Takru

Die Beschwerden über die geringe Effektivität der Sekundärartillerie berücksichtigt weiter nicht, wie das denn ausgeglichen werden soll wenn diese effektiver gemacht würde. Was sollen Zerstörer mit geradezu lächerlich geringer Torpedoreichweite dann noch machen? Das beträfe zuerst mal sämtliche russischen Zerstörer. Schau mal ins High Tier, da sind komischerweise nicht hauptsächlich die Kanonenboote unterwegs sondern Torpedowerfer. Mit stärkerer Sekundärartillerie würden diese Kanonenboote noch mehr benachteiligt, da können die ihre Fische auch gleich im Hafen lassen. Würdest du wollen das der Bereich in dem diese Boote unentdeckt feuern können vergrößert wird (denn was sollen die sonst machen)? Was würde das für weitere Diskussionen nach sich ziehen?

Ganz ehrlich.... wenn ein Zerstörer sich über offene See an dich heranarbeiten kann und du nicht auf ihn reagierst, dann ist nicht die Sekundärartillerie das Problem. Das mag bei manchen Zerstörer durchaus schwierig sein, aber du nimmst hier einen russischen Zerstörer als Beispiel und die Dinger werden so ziemlich am ehesten von allen Zerstörern aufgedeckt. Eine voll ausgebaute Fubuki zum Beispiel siehst du erst ab gut 5,5 KM, aber die hat auch Torpedos mit mindestens 10km Reichweite. Zumal, wie beschrieben, einige Zerstörer Torpedos mit sehr geringer Reichweite haben. Wie sollen die das kompensieren?

Da sind wir uns eben nicht einig. Wenn jemand so nah an ein Schlachtschiff herankommt, dann soll er auch eine brauchbare Chance haben das zu überleben. Schau dir mal die Torpedoreichweiten einiger Schiffe an, darunter mal die Ognevoij (T6) mit grandiosen 4 km Reichweite. Die Sekundärartillerie eines Schiffes wird nie die Hauptgeschütze ersetzen. Wenn die mal was treffen ist das ein Bonus, eine Möglichkeit um stark beschädigte Gegner abzuschrecken. Aber kein Garant dafür jeden Gegner in X km Reichweite zu zerbröseln. Zum besseren Verständnis würde ich dir ans Herz legen einmal die anderen Klassen intensiver zu spielen. Rund 84% deiner Spiele waren in Schlachtschiffen, vielleicht ist es einleuchtender wenn du dich mit den anderen Schiffsklassen etwas mehr auseinandersetzt.

Du willst stärkere Sekundärgeschütze für Schlachtschiffe? Was bekommen die anderen Schiffsklassen um das auszugleichen?

Dürften rund 10% weniger Streuung sein. Das siehst du wenn du dir die Streuung der Hauptgeschütze per mouseover anzeigen lässt.

Yamato kann die Sekundärartillerie auf was für eine Reichweite ausweiten? 11 km etwa? Noch fragen?

You see, it's not about changing things just like that. It's about the feedback for the feedback, or rather the lack thereof. Just to stick to the example given, which are bundles: The first time we heard that the higher echelons of WG, or at least WG EU, are aware that this is a constant source of frustration, at least for the comparably small group of regular forumites, was actually in the form of the videos uploaded by Jingles. Yes, WG staff here said that they had reported the issue up the chain, but I actually was hoping for an answer like the one given by Markus Schill in the video*. Of course bundles are working for Wargaming, but that's not the question. The question is, are they working well enough? Could Wargaming earn more money and at the same time get rid of that topic on her forums by changing their sales strategy? That could potentially be a real win-win situation. * I realize that you or the other Community Managers can not possibly give that kind of answer, I meant an answer from someone higher up the ladder.

By the same logic, Austro-Hungarian ships could be included into the German tree, coudn't they? I mean, Austria-Hungary did have an imposing fleet until the end of WW1 and I do hope that some of their vessels will make it into the game. However, since they won't be able to fill a full tech tree with those nation's ships, it would seem to be a logical spot to put them. Btw: Are there any more ideas about Polish ships? You know, the Blyskawica currently sits alone in her very own tech tree...

May be one game finishes just past midnight and is counted towards this weeks weekly missions?

What should be the maximum number of pearls people could've gained by now? Sorry, can't tell you otherwise if I am short those 7 pearls. I currently am at 159 pearls with 20 still done. That would make a maximum of 179 by now, right? (in other words, about 2 weeks until Kamikaze if weekly missions stay the same)

Doch, Perlen kannst du auch in ranked machen.

Same here :-(

Well, you never know and I would like to be sure rather than sorry. Brynd was kind enough to answer that (and other questions... sort of) here: http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/42188-update-on-project-r-in-europe/page__pid__801593#entry801593

Well, I obviously can only make guestimations about how many people actually are participating (if you would be willing to give me more insight here, I'm all ears. It'd be a most faszinating experience from a professional point of view.). The calculation was also mainly meant to demonstrate the rather small chance of winning a Kamikaze through lottery. The second explaination.... well... let's just say no matter how hard I think about it, it just doesn't make sense to me. We're talking about 260 pearls NA and EU have to collect compared to 145 on the RU server. How do play style or, god forbid, population figure into this? RU is rumored to have the largest population of all communities. Even if we were talking about the total goals per server (2 / 4 million NA, 10 million EU, how much on RU?), following the population argument should mean that the RU community would have to reach even more than either NA or EU. SEA community, your test balloon, also only needed 150 pearls iirc. Third point. Yay! Sorry, but had to ask.

Regarding the number of pearls, let's just wait and see how it evolves... Still wondering why EU and NA are getting treated worse than RU by having to collect 260 pearls instead of 145. Don't know why you could not just make it 150 pearls which would be similar to the RU efforts. Any explaination for that? And just to be sure.... the Kamikazes you are giving away for 260 pearls.... are they going to be deducted from the total of 2000 for the lottery or will the lottery still have 2000 ships to give away, regardless of how many people earn 260 pearls?

Brynd, could I drag your attention to the maths problem we're facing here? And why do EU and NA have to earn that much more pearls to get a guaranteed ship while RU gets the Marblehead for about half as many? And one more question: Will the Kamikaze R which are awarded to those with 260 pearls be deducted from the stock of 2000? Or will the lottery still give away 2000 Kamikaze R?

German forums as well: http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/42171-projekt-r-update-zum-event/page__p__801113#entry801113 260 pearls = you are guaranteed a Kamikaze 150 pearls = you participate in the lottery

Ectar and all the other WG people: Could I bore you a bit with math: Point being... we lack players to collect 10.000.000 pearls if things continue the way they do. (sorry if this has been calculated already in this thread) Assume there's 20.000 active players participating in the event. This week they can make 122 pearls each. After that, assuming the weekly pearl gain is the same as right now, they'll only be able to make 57 per week. The event is running until 24th Feb, which means it runs for a total of 6 weeks. 20.000 * 122 = 2.440.000 57 *5 *20.000 = 5.700.000 So, even with 20.000 participants in the EU, who all fulfill the all the goals they can within the timeframe set by Wargaming, maths tell us that we'll end up at 8.140.000 pearls. We would need another 4.571 people participating, who also need to contribute the maximum number of pearls to make it to 10.000.000 pearls by the 24th of February. And this leaves us with a mind blowing win chance for a Kamikaze R of 8,14%. Mind you that this actually the best chance of winning the participants can hope to get. There will probably be a good number of people who either accidentally reach the 150 pearls threshold or just don't care about the contest any more when they reached the threshold because they just want to participate in the lottery. This in turn also means that even if Wargaming would increase the quantity of pearls which can be earned per week, the win chance would not increase by much, unless they do something drastic, i.e. allowing people to collect all those 122 pearls per week, which would mean a maximum number of 722 pearls instead of 407 over 6 weeks. However, even if that was the case, this would still require 13.851 to collect all those 722 pears, which would still mean a win chance of 14,44%.... at best.

Am I the only one seeing blank space between "the" and the rest of the word?

Ich hoffe inständig das im Hintergrund irgendjemand versucht Verstand in die Köpfe derjenigen zu hämmern, die sich dieses Event in dieser Form ausgedacht haben.

US Server ist bei gut 900.000 von angepeilten 4.000.000 Perlen, rund 22 % Davon abgesehen wurde schon vorgerechnet das das von WG EU gesteckte Ziel nach derzeitigem Stand nicht erreichbar ist.

Ab 150 Perlen werde ich dem "Event" keine Aufmerksamkeit mehr widmen. Dann ist das Ziel erreicht, darüberhinaus zu sammeln empfinde ich als zwecklos. Vielleicht werden dann aus versehen noch Perlen dazukommen, aber gezielt werde ich dann keine Aufträge mehr abschliessen. Denke mal das geht nicht nur mir so.

Bringt es ziemlich auf den Punkt.