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Im wondering about the future MM. How many ships of each class will be in each game? Will it be like: 1 CV 3 BBs 2 Cruisers 3 DDs 3 Subs? (because this is the newest cashgrab) If it will be like this then it will be 5 ships visibel on each team in the majority of the game?! How fun is that? Those 5 will get all focus since Subs wont be interested in fighting other subs and DDs is usually not that interested in fighting other DDs since its either suicide or just a even trade and no one wants that, and im guessing (as a DD main) most sane DD players wont be that interested in trying to find and fight enemy subs since it will be suicide or even trade at best. So these poor 5 players will just get crapped on and will have zero counterplay for those 5-6 ships hiding in the sky, under water, or just outside detection range. So probably more long range sniping from BBs, more long range HE spam directed at BBs from cruisers and even less playing for caps/objectives and less team support. Forget about trying to push in with a cruiser or BB, you will get devastated by 95 knot homing torps, torp soups from the DDs, firespam from cruisers, nuked across the map from BBs or just cross dropped by CVs.

Dream on bayybee! That said ... nothing is set in stone with WG. Now Missouri... next time WG need money .. Musashi, Kutuzov, Benham, old Belfast, and Kamikaze and her sisters.

Help and support WG to implement another broken/badly tested/unbalanced class and destroy the little that is left of this once great game? Naaah.... pass on that! But hope you all enjoy those 95 knots homing torps.

I second this! Am in pretty much the same situation and well probably go for Lutjens since I own T-61, Hindenburg, Tirpitz, Pommern and he seems to be great for those ships, probably amazing on Mainz but I dont have that ship.

This is exactly how I feel. Have let down my latest clan because I cant push myself to play on the regular. Mostly just log in to get free stuff and then log out again. If I do manage to play a game or 2 I often regret that decision very fast, either by facing new BS OP ship or new mechanics (new ways for CVs to take all joy away...). Only crap I play myself are OP ships like Asashio, Smolensk, Thunderer, Belfast etc. because why would any sane WoW player play anything other then broken/OP ships these days? Then you are just damage farming pinatas for the other players. State of ingame chat and the forum posts and WGs BS is getting worse and worse by the minute and WG shafts their playerbase every week and then just post the same BS excuse of "miscommunication". Once this game was great and you had a fun time playing with friends and clanmates all night long, but that was many many years ago now.

No idea unfortunately but I got the feeling it was a very unofficial visit maybe just to fuel the ship and stock up on goods.

Yes, because when you see a warship with a name sign on the side "Friesland" and then you see the walkway that says "Friesland" you usually don't think its the name of thew ship but instead go to a Wiki page and try figure out what ship it can be. I don't know how this works in your country but in Sweden when it says "Småland" on the side of the ship you know its the ship Småland.

Then why does it say Friesland on the side and the walkway?

I asked a couple of serious looking dudes on deck if it was possible to do a tour of the ship, but I guessed it wasent the purpose of their visit. I think it was 2 years back we had a stealth looking Swedish Visby class warship in Gothenburg and then you could take a tour.

Its at Americaskjulet

I fail to grasp how 2 completely different text regarding same thing is pretty clear? First they say "This OR that" then in the text in the OP they say "Each container will have a perma camo". For me this is the complete opposite of clear, but maybe I just have higher standards regarding communication. Better question is: Why would it say "Each Distant Voyages container will drop a permanent camo" when that isnt the case. Since then even WG has owned up to it so apparently even they felt it was unclear.

So, to sum it up, WG´s "fix" for this debacle is that the fooled customers have to contact WG support and make a claim for a refund which means they know from experience maybe half the players effected will bother with this so ... again win-win business practice. Why does this scene pop up in my head........

On a different note, American submarine Cachalot or as WG says it "Cashiiiing!" (roll Jackpot sounds) got their torpedo speed changed from 66 to 82 knots!?!? Thats 82 knots ....... at Tier 6 ..... thats homing torps ..... (Tier 10 Balao has 89 knot homing torps, is this a bad time to grind the US BB line?). Probably going to be a new cash grab submarine captain skill that will make it 100-120 knots Cant wait .....

IMPROVE THIS GAME !?!?!?!? Holy spreadsheets say this is a perfect balanced game and all playerbase Love us! Hey, spreadsheets dont lie! ! I wonder if WG fools their investors into thinking there are so many active players on the servers when most just log in every day to get the free stuff? And then log of again without even playing the game..... (free supercontainer is a couple of meeh flags atleast...)

I replay GTA 5 for the sixth time (I think), haven't had one other game that I had so much enjoyment from as GTA 5. Hope nr 6 is in the making. Cyberpunk, even tho entertaining, don't have the same replay ability.

Problem is they are Not making fools of themselves, they are making fools of their paying customers, that for some strange reason, continue to pay them regardless of how many times they get scammed. This is not a mistake; this is their devious business plan. Scam their customers and grab as much money that you can before the forum will catch up to you and then just throw out yet another BS "Miscommunication error" statement to solve everything. This is a re-occurring system they work by. WG laughs all the way to the bank where they deposit the latest miscommunication money. For some strange reason, this company that puts out so many miscommunications on a weekly basis apparently can't employ an English-speaking person, because then they can't use this apology any longer.

If you look at text of the post you quote you see its very un-clear. WG says 2 totally different things in their text and have now even owned up to it. So not so clear. And if you look at the text in the OP you see they say something completely different, so not so clear at all. This happens quite often. Is it really a mistake when its a re-occurring system? Will you refund everyone that bought containers up until this moment, since you totally misled your customers with that text, or are they just collateral damage? I sometimes wonder how much money you make from your re-occurring "communication errors"?

Classic WG "miscommunication". They state perfectly clear (for once....) that Each of the containers will drop a perma camo and then most who buy them will only get flags. Flamu bought a few and only got flags. Probably will get a second or third Makarov before you will get a perma camo. With all the whale money you think WG would be able to employ ONE person that can communicate in English, considering its their biggest server? Doesn't iEarlGrey work for WG? Isnt he a native Englishman? Anyone keeping count of all "miscommunication"/scams WG has pulled of only in 2021 alone? Still baffled that players continue to sink money into WG.

Considering the Clusterfaaaak WG is planning for the game (Kitakami torp soup, Subs homing or less homing torps and now cruisers, probably soon DDs, with bombers and torp bombers) I guess its a good change. Otherwise half the dead teammates would be friendly kills. Most players cant grasp the fundamental mechanics of the game but for the love of god, give them a ship that spews out 40 torps in every direction. Its just a new way to dumb down the game so it will fit everyone, like most mechanics when playing a CV or when WG actually implemented a sign that said "BB PLAYERS PLEASE DONT GO HERE!" on the 9-10 line of North map.

Is it worth it?

I dont get it, what are the range of these secondarys?

Would love this (then I would trade in 70% of my Premiums), but aint gonna happen (probably for the reason I just said .....)

Yes very sad since I would love a new decent EU line. With EU/Swedish DD line they got insane strong with Halland/Småland but seems no love for Dutch from WG. Really sad. Maybe they save all OP:ness to Russian CVs.....

Since its a nerfed version (a premium nerfed Iowa) I think they will price it the same as other T9 premium BBs.

I totally get the nation pride, I felt the same when EU (Swedish DD) line got released. What I gathered so far they are supposed to be tanky but can take a lot of damage anyways. Thier AP seem like a waste of time (going by Flamu Maltese knight videos of the tier 9) and HE seems pretty bad as well (low alpha and set minimum fires). So their airstrike seems like the only strong point. Please prove me wrong, I would love for this line to be relewant.