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I cant remember my build of the top of my head at work but I think if you loose all AA skills (useless) and detect (because you are still worst detect in game) and change them into old AFT (bottom left) for additional gun range (my Kleber reaches out to 15+ km) cant remember how far Mogador goes, but I guess similar. Range is your friend. And also choose the skill that gives you more DPM if you are spotted, because you will open water gunfight 80% of the game. But AFT skill first, you need range to duke salvos. Other then that, never push into caps at start (this is same for all DDs) but instead hold the middle ground between friendly DDs in front and cruisers behind and support your stealthy DDs when they choose to push into cap. Rest of the time you burn down BBs with your DPM and range and duke their incoming salvos with ASWD hacks and speed boost. Late game you can also surprise enemy DDs around corners and also blapp pesky submarines. A popular tactic with Mogador/Kleber is to either surprise spotted enemy dd with your reload booster and kill them in 5 seconds or you spam fires on enemy BBs until they damage con and then you use reload booster to set 2-3 new perma fires that tics for crap-ton of damage. Also great for zipping around the map late game and steal caps.

We're looking at what coal ship to get next and a few of those I don't have yet is: 1. Radar DD Black: Apparently what the DD community need right now is more radars and also radar-dds in everyones hands...... Part from that seems a bit meeh and boring with sub-par DPM and sea mines 2. Napoli: Seems nice, tanky, stealthy, sap-secondarys, "steal the cap"-smokes. But also looks a bit boring to play and very similar to Venezia that I already got. and then Kearsarge, that for some reason flew a bit under my radar for a while, and after looking at a few Trenlass and Potato Quality videos on it, it seems pretty OP with: high speed 12 NC guns Tiny Tims airstrikes every 2 min (faster after Confederate with Halsey) high HP for tier T9 matchmaking ability to spot all around the map for yourself in no-cv matches (what is that....?) you can act like a cv for you team and spot entire enemy team and their dds at start spot enemy dds and get them killed mid to late game Spot low hp targets that is trying to get away and heal up and get them killed or blapp them w rockets Blapp annoying HE-spamming island campers ... yes, looking at you Smolensk... every other salvo you can spend booring BB reload time with striking enemy ships with rockets and then switch back to reloaded guns for follow up shots, while all other BB players just scratch their .... Stack high alpha and fires from rockets with high alpha with now perma fires with HE shells Must be a MONSTER in top tier games.... And if not for any of the above reasons ...... the ability to strike and kill a CV late game with planes as an extra FUUUUUUCC YoooooooooUUU! ! ! Thoughts?

Dont know if many other videos has shown this before so thought i link it. Also as a Swede is always hilarious watching Streamers trying to announce Swedish DD names "Dallllarrnnnaaa"!!! Being a Swede I love Halland and Östergötland and I will definatly buy this Supership when it comes out since I enjoy playing Halland. And I think the gimmick on this ship is very good as well, chance to switch between basically Halland torps to a much shorter range (8 km) but ones that hit harder (18-ish K) and have greater flood chance. Many times in my Halland when being very close to a enemy BB late game I actually wanted some different torps that could have better effect on target, so this is great. Better AA then Halland?? 9??......9 Flack puffs...?? Shut up and take my credits!!

Nice! Looking forward to an update when you have played it some more.

Anyone know if Wedgie hinted some new RB ships on the horizon. Am close to Vampire 2 but not sure if its worth it. With my luck they introduce Benham 1 week after I bought Vampire.

I would LOVE the Swedish Chef as a Captain, best captain ever! If not him maybe Swedish actor Peter Stormare that is always playing crazy Russians in Hollywood blockbusters like John Wick, Armageddon etc etc.

Yeah... dont hold you breath. Keep on blapping! We all know CV class is totally BS (apart from you apparently) but at least Halland/Dalarna will provide a minor annoyance. .

Talking like a true CV Main. Must feel special.

I would probably turn it around. Why are some people so obsessed with players statistics? Ive seen 60+ WR guys ending up last in T10 matches with 3-400 XP in a super/OP/Mega broken ship and iva seen a 45 WR guy topping the match in a low tier silver (crap) ship. In most discussions in this forum people would rather argue stats and numbers then actual experience and skill. In my experience players that use their WR do talk crap to other players or use it as an argument aren't really that good when you look at their stats. Guys bragging about their unicum stats are often re-rolls, or just mediocre guys that has been carried by clanmates and div mates in majority of all of their matches, when you look at their solo stats it a different situation. Usually, people that play well and actually have skill and experience in this game dont have to bragg about their WR or dont have to use it in arguments about ships and classes. "I don't know the meaning of hiding statistics" Well.... probably because its the first thing people look at when encountering a new player in game or even in forum! But for me, I rather play with a 45 WR guy that is actually trying to learn and get better at this game then a 65 WG douche that thinks he´s god's gift to online games and he knows best.

It would be a hilarious thing if Wedgie actually gave CVs the ship dropped BS ASW that most of the other classes and player base gets! Imagine the CV Mains actually had to stop flying their planes for a moment and steer their ships to where they think the now submerged sub is and drop ASW over the sides just to realize that the sub have moved so now they have to circle around like idiots for 5 min trying to find it and not doing any good for the team meanwhile. Because what I just described is pretty much the reality for any DD (that I guess should be the BIG counter to subs ...... right) trying to find and kill a sub. (this last part is for all you BB players screaming at DDs for not killing subs) Even in my DDs with hydro and radio location: 1. I see the last known position of the sub, head that way with my trusty radio location trying to counter a sub. 2. My radio location starts to act like a compass on the north pole and just switches around every 10 seconds in different direction (apparently the sub is just popping up and down on the surface). So, my radio location skill is useless when it comes to hunting subs (WOW protected class nr2) because I will never know if it detects a sub or a nearby unspotted enemy dd/cruiser. 3. My hydro is useless unless im sitting right over the sub but then since he has better speed and maneuverability he will just pop up and shotgun me to my face. So basically, you sail around like a headless chicken and dropping ASW and you don't have any effect either on killing the sub or helping your team out with spotting/capping/killing. So, I gave up anything to do with hunting subs in my cruisers/dds 3 weeks after they were implemented. But going back to the topic at hand, im guessing Wedgie will give CVs 18 km airdropped ASW with 6000 damage alpha per bomb and probably even sound seeking so they will find any sub anywhere, will probably even be dual purpose so they can attach pushing DDs as well. Because why not?

Yeah, I guess this will be true to me as well since I haven't touched CVs since game came out so planes will be a new thing to learn.

Apparently, you haven't met a CV main? Its the guy getting surprised at a DD 3 km away from his ship that has been spotted the last 10 minutes pushing that position. You demand WAY to much here. Its also the guy dying at the 2 minute mark because he put in a course for his carrier to the enemy spawn and then started to fiddle around with the shiny aircrafts up in the sky. He is also the guy that rather ship of 5 K off a 100 K Yamato in enemy base then help kill of a spotted PINGED 300 HP DD in our base cap.

Yeah, about that Halland tho..... Video starts at a Naki/Halland engagement. Since Halland and its AA came out its pretty much my most played DD and not just because im Swedish. Usually can kill of a lot of planes from most CVs but since most of the Nakis attacks can engage even before entering Hallands AA it doesn't really matter (wonder why Russian CVs got this ..... hmm). And I know I gotten blapped for 5-6-7 K in one salvo many times even tho im a pretty good DD players. Also plane kills doesn't really matter unless de-planement is a thing.

I take a crack at it: CV Mains cried to WeeGee that dumb subs ruined their grieving of the rest of the player base with their dumb pings and stuff. WeeGee had a crisis meeting to fix this problem directly. I think this is pretty close....

Wee Gee: Dev 1: Hey guys, when Intern Bob did the whole sub and ASW implementation on that drunken weekend a while back he apparently totally missed that there are three classes och ships that has no way of fighting subs. Dev 2: "Classic Bobster" What are those classes? Dev 1: 1. CV that sit in the corner taking zero risk and not ever moving 2. Entire Dutch cruiser line that are close to the action and enemy subs and take huge risks 3. Hybrid ships like Kearsarge that are close to the action and enemy subs and take huge risks Dev 2: Well, we got to fix this for the CVs because them not having that is game breaking ......

Yeah, that is my thought exactly. Maybe I just sit and farm damage, XP, credits etc etc. in an idiot proof way instead of actually trying to get better at a game that doesn't promote skill, tactics or counterplay. Its like trying to play a intelligent game of chess with a retard just sweeping all the pieces of the board with his arm each time. Not really considering pretty much every CV video on Youtube. There is a good one of Flambass (not a CV main) eating a sandwich and discussing things with his girlfriend among many many more. Im sure I won't spill my chilled Negroni even once during battle. Probably have opportunity to go and make a fresh one.

Yup! A couple of years ago this game was amazing. Now its just on a steady downward slope. Only thing approving every year is the art department, rest is just imbecills ruining everything that once was great. Before I actually enjoyed to grind a new line and discover its strength and weaknesses, now days I only play OP/Broken ships and Premiums to try and counter all the other OP/Broken crap I will encounter in every match. Mostly play: Smolensk Asashio Conqueror Thunderer Annapolis Conde etc. Greif other players or get grieved that is the basic function of this game today. Either you crap on the enemys or they do it to you. Skill has zero importance any more, just play your OP/broken ship and grief. Actually, considering becoming a CV Main and just sit and grief everyone and getting 300 K games with one hand while watching "Better call Saul". Seems that is what WG wants me to do. Maybe Free XP Nakhimov with zero experience in a CV and jump into T10.

1. WG has ZERO interest in tackling toxicity unless they can make money on it and they cant and players still flood them with money as is, so for them the game has no problems. 2. Its a free to play online Multiplayer game and since its free it apparently means that players DONT EVER need to learn anything about the game and can just press W at the start of the game and die in first 3 min, which of course creates a lot of toxicity among the rest of the team when they then loose because of the 4-5 400 XP players that suicided IN EVERY match. Its the same case if a player just runs in and suicides in every round in Counter strike or any other team based game. But for some reason in all other games it seems players actually at least try and get better. So unless players actually start learning and playing better this wont change at all and WGs answer to this is to try and dumb down the game even further (CVs etc) so every window licker or Village idiot can get or just buy a T10 or a super ship or ranked 1 just by getting carried enough by struggling teammates. "players people are frustrated more and more by stupid design choices and questionable matchmaking" is just some extra gravy on the already constant frustration.

It seems pretty decent when you see experienced players play it on Youtube. I was planning to use Halsey on it since getting Confederate (which shouldn't be that hard in a ship thats both BB and a CV) gives you shorter reload on the main guns AND shorter cooldown on the planes as well. So almost a new airstrike after each main battery salvo. (Stacking fires like a Baaaws). Also nice to be able to help team to spot the enemy DDs and surfaced submarines. But this has been true with CVs since like forever. And my hopes are that WG when they implement the Subs fully, they will come to their senses and also do a rework of the current ASW situation since it makes no sense at all for the moment. Why some ships don't have any at all, why some cruisers have airdropped and some ship dropped, some BBs 12 km and some BBs 5 km?!?! But of course, this is reliant on WG having any sense to start with.

I have never played CVs before, is it something you need to know regarding those Tiny Tims? About the pen the rockets have etc? Is there any BBs you can't pen and is it some that you really should go after with the planes? And im guessing avoiding all half decent AA ships like Halland, Östergötland, Kidd, Gröningen, RU cruisers and US.

Asashio Smolensk Thunderer Conqueror Annapolis Halland Jean Bart Mainz

Exactly! Its a fantasy to think you can out maneuver a CV in any way in a 2 Vs 2 Brawl mode. Maybe ....."Just dodge"....

Sorry, but you are totally delusional. Just because you see the CV at two short points, the last one being 2min 30 sec into the game and then nothing.... you ASSUME he sits behind that island but you cant know that. What are ASSUMTION the mother of again ....? Yeah right FUCKUPS! "Play like an idiot"? - OHIO did the exakt same play....? What is the smart play here in your mind? Running away from caps and CV? You cant run away from a CV and if the CV see the Schleiffen running away what do you think he would do then? Just forget the other half of the enemy team?! No, he would find that Klebar with its shitty air conceal and AA in seconds and then just blapp it like it does to all other DDs in this game. Should he have hidden behind an island? Because the Naki wouldnt find him there...? Also, how would the Kleber "easily kill" the Naki? The path to the Naki ASSUMING he still behind the island ....which we dont know .... is thru the planes and the OHIO, would that be fun for a DD with worst conceal in game and worst AA?! You saw what big chance the Kleber had in this game, do you really think he would hav had a better chance if Flamu ran away at start or Kleber trying to go on a wide flanking manouver to get to the island .... you know ... assuming he still there. LOL .... "terrible play" .... he is in a Schleiffen which is broken OP in Brawls (Unless WG puts CV into the mode), this ship has OP secondarys, OP torps, OP Speed and OP German hydro. A ship build for pushing in and Brawling, specially in a gamemode with 2 enemys.. and you think this is "terrible play" ....ok.... Im not bying any of this BS The fact that you think this is "kind of not a good idea" sums it up pretty well for me. Good luck with your fantasies, im sticking to the real world.

I would really LOVED to see you execute that win against that Nakhimov team, it would have been amazing to see! Especially with a random teammate. There is a lot of stuff possible "in theory". Ohio just ignore the perma spotted-no-AA-Kleber then? While Kleber tries to push a Naki he doesnt know where he is?!?! Top right corner? Top left corner?! So Flamu should "just hide" ("just dodge") FROM A CARRIER that can spot AND strike everything all over the map? Yeah, I would really LOVE to see you pull this of! "putting himself into the most vulnerable position he could ever put himself" .... Yeah, he was trying to brawl in a BRAWL GAME MODE........ (get it..?) That said my point still applies, how disconnected must a dev be to put a CV class into a BRAWL gamemode? Im guessing new level of window licking here. I mean, why not just spam CV class in all modes then?! Let's have 2 Nakhimovs per team in T10 and 2 CV per side in ranked .... alongside 5 Petros per side... since there are no logic any more in these decisions. Apparently, there is nothing wrong here.

Heres just another great example of Flamu Vs WeeGee. I was actually considering trying Brawl this time because who doesn't enjoy a good Brawl in this game? Unfortunately, you can't really Brawl that much in Randoms because of every match CV Cancer. So, what does WeeGee do? They allow the only class that takes ALL THE FUN out of brawling into Brawls........ Yeah.... Big brains at work here folks..... So now ONE of the teams consisting of 2 ships can be a Nakhimov ... a Tier 12 CV... and the other side NO CV .... wonder how that will end..... Hmmmm wonder who will win...... Their incompetence isn't really fun any more. GUYS! ! ! CVs DONT EVEN BRAWL?!?! They sit in top right corner or behind an island all game?!?! They don't move unless they get "surprised" by a DD at 4 km that has been spotted last 10 min pushing them...?!? So HOW did this even make it into the discussion?! Enjoy the latest edition of BRAWL guys! From the geniuses that brought you CVs, Subs, Russian CVs and Ranked....