Admiral_noodle

We have no way of knowing. However I wouldn't think it necessary as all WG need to do is set up an algorithm to make sure no matter how many are bought the relative numbers still work out correctly. You could be right. Or not. However haven't you gambled enough yet? Also I think the chance of a premium ship goes down the more premiums you have. I got two. Ishizuchi and Atago. And up until yesterday I didn't have any ijn premiums. Now I do. I have a lot of the others. So actually it might be the fact you got 4 premiums that is reducing your own drop rate.

For people like me - yes. For my student friends who have little money and lots of time to spend playing their favourite game to get free stuff... not so much.

Possibly the department/people responsible for marketing and promotions. I live eternally in hope though. I do know some WG employees who do care about the game tho. Of course a company is made up of lots of people with different priorities... it's not a single hive mind. Anyway. Glad to see CCTs speaking up about this. Would be nice if they all got together and did something.

Does it? I don't have zao I'll have to check that out sometime. But the ships I've played today have really nice gun sounds now.

This can actually be explained in terms of demographics. For example you might want to vary silver rewards and xp etc depending on your demographics. Let's say a line isn't getting played on NA. Then offer incentives to that server. Offer different rewards for other servers. Similarly the requirements might vary depending on each player base. But offering unique content as a reward on one server and payed for on another is unfair and a breach of trust (I like that term). Aerroon also mentioned players might now have too many credits which is bad for the game in the long run. I accept this. The reason for selling the tirpitz camo as given is to make it more accessible (!) Isn't there a blindingly OBVIOUS solution to this then? Offer the camo *for credits* generated in a certain time period. Might be tricky to work out (you want it grindable not just there for anyone with free cash) to give everyone an equal chance. Maybe make a grind mission with an option at the end to buy with credits instead. Or just sell it for credits. Or just don't offer credits as a reward for missions. Or add more things in we can spend credits on. Like er lots of new lines!

What planet do you live on.If you are angry at what you got after knowingly taking a gamble it is no-one's fault but your own! Do you not use camo on your ships for the detection and dispersion buff? There - 40 camo is 900,000 credits saved before you get the other bonuses from the camos. Still don't like it? Then you shouldn't have bought ANY boxes as there was no guarantee you'd get what you wanted (!)

I actually meant in getting the best use out of their hydro but forgot to add it

"You have reached your quota of positive votes for the day" so +1 Reasonable, logical and entirely correct. And Aerron was defending WG initially so The cost of the Tirpitz camo is a bit insulting giving the reasoning...

Im not sure that's a big enough sample size

>__> I usually agree with you and you are an easy going chap so I wouldn't have been able to grind for the extra camo. I would have had to pay. I already have the tier 6 ships and am swimming in silver anyway... But some people in EU would have loved to have been given the opportunity and it was taken away to make money. No it's not the end of the world and no one has lost anything over it, but where is your sense of fair play? Is it not outraged in principle? Mine has been

Possibly because now I'm a supertester I HAVEto try to adjust to ships I might not "like". But personally I'd rather play the Germans than the ijn torpedo boats which make me rage (because it's a play style I'm not comfortable with) - reason being I think that the German dds reward tactical thinking and planning more than the others. But I do now wonder if the gun bloom nerf is too much.

My friends and I are very satisfied. Even with the 40 camo results. It's not a scam. A scam is where you are tricked by deceit. This is not deceitful. It is very clever by WG. But it's a business. You look at what's on offer then decide if it represents value. And you make that decision fully in the knowledge that you may only get camo. If you buy any of these boxes then get angry because you didn't get what you wanted... then it's your own fault. And you say "got nothing" - which is misrepresentation. You do get camo at "worst". I got plenty of camo from the 10 boxes I opened. Plus 3 premium ships

Me too I love the sound of the new guns.

So I did the same thing and went pink!! Had to spend all day washing myself clean. Maybe I should go easy on Atago drivers. I blame the ship. I would sh if remembered his name. I was going to get him one of those one euro things as a sorry.

Stop it or even I'll think it's rigged. Buy me one instead

Completely agree and very reasonably put.

I felt the guns on the DEDD were "good enough", but I do think the stealth firing nerf is a bit heavy handed simply because of the reason you just mentioned - about the fact that once you've killed the dd with your guns you'll be spotted by something miles away whereas the comparable US DD will return to unspotted immediately. I didn't play them with this nerf - as Sub_Octavian says it was done in the patch. However I didn't have CE or even AFT on my captain so I faced a similar penalty from firing BUT I didn't have the range either - which is why I was forced to play like I said. Now you do raise a good point about close up gunfights. Here my lack of range didn't make any difference, but I can see there are times now where I might have fought DDs, won and gone back into stealth - but with the ships now I might be spotted by a ship a very long way away. The smoke I rarely sat in and fired from, I used it to disengage after a gunfight. The extra HP does help, but then again german DDs seem to take a lot of damage. We'll have to see now. I don't think they will be unplayable using the ambush/smoke scavenge play style, but it will be interesting to see the stats. I think 1-4 and 8-10 will still do OK, but I think the 5-7 might be having a few difficulties, especially with MM the way it is. EDIT: Highlighted bold bit - its not invisifire that I think more experienced players are concerned about, its the very large detection debuff meaning you can be spotted by ships that would otherwise not have spotted you when fighting someone close.

Having an opinion that I like the german DDs makes me one of "them"? I'm WG biased now because I personally like the DD line despite stating I don't like US or RU dds... which have been around for ages. Good logic. Thanks for sending me the message you're ignoring me too, glad you went to the effort

Sorry but while the convoy mission is unfair and WGEU are being mean, this wasn't a deliberate attempt to conceal something from anyone especially not CCTs. It was a mistake for which an apology has been given. Granted a bit of a daft one but no need to start accusing the devs of being duplicitous. Leave that to marketing

Was this this afternoon around the time of the server switches?

No no I agree you're absolutely right. But having a pop at Tuccy for not continually replying when there is no good it will do seems a bit unfair don't you think? And yes you have a point at "let them rage". But some people are posting their rage in other posts wherever someone from WG replies which is also unfair.

Use cover and keep an eye on everything. Especially how many BBs are looking at you or could shoot you. If not in cover sail like you're panicking. Because you probably are

Off topic. The reason why they aren't posting in the other thread is because there is nothing new to say. On topic. The Germans didn't use pink camo but the brits did can we have Mediterranean camo for RNCL? Google it

Um maybe because there is nothing new to say?

I agree, it's a bit clunky and the notifications are undismissable and get in the way. Will add to UI feedback.