles. Since Randoms is just as aggravating as Ranked used to be now days.

Im definitely not a stats-guy, but grinding for my Legendary module for Hindenburg I just thought i would check my stats on that ship and when I look at the ingame stats-page it looks like this: Where it looks like i have a average Kill ratio at 3,47 ships per game in Hinden, and average damage of 109k per battle. But when I look at for instance "WoW stats and numbers" it looks like this: Where it says 1,24?! The average damage is the same at 109k. But why do these stats differ depending on where you look and what stat is correct?

Well, to be fair isnt that pretty much true to every thred on this forum? He didnt send a PM to the WG employees, he made a thread about it and then other players with different opinions will always give their 50 cents on the matter.

Well, as i stated in the OP, im not a stats-guy. I havent got a clue on what i should be looking at and how different stats effect one and other, how big and small numbers i should expect on this ship (I do know I do well in it). I guess I kind of thought that a stats like average kills per game would be up in the top title banner where the destruction ratio sits and I guess thats why I confused the two numbers. Is destruction ratio really that big of a stat for players? Maybe it it?

Aah, that explains it then. Destruction ratio sounded much like how many ships you killed for me. Didnt know i had to break out my inner Steven Hawking for this. Many thanks for the answer.

Thanks for the answer. Unfortunately i suck at Carriers and never play them. But i just thought that its pretty easy to achieve those things in Fletcher and that ship also benefits a lot from less detection and faster torp and gun reload. Not really as game changing as getting Kraken reload and heal from Yamamoto in Akizuki, but still pretty OP for late game.

Im reviving this thread because i just got him. What do you think about Fletcher? Im just thinking "Double Strike", well thats pretty possible on Fletcher with those torps and guns. Confederate as well. I just feel that Fletcher is the most likely candidate to receive both these achievements in one game. Just like I think (or know) Yamamoto captain is most suited on my Akizuki. I have my John Doe on my Des Moines already (since fast reload to AP) and I have no ambition to grind to Wooster since I hate that island hugging playstyle. What are your thoughts?

Got my eyes on the Salem but I am a bit of still even with the discounts and coupons. Is there a way to boost your Coal intake exept for the most apparent ones like: Finishing all events, challenges, daily combat missions and of course always choosing More resources containers. You cant trade loyalty tokens or any other stuff for coal, right? Cant sell any ships or other stuf for coal?

I will definitely get this ship when its released in the store in the normal way since all CCs pretty much say its a must for a DD main. And its always nice to play a good ship at mid tiers.

So just researced and bought Z23 and got this game in tha half stock version. Only had chance to free XP the hull and torps.

You gotta love those Kraken Unleashed defeat games ........ Edit* Yup! Its the weekend ........

Because it has almost Conqueror heal. Sure it has 1 k shorter radar, but thats just a good excuse to not suicide push the caps at start like all DMs. Now you still have a 8k radar which is a really strong tool on a strong heavy cruiser that also have huge heals.