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I was looking at Ragnar myself and was wondering how it compares to Groningen, since both don't have torps and are quite big. Groningen has great hydro and smoke and Ragnar has radar and heal. Seen a few highlight videos of Ragnar but guessing there is a lot of crappy games in between those. Seems like Ragnar would be very situational while in Groningen you can create and control the situation more perhaps?

Dont want to shadder you hopes but imho its one of the more powercrept and weaker line in the game these days. Havent played Z-52 in years because its pretty meeh in all aspects. I would highly recommend you to grins another line instead.

Hindenburg is still quite capable. Gameplay

Problem with countering Russian radarcruisers is that they have laser guns so trying for example to gunboat them down in a Mogador or Kleber isn't really viable. Best DDs to counter Russ cruisers is long range torp boats like Halland, Gearing and Somers that can flank the often stationary Russ cruisers sitting by the cap circles and torping their sides from outside their radar range. Other good non DD counters to Russian cruisers guarding the caps are long range firespammers like Hinden, Henri and Thunderers. But Russian is the meta and Russian cruisers is way better then any other class/nation out there, that's why you see a lot of them and they are sometimes limited in how many can play them. British DDs dont really have a good counter except for trying to time their radar cooldown and spam a torp conga-line to their bow. Playing DDs in clan or ranked is really hard, even for a really experienced player, there is a reason why they almost always die first.

Also probably the best looking camo in the entire game........

I have to vote for Lo Yang but I also dont have Kidd or Orkan. Didnt play Lo Yang for ages and just dusted it of and got these 2 games this evening. Not really record breaking but still decent games when nor played her in over a year. Shes not really overpowered but quite good in most aspects. Decent conceal, guns, torps, smoke, and a pretty great hydra (5.5 km) that only gets beaten by Z 52 (I think). Pretty good at contesting caps and pushing enemy dds out. But then again, Kidd has decent AA and a heal and Orkan has quick radar and a secondary turret.

ROFL ! ! ! The machinegun before the airstrike is your biggest problem with this game, enough to make a tread in the forum?! I give you a 1 out of 10 for trying to troll. You must be new here. This explains a lot about all the steamrolls we see in high tier games.

THIS! ! ! Im so sick of getting nuked to half health by 1 skip bomb that made its first skip on my deck. Skip bombs seems to be the best DD killer in CVs arsenal these days. This even seem to work quite well when the DD moves around in smoke screen with AA of for some reason. Im not sure what exact changes to the spotting mechanics WG is testing for the moment but im pretty sure it will make stuff worse as usual when they try to balance things. Have they hotfixed the things they broke last patch yet? The secondary's and AA that never dies and the HP perk bugg? I for one would love to see only strike aircrafts being able to spot DDs when they have their AA of. Its just so skill-less and lazy that a CV player can happen to random spot a DD by accident and then just place a spotting squadron over him and then just fook of and maybe strike something else or try and come back and strike the now perma lit DD. Zero fookin skill like most CV gameplay. And only counter to this is that DD waste one of his 3 smokes because of this, or take the chance of getting nuked while trying to sail out of the planes spotting range. Most DDs cant even shot down spotter planes. I feel like if a CV players wants to ruin my match even more then usual he should atleast have to engage his strike squadron to do so. Just being able to put small radars out whereever he wants is just pure BS.

I see a whole lot of 2 CVs per team matches at T8 these days, seems it just gonna get worse and worse. Another game we had there was NO CVS (!?!?!) but enemy team had 2 Kearsarge, a Golden Louwe and a Tone I think. So sky was fyll with planes even in that match.

Here is the actual gameplay.

Gotta Love the old Asashio. 3400 Base XP

I think its going to have a long slow death based on how the game was before and how the future looks. I think we can all agree that the game in its current state is pretty bad. We have broken OP ship after broken OP ship getting into the game, new players can pretty much buy themselves into T8-10 with zero understanding or skill of this game. 90 % of matches is steamrolls that ends in 12-0 wins in 7-8 min. Many old skilled players will leave and have already left and are replaced by new players that know nothing about how to play. And meanwhile WG focuses on implementing more classes that they have zero chance of balancing into the game. The only reason I still sometimes play is that I have invested a lot of time and money into this game in the first years. But now I only play Broken OP Premiums like Asashio, Smolensk, Thunderer etc. I never try and play for my team since thay are all dead within 5-6 min so mostly I just damage farm and play ego. Not worth it to even try, specially not Ranked, its a shitshow. Edit* It literary took 5 min for 8 of my much skilled teammates to die and the match ended. Welcome to WoWs 2022. All 24 players had sooo much fun.

I don't have either but want both. I think bort are pretty OP so I guess its down to what class/playstyle you prefer. I think I will go for Bourgogne myself since I love Jean Bart and B seems to just be a better version of that.

Problem is to survive that push into the outer ring and turn to position away as a BB without eating a bunch of torps, AP bombs or Yamato AP on the way. Schleiffen would be great in a position like this with its hydro, torps and secondary's but its not tanky enough. If I play one of my IJN torp DDs I always push around the flank and torp their camping parkinglot to death, but then another DD must push in and stall the center cap.

Its a shitty gamemode that sucks for most classes. DD need to push into the suicide circle to get caps or the team loses very fast. Problem is that DDs die very fast in that center circle if they dont get support and support (cruisers and BBs) that actually push in to support die also very fast because torps, CVs, crossfires etc etc. SO gamemode with less skill and more chance involved in success. BBs and cruisers can flank around but can then often get killed by plankning DDs or CV. And if to many flank out for crossfires then their DDs die in center, enemy team wins the caps and you loose. If your team has 3 DDs on should go in and the other 2 should flank and spot and crosstorp enemy team. But then again, most kind of tactics or "plays" get annihilated by CVs.

And you didn't? No, see ... I just used exactly the same argument as you and you didn't like it (strange). And its the most tarded argument ever. So whatever you dislike in this game ever you can just say "its part of the game, just leave" If WG implements supersonic homing torps that reach over all the map, you will just go "well .... it's part of this game ...so..."

This! and you should also take into account any kind of protection the enemy ships use, like modules, flags etc. So you can never really look at the chance for fire in that way, more like compared to other ships chance. Just think how broken Thunderer and Conqueror would be if this was the case, and they are still broken A-F.

Have they done something to Missouri? Except the new mission for credits? Had Missouri for about 4 years or something but haven't played it in about 2 years because I thought it was totally crap and even tho it printed credits, I thought I never really got a good game in it except for one that made it on Mingles with Jingles. But when they said we were getting a new mission to save the old credit effect I tried it again just to try out the mission and I haven't really gotten any bad games in her at all, so wtf?! Did they buff her in some way? Its not really Youtube worthy games but its still pretty good that resulted in 1-2 Million credits games (with boosters). Maybe its just the new MM meta where you are top tier a lot in a T9 ship?! So now I play her a lot more to farm credits and I actually have fun and sometimes carry the team in her which I never really did before.

Reports are a part of this game. If CV players don't like getting reports, then go play another game.... See what I did there?

I really don't see the big mystery here. Some players choose to play a class that most of the player base hate and that ruins all the fun for the majority. WG put reports into this game to use on players that you don't like for some reason...... Do the math? You choose to ruin my game experience .... you get a report ..... not like it effects anything else then your ego? If I play Smolensk or Thunderer and I get a report im not baffled over it and I never whine about it on the forum. I understand I choosed to play a broken hated ship and someone reported me for it.... fair game! Get over it! It has zero effekt on your game!

Looking forward to WG trying to "balance" that class for the coming 5 years. Or how long have they tried with CVs? In other news ...... A crap ton of 2 CV per team games in T8, probably coming soon to T10! Fun for the whole playerbase! And in local news ...... WTF is a "Ship Smasha"! Is that a ship captained by the Hulk?! "HULK SMASH SHIP"! ! ! !

Not really like its hard to boost Karma falsely by Clans division stacking on regular basis.

I wonder sometimes, would it be boring for the CV mains to play in 12 vs 12 with only CVs? Its a level playing field then. But maybe thats not what they want. It would be fun to watch them trying to strike each other tho.

Never had any interest in RB since it came out because I hate the forced grind aspect. Games should be fun and not boring work. That said im pretty interested in the Vampire 2 destroyer, so im wondering. I need 32 000 RB points to get the Vampire. Is that possible to get in one reset when its the special double bonus thingy? How much FXP do you need to use to regrind the IJN DD line once?

Exactly this! I use RL on all my torp based DDs (IJN etc) to be able to control potential engagement with enemy gunboat DDs and use up 4 captain points to be able to have a somewhat knowledge to where the closest threat to me is. But as you say this skill in not only totally useless when it comes to subs but actually more confuse you to where he and where a potential gunboat DD are to your position since the direction changes more than on a compass on the north pole