Deckeru_Maiku

But it's every player's job to do everything to win the effing battle. Which usually is not achieved by stupidly farm useless damage against non-vital targets.

Belarus (= White Russia) or "Not quite so white" Russia... no difference I'd say... share the same historically grown culture.

That home office is where exactly? Belarus, isn't it? Seems they have the appropriate business culture to work in Belarus... fitting in perfectly...

Well, they recycled the mechanics and put them on Dutch Cruisers, right? So no money wasted, no tears shed... Lots of thinking involved here. Too bad that it's not done by WG

Like me, today... My Mutsu ended up as high tier BB on Strait (Standard Battle, starting on the left side, up) and when sailing towards the map's center a wild Nürnberg appeared at 18 or so klicks... guns were loaded and pointed in the right direction... Boom... and shortly after BOOM! One disintegrated Nürnberg... (seems 3 AP hits from 8 guns can be enough for that...). So I felt the need to say "Oooopsie... sorry..." in chat. Didn't got an answer though...

Putting subs into their proper surrounding for missions with convoy attack action with some DDs/Cruisers/BBs/whatever as defense would have been utterly okay for me. Putting subs into random battles will f*ck up the meta (even more than it is already) and therefor I can't see anything positive about it. And so there's no "best of it" that I see for me in this scenario.

you can call the animals by their real name: cashcows...

Of course it's easier to listen to people who are eagerly foam on the mouth when thinking of subs.. and throwing them a little reward cookie "Good boy, good boy.." for not being really critical. It makes them earn more money in the end... And there was a shipload of calmly given critique with valid arguments... which of course are utterly ignored as they don't fit into WGs mindset. Wg does what WG thinks that gives them the most profit and f*ck gameplay and what players think... Expectations, again... So after a while she wizened up and left you, I presume? define "most"... ah, I know.. "most of the 20% of positive critics" which of course see other things as "vital" as those people, who think that subs are bad for normal gameplay and therefor have to be ignored, because (see above) Seems like what that GF did... and if WG takes the crap far enough I will leave. Right now and for the foreseeable future I am able to still spend time in the game and have (some) fun. Luckily I enjoy low tier battles. And even CoOp can be used to spend some time. So sorry that I have to disappoint you, but I'm still inclined to stay for a while.

I knew it from the start when they anounced that they would put subs into the game. The was a minuscule chance that WG would go the only proper way to do it - here: give them a seperate playmode with missions - but I never that expected that to happen. I also knew that any critics would get ignored and player feedback would be mostly ignored or at least only lead to marginal changes in WGs concept - as mommy WG knows best - and I already stated several times what my reaction of subs getting forced into random battles will be. On the other hand all the pro-sub defenders probably will be the ones who are in for a nice surprise when subs really come... meta will change, but not to the better, and quite a few players will do like I will do or rather leave the game. And soon after WG will come up with the next crappy idea to finance their needs (= vodka and females of negotiable virtue). So yeah, your optimism amazes me..

This comment tells you all you need to know about how WG thinks about their customers (and non-paying players): STFU and give us your money...

your still existing optimism is mind-boggling...

No.. 12 per team. Always. Keeps them out of the other battles... win situation for all... except CVs, but who cares... Could of cause also modified into X CVs and Y subs up to a 12... would also be greatly welcomed... by normal players...

Dude, it's going to be the cruisers to get crapped on hardest in that scenario.. or Cruiser, as with 5 BaBBis in each and every battle there's not that many slots available for cruisers anyway... Well, I've never been a really competitive player, so restricting my game to CoOp - and playing a sub there, to make sure there's at least one bot sub in the battle - and playing as relaxed as possible will my personal solution, I guess...

Sooo... for me, subs seem to be planned as another kick in the bollocks for DDs and Cruisers?!? like with... To make sonar ping usage more comfortable, its speed has been increased. This will make interaction with maneuverable targets — cruisers and destroyers — easier. The guidance of their torpedoes has also been improved against other submarines and worsened against battleships. (Which means it stays the same against DDs and Cruisers) we're considering additional limitations affecting multiple classes together, for example both submarines and destroyers, or destroyers, submarines and aircraft carriers. E.g. no more than 5 destroyers and submarines combined. (which would result in longer wait time for DDs... not for CVs, as there's that many of them around anyway...) Looks WG plans to make cruisers the main target for subs, while at the same time restricting the number of DDs in the battle. BaBBies rejoice, nobody dares to make your life hard, as you're still the one big group of money-cows in the game, it seems...

While agreeing with it, I was reminded about a passage in a Terry Pratchett book: "Alright, lets spread out...." Several minutes passed... "Good, that was already quite nice, but the next time You should spread out in different directions..." About what I would expect from WoWs players... all spreading out in the same direction...

..which of course will take away all the problems with non-effective AA that players have in all tiers between 3 and 9, right? Being able to skill for a few T10 ships to be a pita for their same-tier CVs doesn't mean sh*t for all other ships and other tiers. Still leaves AA as useless and CVs a pita, And adding hybrids into this cesspool isn't helping a bit.

Yep, I'm a very negative person... born a pessimist and glad for it. 'cause when always expecting the worst to happen, I usually can only surprised in a positive way. Like when in a battle one of the usual potatoes does something valuable for the win. Which rarely happens, which is why I don't need that many compliments. No need to give a compliment for someone who just did his effing job, right? And the reason why I only have those 8 possible compliments/reports is that I am bitching like a madman in chat when people play as mentally challenged persons. So of course I get reported... and therefor my karma has never been higher than maybe 10 or 15 points before it got "adjusted" again.

Okay, a bit more serious this time: I agree with limiting the negative reports, so one could only report members of his own team, but not an opponent to penalze him for outplaying him. The compliments should be unlimited in number, except for a one-a-day for members of the same clan.

That translates to me as "Whining CV players can have their own threads, but when plebs start whining about CVs their threads get locked as soon as enough of the usual suspects from the (4.5%) "CV Community" show up and manage to drag it down into a general discussion" Edit: no need to give names, as they identify themselves by downvoting this post...

Why? My compliments are limited to 8 and usually at the end of the day I've still got 5 or so unused...

They have been frustrating for non-CV players since the reeework. So you might want to be a bit patient when waiting for WGs reaction...

fixed that for You.

Idgaff!

rather looks like Anna is looking for a way out of Belorussia by marrying a westerner?!?

Considering that the only time I see - consciously - my captains is when I check and/or their skills they could be smurfs or aliens or whatnots and i'dngaff. As least they don't come with an annoying voice for the ingame soundbits. I mean... One of my most played captains is an italian... really.. italian...