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btw "Eight new ships will join the German tech tree with the next update. Check the full roster below and keep a weather eye open for further details!" They prob mean 5.9.0 though

Well just compare the back of the H-41 to the bismarck. Bismarck got 4x2 turrets and we can clearly seem the in the image as well. The back of the H-41 looks almost identical, only that the turrets are slightly wider. So if the H-41 will have 3x3 the Bismarck will have 3x2

If you look closely enough you can seen 4 Turrets on the H-41 Also 4x3 Turrets would match the fire power (more or less, something in between) of the yamato and montana

from the Image we can tell that H-39 will have double turrets

Updated the table according to that.: Wupppps put I like Pppps so mupch

Another Image (zoomed) H-39 on the left, H-41 on the right http://de.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=jgjvd5&s=9#.V31eZ7iLSUk This also would explain why the H-39 has a DPM of AP: 210207 DPM HE: 79448.3 DPM In the table H-41 was assumed to be a double turret ship. So instead of AP: 202500 DPM and HE : 75000 DPM it will have 12 turrets(probably) : AP: 303750 HE: 112500 DPM and thus would be in between the max DMP of the Yamato and Montana. So this might actually be balanced.

By the way, nobody is talking about that fact, that the German High Tier will have tripple turrets rather than double turrets? moved to http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/55796-h-41-tripple-turrets/

On broadside they both can basically (not taking other factors into account) pen on equal terms, but the Yamato usually fights nose in. Yamato also got 2/3 of its fire power on its nose, while the montana only got 2/4. Yamato shells 460mm, Mass 1460 Montana shells 406mm, Mass 1225 That alone shows the difference in fire power in a 1vs1 fight Yamato, 26.6km 276m Montana, 23.6 297m (with mod) : 264m I was taking the number of guns into account, increasing your hit chances.

> in terms of "Better", < in terms of "worse" Montana AA > Yamato Montana Speed > Yamato Montana Gun count > Yamato Montana Gun turn > Yamato Montana Dispersion > Yamato Montana DPM > Yamato Montana Concealment > Yamato (only 0.2km) Yamato Pen > Montana Yamato Bow armor > Montana Yamato Secondaries > Montana Yamato Overall Armor > Montana Yamato Tordpeo Belt > Montana Montana wins in usability against cruisers destoryers and cvs. Yamato wins in Battleship vs Battleships and against Cruiser fights lower number of CVs and low number of crusiers in high tier, that are not stealth are making the montana look worse by stats right now

If they get like <150m dispersion on 25km range i could live with these guns, otherwise basically what unintentional_submarine said up there.

AS far as we know German battleships will get crap accuracy on long and mid range, (looking at tirpitz), so a crusier broadsides you on 10km and you get maybe 1 citadel on him? great... hey at least the crusier wont be able to citadel you.... happy 32s reload while the crusier pumps in 8k salvos into you and angles once you are reloaded. also a problem as mentioned above german ships take massive dmg to super structure... if it does not change with the h-39 or h-41 you will most likely take 20k dmg salvos on your super structure... Also Montana has 12 Guns with lower caliber than Yamato, that has 9 guns with higher penetration and more dmg... on same ROF... while the H-41 got 8 guns with lower dmg and lower caliber of yamato and combined with higher reload.... Just look on the DPM... And do not forget that the H-41 is supposed to have the worst accuracy. Higher suitability? as long as super structure does not protect against 203mm HE shells you will take massive dmg from HE... And if you think you can use it as a close range brawler forget it, it will a big fat rock as all tier 10 bbs. Compared to that the H-39 looks better (Higher ROF, almost equal armor, higher maneuverability,...). Battleships are already easly out-DPM'ed by Crusiers in a 1vs1 fight... lets bring in a battleships that can hit crap, and does little dmg right? Btw what happend to Germans Radar aimed Guns with High accuracy, from the Tirpitz? Or the one shot on the Hood from Bismarck? I guess those guns must have been super inaccurate :kappa:

could you also post the shell stats of the yamato and montana to compare? I am surprised about the 420mm 1.9 ROF, how is that going to compete with the 2.0 ROF of the montana or yamato? Yamato: 9 shellsx460mm, 2.0 ROF Montana: 12 Shellsx420mm, 2.0 Rof H-41. 8 Shellsx420mm, 1.9 ROF ?!

Ships models that were added btw: König Alber, Tier 3 Kaiser, Tier 4 Scharnhorst, Tier 7 ARP I-401, Tier 11 ARP Ashigara, Tier 7 ARP Takao, Tier 8 Arizona, Tier 6 Flint, Tier 7 Black, Tier 9

https://thearmoredpatrol.com/2016/06/18/wows-leak-tier-vii-german-battleship-scharnhorst-stats%E2%80%8F/

Rank 6, with 4 stars --> rank 5 match High Caliber in myoko http://gph.is/1Y0Zl1l Only map (resized): http://gph.is/28IfamM http://gifrecorder.com/ is a goot tool for that

The Indianapolis is simply crap for ranked. will be citadelled through the front from cruiser and battleships, does not stand a chance in a 1vs1 against a myoko or shorst... Radar? if you ever get close enough without dieing.... its just not worth it... Indianapolis avrg dmg in ranked: 28,514 Myoko (depends on type) : 33,647 - 37,446 Shorst: 33,108 Atlanta: 21,765 -- is at least good at killing dds (and many ppl have it) Pensacola: 24,801 so the only options are shorst or myoko for the crusiers... Also the cap xp bonus should be disabled for dds in ranked...

Es dauert immer gut ne Woche bis man in Rang 5-1 voran kommt. Bis jetzt sind etwa 10-20 Leute auf rang 5... Selbst wenn 14 leute für ein match da sind, sind es am ende des matches wieder nur 8 Leute die in die queue gehen können... Also heißt es warten... Hier gelisted als rang 6: http://shipcomrade.com/leaderboard.asp?Name=&A=1&B=5&G=1&S=4&R=118&C=0

Ranked Season 4 Starting in 9 Days! Full Translated announcement (fomr RU website) can be found here: http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/53000-4th-ranked-season-starting-on-the-10062016/page__st__20__pid__1067298#entry1067298 22 Ranks: (Low = Better) Irrevocable: 1, 12, 15, 18, 20,21,22 Ranks 22-16: Tier 5 and 6 Ranks 16-2: Tier 6 and 7 Rank 1: Tier 10 (allows you to play against other Rank 1 players once you reached it) Rewards: Rank 1 (irrevocable): 100x Type 3 Camo, 2500 doubloons, 5.000.000 Credits (no flag yet) Rank 2: 1000 doubloons Rank 3: 50x Juliet Charlie, 50x November Foxtrot, 50x Juliet Whiskey Unaone, 50x November Echo Setteseven, 50x India Delta, 50x, India X-Ray, 50x Sierra Mike, 50x, India Yankee, 50x Juliet Yankee Bissotwo, 50x Victor Lima Rank 4: 100x Type 5 Camo Rank 5: Flag: The Premiere League Rank 6: 2.000.000 Credits Rank 7: 50x Juliet Charlie, 50x November Foxtrot, 50x India Delta, 50x, India Yankee, 50x Juliet Yankee Bissotwo, 50x Hotel Yankee Rank 8: 50x Mike Yankee Soxisix, 50x Juliet Whiskey Unaone, 50x November Echo Setteseven, 50x India X-Ray, 50x Sierra Mike, 50x Vicctor Lima Rank 9: 50x India Bravo Terrathree, 50x Equal Speed Charlie London, 50x Papa Papa, 50x Zulu Hotel, 50x Zulu Rank 10: Flag: The First League Rank 11: 25x Juliet Charlie, 25x November Foxtrot, 25x India Delta, 25x , India Yankee, 25x Juliet Yankee Bissotwo, 25x Hotel Yankee Rank 12 (irrevocable): 25x Mike Yankee Soxisix, 25x Juliet Whiskey Unaone, 25x November Echo Setteseven, 25x India X-Ray, 25x Sierra Mike, 25x Vicctor Lima Rank 13: 25x India Bravo Terrathree, 25x Equal Speed Charlie London, 25x Papa Papa, 25x Zulu Hotel, 25x Zulu Rank 14: 25x Juliet Charlie, 25x November Foxtrot, 25x Juliet Whiskey Unaone, 25x November Echo Setteseven, 25x India Delta, 25x , India X-Ray, 25x Sierra Mike, 25x , India Yankee, 25x Juliet Yankee Bissotwo, 25x Victor Lima Rank 15 (irrevocable): Flag: The Second League Rank 16: 24h Premium Account Rank 17: 10x Juliet Charlie, 10x November Foxtrot, 10x India Delta, 10x , India Yankee, 10x Juliet Yankee Bissotwo, 10x Hotel Yankee Rank 18 (irrevocable): 10x Mike Yankee Soxisix, 10x Juliet Whiskey Unaone, 10x November Echo Setteseven, 10x India X-Ray, 10x Sierra Mike, 10x Vicctor Lima Rank 19: 10x India Bravo Terrathree, 10x Equal Speed Charlie London, 10x Papa Papa, 10x Zulu Hotel, 10x Zulu Rank 20 (irrevocable): 10x Type 5 Camo Rank 21 (irrevocable): 5x Juliet Charlie, 5x November Foxtrot, 5x Juliet Whiskey Unaone, 5x November Echo Setteseven, 5x India Delta, 5x , India X-Ray, 5x Sierra Mike, 5x , India Yankee, 5x Juliet Yankee Bissotwo, 5x Victor Lima Rank 22 (irrevocable): none

Situation Awareness Skill As many of you know, with Patch 0.5.5.0 many people believed that the SA (Situation Awareness) Skill changed. According to the WG Staff, and the developers, SA was not changed and worked like this for years / since CAT. However, they introduced a delay of 3s to the detection in patch 0.5.5.0. So what does it mean? So for example if you are detected, and you are creating smoke, you SA will go off instantly, however, you will still be visible for another 3s to the enemy. So if you are moving on full speed while dropping smoke, it is possible that you wont even vanish at all. On the other Hand WG Staff already said, that SA is being worked on, to make it more precise in the future, so the delay will hopefully shrink from 3s to <1s. Problems However, many people, me included, found the SA unreliable in combination in smoke. So 2 Days ago I encountred the problem directly in a Random match and recorded it here: Session 1, Video1: First Appearance So I went to the training room with a friend and investigated: Session 1 ,Test2: First Result Test 2 however was not giving proper results of the problem so we tired to reproduce it once again, an it was made clear, that there is, indeed a problem. Session 1, Test3: Watertight proof From test 3 we could conclude that this was no longer related to the SA skill. Today I reproduced the problem again in a 3rd attempt: Session 2, test 3: Sync Problem this test nr3 makes the problem even more interesting, and shows a possible desync between client and server. The problem appears on the very edge of smoke, as seen in the attached image, in step nr, 4. In the last video I test whats happening if you are reversing / moving forward. Session 4, test 1: Reversing Session 1, Test 3 with Smoke with Boundaries

If the Shimakaze is running the Target Acqustion System modification 1, he has a higher forced detection range, you would have something like 2km whie he would have 2.5km or so... so he would detect you in smoke but you wouldn't detect him...

Thank you for noticing me senpai~! Looks like the red phone worked ;)

Looks like the ranks are messed up, there are 2 tier 10 ranks now.. Rank 2 and Rank 1. I can also confirm the rank mismatch. Rank 14 displaying as rank 13 Found out, that mods are causing this ;)

Artillery Plotting Room Modification 2 (-7% to maximum dispersion of main battery shells): the bonus has been increased to -16% to maximum dispersion of main battery shells. This upgrade will be available only for US battleships in PT its only 11% though

you are prob right, i mistook it for the "-7% to maximum dispersion of main battery shells" from the current 2nd slot... but still im not sure its right