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  1. LastButterfly

    Favorite shipgirl (Kancolle,Azur lane, Arpeggio of blue steel,Haifuri)

    Well, technically yes. But you might have difficulties spotting the differences by looking at the ships : the most major difference lies inside. The British realized that huge aircraft carriers that carried very few planes were cool, but expensive for what they were - and as attached as they were to putting armor everywhere, they could make a little effort and try to fit in more planes. Indomitable differs from Illustrious by a 2-level hangar, further expanded with the thinning of the hangar's side armor. It was quite significant : strictly speaking, she had more hangar space than a modified Yorktown class. But the Admiralty had not planned for any dedicated deck park, unlike the Americans, so she still carried less planes. Nevertheless, she was rated for 45 planes and her complement was swiftly increased to between 50 and 55 in 1942~43 - topping at 60+ in 1945 -, a drastic increase from Illustrious' planned complement of 33 (eventually, they would desperatly try to squeeze as many planes as they could on Illustrious, so her complement in activity varies wildly ; she often reached 40~45 here and there., and Victorious at one point in 1943 had 50 but it's debtable whether she could reliably operate that many) Indomitable is sometimes classifyied as just a sister of Illustrious with alterations ; other sources like calling her a single-member subclass. It can happen that the Illustrious class is bundled with both Indomitable and the Implacables, and the whole thing is described as a 3-group superclass. Implacable was also quite similar, although she had additional differences with her predecessors (for exemple, 4 shafts).
  2. LastButterfly

    Favorite shipgirl (Kancolle,Azur lane, Arpeggio of blue steel,Haifuri)

    Funny. I shall amend what I said earlier. Our viewpoints do not clash nearly as much as I first thought. That is also, more or less, my process. I just would not have rated it as "easy". It's quite extensive work, you're basically writing an entire story per character. I did not know the term had spread to other languages. Funnily enough, in French, it has somewhat lost this meaning of pure art. When this oriental-styled of furniture and decoration became popular, a lot of it started to be be counterfeit for the European market, so "Chinoiserie" has become a somewhat derogatory term that indicates the object in question is of little to no value and/or artistic interest. Calling somebody's piece of decoration a "chinoiserie" is something of a small jab, it's not too mean, but you're basically saying it looks a bit cheap and ridiculous instead of artistic. I don't know of a proper translation in english. Bauble, trinket or knick-knack come to mind, but it's possible the connotation they carry is slightly different.
  3. LastButterfly

    Favorite shipgirl (Kancolle,Azur lane, Arpeggio of blue steel,Haifuri)

    Interesting. Maybe I should have said "writing good characters isn't easy" but I imagine you answer would've been the same, so it's probably a clash of viewpoints. If you have pointers, I would be happy to hear them. Strictly speaking, I haven't managed yet. There are several (many) dozens I am that I judge as "good enough, to be expanded later", and a single dozen that I'm fully satisfyied with. The remaining hundred-ish are in a sort of limbo where I have written something for them (often, multiple things), but kinda want to write it again from scratch. It's not unlike me, since I tend to often do that - restart multiple times, and let every previous attempts be a distant influence, until they are numerous enough to create a feeling of depth. Hundred is a bit mean. I don't have the exact number, but let's say about half of the Fletchers, i'm not happy enough with how they are. But we're getting there. I want to know, but... Bache and Beale are amongst the "good enough for now" category and I've grown quite fond of my interpretation of these two. So I'm... kinda scared to ask
  4. LastButterfly

    Favorite shipgirl (Kancolle,Azur lane, Arpeggio of blue steel,Haifuri)

    A blessing and a curse at the same time. Having nothing to use as a basis allows you to let your imagination run wild and free... but if you're drawing a blank, nothing will come to help steer you in any direction.
  5. LastButterfly

    Favorite shipgirl (Kancolle,Azur lane, Arpeggio of blue steel,Haifuri)

    Isn't it about how variety just for the sake of variety is bad ? "Different" doesn't mean "interesting". You can make a bullet-point list of character traits and everytime you make a new character, pick three you haven't crossed. That will make unique ones, but they won't be good if that's your only criterion. It's possible I just don't know what I'm talking about, but I've made my own personalities for every 175 Fletchers so I know how much the urge of not making the same thing twice can end up creating characters that are at the same time completely unique and completely bland. In this case, it is variety which begets boredom, by eclipsing everything else. Writing a character is not easy...
  6. LastButterfly

    Favorite shipgirl (Kancolle,Azur lane, Arpeggio of blue steel,Haifuri)

    Bah, it wasn't too bad for her time, honestly. We are talking about a 1900s class. I think this Emden was the first German warship equippe with triple-expansion turbines. But I'm not sure. At any rate, she was slower. Technology doesn't do everything, especially when you divide the number of turbines by two... The second Königsberg class (there were 3 within 30 years. They also contained two Karlsruhe and two Nürnberg. It's best to mention which of the three one's talking about at all times, just to be sure...) was equipped with 149mm main battery but that's par for the course in WWI. It would be Karlsruhe that'd have the weird turbines in this one, inaugurating the geared high-pressure turbines that her sisters wouldn't have. There's not much to say about their Emden. Oh, yeah, it carried two hundred mines. It's a LOT. And so, erm... The third Emden of the eponymous class of only herself isn't here, hu ? I know she was derived from the second Königsberg class but there's a bit more to say about her at least... Not that she was very much exciting anyway, because the German kinda liked doing the same thing over and over, but still. Oh well. Sad butterfly doesn't have much to say about German ships most of the time.
  7. LastButterfly

    Is this a warship game?

    Eh. The Americans largely experimented with CVs in their fleet problems, in a good way for once ; their view evolved pre-war, and it was, in general, not anymore a simple "BBs are better, CVs support them" before Midway. At all. Japan followed a somewhat similar path. On the other hand, much of the British admiralty kept arguing after Midway that it had been a sort of "CV fluke" and was not at all a proof that BBs were obsolete. The royal navy would take much, much more time to admit that. Midway was a catalyst of this change, but by no means a trigger, and its effect varied widely. In a sense, Taranto - and Pearl Harbor to a lesser extent - were far more impacting when it comes to pushing CVs in the front.
  8. It’s the mid 1917. You’re a leader in steel production and probably one of the biggest corporations in the world. Meanwhile, your government realized the year prior that its merchant marine was peanuts at the scale of the world, so it created a Shipping Board which basically asked industries to make some ships. And now your country is at war so the board is begging industries to make some ships fast. What do you do ? Sponsor a steel-based television show to “educate the public about how great steel is” ? No, television isn’t even a popular thing yet. Wait a few decades before doing that. First, you should probably make some ships. Well GUESS what US Steel did in that exact situation ! SPOT ON - they bought a small bit of peninsula between New York and Newark, in a small (by US standard…) suburban town called Kearny, and they started making some ships. And so was born the Federal Shipbuilding and Drydock Company, promised to a significant future… 1945 view of Federal’s Kearny yard. Sorry, I don’t have photos from 1917. Not that there would be much to be seen then… Builders of Legends - The Star of Speed Federal Shipbuilding and Drydock Company 1\ Children of the War Federal was not acquired from a smaller shipbuilding company. It was literally nothing in summer 1917. Wanting to make ships is good and all but you kinda need some really big infrastructures and even if you can produce/buy parts (boilers, steel plates, tanks, stacks) somewhere else, you still need expensive facilities just to hold the ship while you assemble it. US Steel already had the steel, however (and more importantly, they had the money). So they could afford these things. And by these things I mean ALL of them. Buying boilers ? Ain’t nobody got time for that. We’ll build our own ! At Kearny ! Why have to transport plates throughout the country when you can have your very own steel mill ! At Kearny ! Eh ? These things use a lot of energy ? Okay, so we’ll have to PRODUCE OUR OWN ELECTRICITY. AT KEARNY ! American subtlety at its finest. But at least we cannot take away from Federal’s workers their efficiency. The site was scouted in summer 1917 - in November, keels were being laid. Three merchant ships had been produced before the end of 1918, and 27 more in 1919. Clearly, speed-building was Federal’s destiny. But wait… You spent practically the rest of the war making your yard, so now… It’s not war anymore, right ? Its the 20s… Oops. At first, US Steel wasn’t too concerned by the whole interwar thing. The world’s always gonna need ships, right ? So they kept spending to expand the yard and have even more docks and cranes and stuff. Oh, the US government has just signed a naval arms race limitation treaty in Washington and because there are so many leftover Clemsons from the war it decided to practically pause warship construction entirely. This is going to harm a lot of shipyards in the US… … Bah, that’s fine ! It’s not like Federal was building warships anyway. What ? The Board was so pressing on commercial construction that now we have too many commercial ships ? … Pfff, nonsense ! We just need to attract the remaining contracts, and US Steel happens to have a lot of connections so Federal is safe. It’ll always have floating stuff to build. By the way, the yard just caught fire. … Okay well maybe we shouldn’t have built it out of wood. But like, big deal. We’ll just extinguish the fire by pouring money over it and everything will be fine. So long as the economy stands, Federal will stand ! And the economy will always stand, right ? … right ? The 20s were a very difficult time for shipbuilders in the US and also shipbuilders not in the US. But Federal was backed by a very, very, very big company, and following the Great Depression, the US Navy decided to finally modernize the fleet a bit, which means juicy, military contracts. Federal would eventually secure a couple Mahan, Somers, and Benham-class DDs for itself in the following decade, fully equipped and ready to produce them, alongside its still plentiful civilian contracts. In the end, it weathered the crisis of the 20s and came on top bigger, better, and ready to get experience in the 30s (that it would put to good use in the 40s). Obviously nothing could go wrong now. I mean, seriously, what could possibly happen ? 2\ Communism So, we’re in summer 1941. A hectic period, as you could easily guess. Rearmament was in order, and navy was no exception, so shipyards like Federal were very busy on expensive contracts that should be finished as quickly as possible. You can also easily guess the reactions of the brass when they saw workers were not working. It’s time for striiiiiiiiiikes ! So the workers were not happy because they wanted more power to the unions and the company didn’t want that. For the good part of august, they stopped working entirely, and demanded that the yard force its workers to unionize lest they’d be fired (yes, that’s a thing apparently). The president at the time was having none of it, so he went to the President with a capital P, Franklin in person, and basically said “I DON’T WANT TO DEAL WITH THIS. SEND THE NAVY AND TAKE CONTROL” and so the Navy went in and seized control of Federal, which became, for a short while, truly federal. Press photo taken during the 1940 strike at Federal At first the workers and their union were like “cool, the Navy is gonna be nice with us.” It was not. Rear Admiral Bowen, put in charge of Federal, described his method of dealing with workers : receiving them in small numbers, saying yes to everything they demanded, and then not doing it. Surprisingly it worked somewhat as activities restarted on the yard, just in time for the war that OH MY GOD WE’RE AT WAR WHAT DO WE DO. In comes the secretary of the navy claiming the Navy has “more pressing matters” and giving back control of the yard to the company asking them to sort their issues or take it to court. So the president came back, said “ALRIGHT FINE, unionize all you want - but I’m only doing that because it’s war and it’s an emergency, and not because I like you workers or anything, b-baka” and Federal was back on track. Just in time for war, because hey, it’s war ! And you’re a company ! That means BUSINESS ! 3\ Ultra-Super-High-Speed-Destroyer-Production Federal had somewhat large docks and shipways, but many contracts for important capital warships were given out to companies that had experience with their types. Federal had never built a battleship before. However, there was a big demand for smaller vessels - namely destroyers and escorts. Because the USN loves building them by the hundreds. At first, it was the Benson-Livermores and their repeats, but then they were replaced by the larger Fletcher-class. But then the navy got scared and was like “what if we can’t produce enough Fletchers to keep up with the losses ?” and it’s true that 2000t Fletchers, being bigger, took a bit more time to build than the 1600t Benson repeats. So the navy decided to keep the production of both types, in parallel. Just in case. BUT WHAT IF THE 1600t COME OUT TOO SLOW TOO ? And, yes, many, many were needed for escorts, so the navy designed a new type, slow, smol Destroyer Escorts, which could be built insanely fast. In short, there were a lot of contracts for screen ships. Federal started taking them, at first by small batches of 2 to 4, but then more at once, going from 6 or 8, to eventually 15 contracts at the same time. Because it said it could - and boy did it show it could. Federal’s main competitors in the field of destroyers were a legend in the making, Bath Iron Works ; the revived baby of Kaiser and Todd, Seattle-Tacoma Shipbuilding ; and Consolidated Steel’s brand new Orange yard, ready to pump as much as it could in the next 5 years ; with, eventually some of the Bethlehem plants and other major yards like Boston’s trying to keep up, but too busy with other things (like cruisers, carriers, or keeping the Royal Navy from collapsing unto itself). All these yards produced some significant numbers and made names for themselves, engraved forever in shipbuilding history. But Federal was just faster, and liked showing it. In the first half of 1942, it launched four destroyers in a single day. The next year, in march, the USS Dashiell, a Fletcher class, was commissioned in the navy just 170 days after its keel was laid, setting the record of the fastest ever 2000t US DD built. At this rate, why not set the record for 1600t DDs ? Boom, USS Thorn was accepted in service just the following month, 137 days after keel laying. If you have no notion of how long it takes to build a destroyer, let me stress the point : this is insanely fast, even by US standards. And it did these, all the while launching one destroyer escort every week. AND building cargo ships - taking on average 82 days for a C2 ! Federal was on a roll. It was not stopping anytime soon. It even acquired additional facilities at nearby Port Newark to build more and more. Of all the destroyers Federal produced, many would make history in various ways. Out of Kearny came notably USS Buchanan and Saufley, both decorated with 16 battle stars during WWII, the second highest for a destroyer and fourth highest overall ; alongside them, USS Edwards and Jenkins scored 14, and perhaps the most well-known Federal girl by default, USS Fletcher herself, garnered 15. As other Fletcher-class, many Federal-built ones would continue on to serve in later US wars in Korea and Vietnam, such as Radford and Renshaw, which accumulated a total of 21 and 19 battle stars in their career respectively. Fletcher, along with Federal-built Radford, Jenkins and La Vallette made up DesDiv 42, the latter part of the legendary DesRon 21, one of if not the most decorated squadron of the USN’s history. Other Federal girls illustrated themselves in various ways, such as USS Kearny, the first US warship to be torpedoed by a German submarine before the US entered the war after having assisted a British convoy, or USS Hammann, the one member of Yorktown’s escort during Midway that would share its fate. There is another one, but… it’s on the tip of my tongue… Eh, it’ll come back to me later. Either way. Federal built numerous DEs too, which due to their nature saw less action but were no less capital to the US war effort. By far the most well known DE from Federal has to be the infamous USS Eldridge, still sought after to this day by paranormal enthusiasts due to the Philadelphia experiment. Federal established itself as the largest producer of wartime destroyers, making a total of 69 Sumner, Fletcher and Benson+ combined. It also finished as the third largest builder of Destroyer Escort, at 52, behind Consolidated Steel’s 92 and Brown Shipbuilding’s 61. In the end, between Farragut and the last Gearing it would build a total of 145 major warships - a number unmatched by any other US yard. And just to [edited] over the larger ship producers, it landed 5 contracts for cruisers - all Atlantas, so basically big DDs - and proceeded to build them faster than the others. Because that’s what Federal does. USS Aaron Ward and Buchanan, ready for launch in november 1941 Conclusion\ Like a Shooting Star And with the Gearing class orders, came the end of the war, and the canceling of orders. WWII had seen quite a number of yards come into existence, and the ramping up of naval production dwarfed that of WWI. Now we don’t need as many ships, and thus, not as many shipbuilders too. This time, the market was probably not the most exciting for a huge company. Federal finished a dozen of Gearings, and kept getting some contracts for merchant and passenger vessels in 1946 and 1947. While what had been one of its main competitors, Bath Iron Works, consolidated its position as a warship builder, federal faded in obscurity, after having burnt out entirely. As a final nail in the coffin, in july 1947, east cost shipyard workers started a huge strike that would last months. The company president - the same who was already there at the beginning of the war - was so done with life and with Federal, and for once, US Steel agreed. In early 1948, Federal Shipbuilding and Drydock Company was sold to the Navy for a ridiculously low value and was put on standby, never to produce ships again. Kearny was eventually turned into a scrap yard, starting it hot by scrapping none other than USS Enterprise. Perhaps cursed by its nature, it became one of the USA’s most efficient and large scrap-yard of the following decades. Nowadays, not much, if anything, remains of it, replaced by warehouses, parking lots and other industries. But in history, in shipbuilding history, then yes, Federal remains. As one of the American yards that built the US screen fleet during WWII, and contender for the title of most significant in its category. As also possibly the fastest shipbuilder in the world. Yes, a legend remains. Perhaps… There is something else, aswell. A fragment of Federal, which has been drifting through the oceans, all the way to Korea, before finally returning home, beaching itself upstream of a Louisiana river, for all to be seen, forever. Yes, I finally remembered the ship I had forgotten previously. As of the writing of this article, there are four Fletcher-class destroyers preserved in the world - three in the United states, and one in Greece. Only a single one of them, however, retains her WWII layout, and that baby, the last Fletcher of 1945 in existence, is the USS Kidd - indeed, a Federal girl. USS Kidd, one of the 4 preserved museum/memorial Fletcher class in the world … (FOR COMPLETION’S SAKE, there’s also the Federal-built DE USS McAnn, which is preserved somewhere in Brazil. Maybe there are some others I missed, who knows.) Anyway. I just kind of felt like talking about important builders of WWII warships and like Federal a lot, so, yeah. Hoipe you enjoyed it and learnt a thing or two ! Butterfly flies away~
  9. LastButterfly

    Favorite shipgirl (Kancolle,Azur lane, Arpeggio of blue steel,Haifuri)

    (thanks. Don't worry I'm fine) Sad butterfly noises, but also, understandable. Since I don't play any f2p gacha I probably can't give a relevant answer. The only think I can say that feels relevant is about the reason I stopped playing WoWs (yeaaaaars ago) : not because I disliked the game - which I had been for a while at the time already - but because I started to realize that the game made me associate warships with negative feelings and I kinda love them so I really, really didn't want a stupid game full of stupid decisions to taint that love in any way. Other than that, I have to agree with Pany- taking a step back for a while can help immensely, especially since f2p gachas are typically designed not to let you ever breath away from them (I haven't played AL so it could be different, but usually, it's not). Anything else is fine. You don't have to fill spreadsheets with data like me (although you can - I am recruiting ! I still have way too many other countries to do, and I've skipped over all submarines. You'd be paid with the satisfaction of seeing a well filled database). It doesn't have to be another game, even : on the side, I've personally been, like, writing (don't laugh, I'm writing my own original shipgirl thing. Or trying to) and also I've been doing some math research (okay, perhaps I do have a problem, but you get my point). In a few words, anything different, even if short-lived can do. Just following one's interests without thinking too hard about it and seeing where you land helps breath and see everything in more calm way. Then again, I really am a butterfly at heart, so maybe somebody who isn't afflicted by an attention deficit oooh shiny would not get relaxed by casually being carried by the wind and landing on every flower on the path. Sadly, I can't provide much advice for anybody who wouldn't work that way, 'cause that's outside my area of expertise... Sorry.
  10. LastButterfly

    Favorite shipgirl (Kancolle,Azur lane, Arpeggio of blue steel,Haifuri)

    I can talk your ears off about the scottish british shipbuilding industry in the late 19th and half 20th century if you want, to distract you. I have recently reported in a spreadsheet every destroyer, modern light & heavy cruiser, carriers of all sizes and post-dreadnought battleships, plus the Hunts for good measure, that the RN operated from their respective invention all the way to roughly 1950 and associated them with their specific builder, so lord knows how many hours I'd be able to speak... I have done that with the USA too, if you prefer, but I'm still trying to divide Bethlehem in their several yards to find when they acquired each and from whom.
  11. LastButterfly

    Favorite shipgirl (Kancolle,Azur lane, Arpeggio of blue steel,Haifuri)

    Oh boi. Impero is that kind of subject. The ones which lead me to websites that are written entirely in Slovene. I could probably give you more info if I could buy the book (it's available on google ebooks I think) sadly this isn't the kind of thing I can afford out the blues... What I can tell you is that the main knowledge we have of such a conversion come from the personal archives of Lino Campagnoli, a naval architect who worked for Ansaldo during WWII - in fact, it would be the recently-made possible access to his archives that sparked the writing of the book. Stephano Sappino, one of the author, has contirbuted notably through the reproduction of these drawings : This is not your usual carrier conversion of WWII. However, there's an additional interesting thing to note. There's this little model of an aircraft carrier, crude and undetailed, sitting at the Museum of Naval History of Venice. It has long been believed that it was one of the study model for Aquila, but recent expertise showed that it's probably one of the preliminary studies for the conversion of Impero. And this little baby is MUCH closer to what you'd expect of a carrier design of the time. Despite the two designs looking nothing alike, it's still likely they were drawn within the same timeframe. However, due to their striking differences and the fact that the first one is... very experimental for the time, it's unlikely either were a serious consideration. More likely, naval architects were asked to work on the theorical conversion of Impero into a carrier "you know, just in case". So in short, was Impero historically studied for a carrier conversion ? Extremely likely, yes. Was she planned for a carrier conversion ? Probably not. But these are my two cents, and I guess the book would give you many more details if you want. From experience, Stefano Sappino is a very credible and skilled naval historian ; I have used his old blog a number of time to learn about obscure designs. It's unrelated, but I have heared rumors that he died a couple years ago, so i'm kinda afraid his blog will someday disappear and thus I've been saving some of its articles left and right. I can browse if you're ever looking for something... Butterfly flies away~
  12. LastButterfly

    (Sondage) WOWS et personnalités

    Ouais, bah des deux qui sont égalité, celui qui me correspond le plus, c'est le troisième. Va savoir~
  13. LastButterfly

    (Sondage) WOWS et personnalités

    Yaaaaaay, j'suis égalité entre deux types comme à CHAQUE fois que je fait un test de ce genre -.- Du coup bah jpeux pas répondre au sondage vu qu'on peut selectionner qu'un résultat. Ouais, sans blague, la première fois que j'ai passé Myers-Bryggs j'étais PILE à 50% entre INTP et INFP. Par contre Le I j'lavais à >95%. On fait pas dans la demi-mesure ici. Le pire c'est que je suis parfaitement conscient que dans un autre état d'esprit le type 5 aurait probablement pu rattraper les deux autres puisque c'est celui auquel je m'identifie le plus et les plus proche de mon résultat "classique" à ce genre de chose. Enfin à 1% d'écart, mais classique quand même.
  14. LastButterfly

    Bonjour tout le monde. Quelques questions !

    Limite ça me manque un peu j't'avoue. Mais juste un peu.
  15. LastButterfly

    Contre-torpilleur classe Jaguar

    C'est faux. Fischer est passé par là avant, l'honneur revient a Swift. S113 aussi est antérieur à Jaguar.