LastButterfly

Ouais -.- Bah je passe. Je suis nul avec les avions et parfois, juste une game sur cent je sort un truc décent sur une défaite. De toute façon j'ai pas le courage d'apprendre tout les trucs sur les aviosn, quand on me dit "vise tel partie" sur un truc qui fait quelques mètres d'envergures et qui bouge à plusieurs centaines de kmh alors que toi aussi tu bouge à quelques centaines que kmh, ça me dépasse. Comment tu veux que je vise le moteur ? Même si je savais où il se trouve, je sauterais déjà de joie si j'arrivais à toucher n'importe quelle partie de l'avion alors viser ?

Oh je suis tout pourri à WT aussi. Mais tourner autour d'un T-34 en Locust pour lui pourrir la vie c'est très drole. Je fais une game par ci par là des fois. AU pif.

Ils sont toujours en closed beta. Les rumeurs disent que l'open devrait arriver janvier/février 2018, si pas avant. Sinon tu peux entrer dans la closed beta avec un bundle comme avec WG avant. Perso je vaius attendre l'open, ça vaut plus le coup d'acheter pour entrer si tu veux mon avis.

Et pour l'instant avec les DD c'est toi qui tire sur les avions. Tu controles les DP, les petits calibres sont semi-auto si je me souviens bien de juillet, aka ils agissent seuls mais tu peux en prendre le controle. En somme ya de l'interaction~ Fletcher a des obus radio d'ailleurs.

... Bon "gros navires VS tank" ça par contre j'ai rien lu. On devra surement se contenter de gros navires VS gros navires. Et avions éventuellement =3

Ils ont des Fletcher/Yuugumo maintenant avec d'autres DD et ont annoncé des plus gros bateaux dans une FAQ. Mets à jour tes infos~

J'attends les batôs de WT quoi qu'on en dise.

On peut. Les japonais étaient en plein entre trois guerres à cette époque. Ils ne perdaient pas de temps à dessiner des projets si les specs elles-mêmes n'étaient pas réalistes. Ils n'avaient pas les moyens humains et industriels pour se permettre de perdre des ressources dans des projets technologiquement impossibles. C'est dans le même principe que les Tillman Battleships. Ils ont été dessinés, ils n'en voulaient pas vraiment, mais l'étude a quand même été faite et construire + faire flotter était technologiquement possible. Après, en effet, ils ne pouvaient pas créer un cuirassé de 3 000 000 de tonnes avec 50 tourelles de 410mm... Mais uniquement du point de vue financier. Quant au fait qu'une image suffit à prouver qu'un projet est stupide et délirant... Tokugata Sensuikan.

Because WG isn't a French compagny.

"Fleet Torpedo Boat' with carateristics surpassing that of destroyers in other nations. A fast firing 130mm armament in 3*2 guns and the size and displacement at full load of a Kagero ? If Le Hardi is a torpedo boat, than Italians destroyers are actually all patrol gunboats and so are most of the British. It should not be forgotten that what French classified as Contre-Torpilleur, which should translate to the notion of destroyer, was considered by several other nations to be Light Cruisers. Also, le Hardi and Le Fantasque actually had the same cruise speed, which were 37kn. And while Fantasque could do with faster, above 40kn was nothing but a trial record, unusable in real service. Besides, the Hardi class achieved 39kn. I get what you mean by "noticeably slower" but dude, its cruise speed, not even max speed, is above Kagero and Fletcher's one. I thing it's good enough xD Edit : also fun fact : Fantasque herself only ever achieved 42.7kn. Only her sister Terrible once managed to exceed 45.03kn. She used different boilers so that's probably why. Honestly WG will give Fantasque 43kn max. Wanna bet ? After all, they DID indeed write that Khabarovsk was unrivaled in terms of speed...

With such a love I wouldn't wanna be your girlfriend. Not. British were during the whole course of WWII very opposed to the american view of almost completely dropping battleships for the sake of carriers. This is why they even bothered building the Vanguard class so late.

So Bufallo's the April variant. There's not much change between the three, January one has different secondary layout, but I was curious nonetheless. Thanks for precising. I understand how you can be put off by the very idea of a 12 inchers line, and many people are. But I feel like there's potential. A line of super-cruisers or pocket battleships, sometimes also dubbed Large Cruisers or Cruiser Killers, could feel very nice and we don't have that just yet in the game. If any nation can have such a line, it'd be either Germany or America. Not that others didn't have any, and some <210mm guns cruisers have been drawn everywhere here and there (Italy had Up90, Up102 and Ansaldo's 1936 project for Russia, Russia also had whatever design Moskva was based on, can't remember, British had the Chruchill Cruisers which I think were called 9/39 and 2/40...). But none has ever drawn or planned that many and seldom ever built such ships. Germans and Americans are the exception, for they have built Graf Spee and Alaska respectively. They also drew many more of those than some other nations, which makes a line of half a line possible. The reason why i'm especially interested in Americans having such a line is because, while other coutries limited their guns to 240, 250 or 280mm, America's cruiser killers usually had 305mm guns. Just because they'd have different guns at high tier could make the line unique and worth it, all the while leaving the place for another line of 240~280mm cruiser-killers from germany too. And other nations can have their stuff as premiums I guess, if the concept works. Ah, that's correct, with Magic Minotaur in the group, nothing compares. Honestly if I was in charge I would modify Minotaur instead of downtiering everything else. Besides Worcester at TIX would be a nightmare for carriers. Its AA would be superior to Minotaur's -.-

Fun fact for those who don't know already : Khabarovsk is originated from a russian attempt at almost copying the Italian esploratori Capitani Romani with seldom (if any) changes. Capitani Romani was itself Italy's take at creating a ship that would equal Mogador, based on a similar design. Khabarovsk is more or less the copy of a copy of Mogador. Therefore if there's any logic at all their gameplay should end up being somewhat similar right ? In any case, always great topics CKD. Tho I can't understa how you can still put even a tiny bit of faith in this game, I admire your dedication and effort. And your drawing talents.

Dans le milieu tu dessines rarement un navire sans un minimum d'étude sur la faisabilité du truc.

Zipang est pas plus con que le Ferdinando Cassone et ses 40kn en 1912 hein.

Si, les tourelles rondes c'est des 406mm mec. C'est écrit en haut à droite

Ah sisi Kaneda il était sérieux avec son Zipang.

Fair point. Mais ya bien une raison pour laquelle personne les utilise. Tiens d'ailleurs j'ai une vid stupid pour toi. Faudra que je te la PM.

I totally want USS Northampton as a wtf premium in a medium-high tier. Just for funzies. With 4 fast firing 127mm and powerful radars. I mean look at this... floating anomaly. Who wouldn't want to drive this thing ?

Et comme le montre très bien Conqueror laisser choisir veut dire : WG se fait suer à en balancer qu'une comp sur les deux, du coups, tout le monde utilise la même et comme personne utilise une des deux WG ne voit pas l'intéret de la rebalance et ensuite elle est delete. (Enfin dans le cas du conqueror c'est plutôt WG ne balance aucune des deux comp)

Well, since apparently we can cry about germans no having radars can I ask for a Type 22 on my Yuugumo ?

Which design did you decide Bufallo is ? As far as I know it came in three stages, drawn respctively in March, April and September 1940, and the March one derived from another cruiser drawn in january of the same year. I'd have personally overlooked the Scout Cruiser C-1 of 1920 because of how odd it is, and considering the line it leads to, more conventional heavies like CA2-A of January 1940 or - sicne CA2-A's way too powerful for the tiea - the scheme 3 of March 1940 could fit better. I'd have also disapproved the lack of a sub-branch of 12-inch cruisers but if I recall you have a special battlecruiser line where you put them don't you ? If you wanna toy with CLs btw you can toy with the Brooklyn preliminaries. These things are truly hilarious. There's no material for another TX CL but with originality you could make another CL line that'd reach from tier V or VI to IX. Honestly i'm not a fan of the hypothetical Worcester with new turrets as triple turrets completely break the point of Worcester itself. But that's a question of tastes.

Dethrone Touhou ? Dethrone Touhou ? You shall know, young lad, that nothing will ever dethrone Touhou, for the sacred ground of Gensokyo are far brighter than anything in our world...

Worry not cupcake I was teasing ya~ I obviously know a statement has its exception especially with WG. Besides, IJN HE shells used a different explosive than British ones so the mass itself won't give all the infos. RE factor comes in handy there.